:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Fuck off faggot :1orglaugh

Phoenix is waiting for you. he wants you to jerk off his cock while reading conspiracy sites. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

yeah i don't know anymore i just read up on it. the pentagon is 77ft tall so that camera angle is obviously very decieving. in scale from the video the plane could be 25 ft tall no problem so it very well could be a 757. and the video just has a bad angle.

9-11 was a good way for Bush to get into Iraq thats all there is to it

you make my balls itch...im going to go do some work

but just so you know...you are a pussy

insanity is something you should look up...i mean refusing to see what is on front of your face must be close to the definition

keep holding your blankie and keep your head in the sand

no need for you to worry you are dutch

The difference between you and Phoenix is that he has a BRAIN, son you are running on empty:321GFY

do yourself a favor : Shut the fuck up ... you will look smarter....

In London subway, they had the pictures of the " terrorists" down to the lettering on their tshirts...

In Boston, on 9-11, they have numerous pictures of the " terrorists " .
In Cops on Fox, they always have the footage of the crime, from an ATM camera, or street camera, or store camera ... They ALWAYS do ...

But , for the Pentagon, one of the most if not the most important building in the USA , they have what : 5 fucking frames that took 4 years to release ....

As the Donald says:

" All back to the boardroom, someone will be fired "

:2 cents:

IF a 757 doesn't have enough "lift" to stay off the ground by ten feet obviously you havent flown in a plane the plane can stay 10 feet off the ground for a few minutes before touching down depending on the angle it comes in at... explain to ne how a missle shot at ground level has enough "lift" to stay 10 feet off the ground from where its fired from???

and into your homes ...

Let's assume that white thing in the video that looks about ten feet long and a foot wide is actually a commercial airliner.

How does a pilot, with 50 years experience or one month's experience manage to fly it perfectly parallel to the ground, five foot above the ground, while travelling at several hundred miles an hour without hitting anything else on the way in?

If it was a terrorist flying a plane why didn't it fly in at a high angle and hit somewhere in the middle of the building?

http://keyholepublishing.com/pentagon-hole.jpg

Look everybody.

This was the biggest part of Phoenix his conspiracy. A hole in the OTHER side of building caused by the landing gear. But he found it on some nutjob site and it claimed that was the hole where the plane entered. And ofcourse its way too small for that. Ofcourse the retard that he is he immediatly believed it, despite the fact that the wall is totally different than the front side of the Pentagon.

So ofcourse he was proven wrong but that doesnt stop him. He made a total fool of himself by screaming and yelling that was the hole of impact. Still he goes on and on. Tomorrow some 16 yr old kid makes a website claiming something else and as long as it has conspiracy in the title Phoenix will believe it. No matter how retarded it may sound :1orglaugh

Sorry Phoenix, i didnt want to bring the hole thing up again because it makes you look even more stupid but i want to show people who were dealing with here.

here is a clear pic of the plane for franck

look cloesly

http://luan.blogspot.com/uploaded_im...eye-739557.gif

I don't know who the hell thinks that idiot was behind 9-11.

He just happened to be the ass that was president when this shit went down.
Did he play a role as the useless, we are under attack and you should be very afraid puppet? Maybe

Can you believe that there are 100's of sites based on that pic. A pic from the OTHER side of wall/building. And 100's of sites making up huge stories based on that pic claiming its a missile hole :1orglaugh

Conpiracy idiots have to be some of dumbest people on the internet.

Here are some people on the take:



http://eric.bart.free.fr/iwpb/witness.html

lol

I don't know how to fly a plane ... But if I wanted to cause damage to the Pentagon, I would have stayed straight & steady till I am to be OVER it, then nose dive in it....

This low flying shit is stupid on his part, because a slight movement and he digs the soil instead of the building ...

But I am not a pilot, he was .... :winkwink:

well..

If I was a pilot I wouldn't fly the plane into a building

but thats just me

Phoenix just said there was only ONE witness and he had a heart attack. :1orglaugh

Now there are suddenly dozens of witnesses?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

watch this video, http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...q=loose+change

check out this video it's been around for a while but they make a lot of valid points and the footage the government are claiming that was being held because it was evidence in the mosaui cause is bullshit it's been on the web forever now...

I think you have to put speed into perspective here. If you've ever seen a really nasty car crash, where the car was going super fast, there's not much left as a single structure.

Now you figure a fully fueled jet going full speed at over 500 MPH.

Do the physics. The energy of that mass at that velocity going into a heavily reinforced structure like the Pentagon will completely disintegrate quite compactly.

i'm not buying it.

Is it supposed to be a fish or a shark?

watch teh video it'll answer some of your questions

looks like a shark to me...but you cant see very clearly

look at the angle of attack... its clear that is coming in very flat... proof is in the way the smoke rises up.

obviously the plane is going wayyyy beyond its maximum indicated airspeed to avoid being seen on every camera. The max i can get a 757 up to in flight simulator is ~750 knots/hour and thats nose diving from 48,000 (service ceiling) feet, directly down with full power on.

The plane would need to be travelling much faster than this speed to avoid the camera snapshot delay.

Even then... at that speed there is wreckage.
Frank.. I want to see some of these "pics all over the net" of it :)

Discovery has a nice docu on it. They made a 3d computer animation of the crash and it very clearly shows how a plane indeed almost completely disintegrates hitting a building like the Pentagon.

Not to mention that on the same day two other planes happen to crash into some buildings too


:winkwink:

I was expecting more from such a big plane too.

yes...he will show you some pics of some wreckage

trouble is the maker of the plane and th amker of th engine etc etc..all say that the parts shown were most certainly not from a boeing 757

close but no cigar

i'm not buying it.

If you blow it up 2x you can see it better, still can't tell though.

i dont disbelieve this.

i doubt very much that a plane hitting a cement building would survive at all

im just saying it wasnt a plane...it was something else..designed to elicit a certain response from the people..it worked like a charm

thats a freaky photo

Phoenix, were do all the eye witnesses suddenly come from? I thought there was only 1 :1orglaugh

It's a chop, there are many of them.

This is the aircrafts registration number: N644AA

Do your own searches and see what you find :disgust

Hahah yes, a rocket...but they painted it so nobody would recognize it.

A rocket that traveled a few miles a few feet off the ground :1orglaugh

With the number of people believing this is a conspiracy you would think the gov would do everything in its power to PROVE to the public this was "really" a plane hitting the pentagon.

Afterall, if it's for real - what is there to hide?

I could not tell anything from either video.. what's so new about "new" video from last night

Where is the video from the hotel across the street?!!

can you tell me franck how did this 4 frame footage affected the trial of Zaharia terrorist so not to be released the next day of the attack?

Fuck some people are fucking idiots. It'd be much simpler for the G'vment to just hire some nuts to fly the actual airplane into the building than to hatch a plan to paint a fucking missle. Why would they even take a chance? If you came up with a plan "let's paint a missle to look like a plane, fly it into the Pentagon, tell everyone it's a US flight, make that plane go missing, come up with an expaination for a whole lot of dead people"

Yea sure.

and for the record a missile can stay 10feet from the ground for whole miles. You select the distance you shoot it and doesnt have to be a large one. While in army I participated to exercises with apache helicopters shooting to both static and movable targets.


possible, and its not the govt doing such act,is a group of ppl with enough authority.


Do you recall the media reporting THAT day? It was all about WTC and no reports about what happened on pentagon, almost no video footage while there were 100s of dead people and a very serious attack too.

You could easily tell there was no attack at all.

The flow of info is controlable.

Nothing is necessarily fake, but you are stupid to believe your life is that important not to be consumed in a WTC event or a pentagon attack to play a role into some ppl's game.

Actually I remember lots of coverage from the Pentagon attack. Plus they were pretty freaked out waiting for the Capital and White House to get hit.


Here's a good link
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1

And here's a good discussion of the "loose change" mess
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=53102

thanks for the links

damn,that's 101 pages thread

Plain and simple, whatever it is that hit the Pentagon, doesn't look big enough to be a 757.

i think their was a plane flying into the pentagon. but was it foreign terrorists or terrorists from within like a bunch of arms dealers who needed a new war to sell more weapons.
that's is a different question.

i don't think bush should have needed to have a 9/11 happened to be able to go into Iraq or now into Iran.

as the president he should be able to go to war anywhere at any time for any reason.

the people put him in charge and that's it.. it should not be a freaking poll every time a president wants to do something.

lets put this event in perspective

Car accidents kill an estimated 1.2 million people worldwide each year.

Authorities say 2752 people died at the World Trade Center

why are we still arguing 5 years later?

I'm with you. For those that claim we're all fools by believing whatever the gov't tells us are really calling the kettle black: You all believe whatever a totally non-credible video tells you. The Loose Change video is the one that manipulates the truth and if you all did your homework you'd see just how much b.s. it is.

Besides, what exactly did the "government tell you"? It was all there on live tv.

:eek2

Police of the world : FUCK YA !

i guess just about anything that looks like a grey fuzzy rectangle is now considerd a boeing 757

I'm convinced...now if we could just find those wmd's...i hear they look like a blue fuzzy circular thing