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Old 05-13-2006, 09:39 PM   #1
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Does this seem Just to you? (law)

JimTheFiend's thread reminded me of this...

Two years ago my house got broken into while I was there. Long story, but basically these two big guys broke down my door and smashed my face in with hammers and beat the hell out of me. This was no fight. They completely beat me to a bloody, crawling pulp using hammers on my face and chest. I couldn't see or walk for about an hour, and had trouble seeing, talking and eating for about a week afterwards.

They get charged with Simple Assault.
I would think it would be Assualt with a Deadly Weapon (?) or something a bit more severe, but no.

Does this seem Just to you?
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Old 05-13-2006, 11:20 PM   #2
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Old 05-13-2006, 11:26 PM   #3
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Sorry to hear that, that sucks.

In what city did this happen?
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Old 05-14-2006, 02:06 AM   #4
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hitting you in the face with a hammer they should be charged with attempted murder.
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lol is this real or a fictional situation , i cant see how a hammer wouldnt be assault with a weapon or even deadly weapon
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Old 05-14-2006, 03:48 AM   #6
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what a bunch of fucking arseholes! hammers! deffinatly attempted murder!

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Old 05-14-2006, 03:54 AM   #7
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lol is this real or a fictional situation , i cant see how a hammer wouldnt be assault with a weapon or even deadly weapon
It is in every state in the Union. Basically any object other than ones hands is considered to be a weapon.
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if any foriegn object is used in an assult with the purpose of creating major injury or harm it can go from either falonious assult to attempted murder but the attempted murder would be hard to prove... simple assult No.. you can use anything if I stabbed you with a pencil that

I had a girl tell the police that I hit her with one of those metal rebar things that go into the street and they charged me with " felonious assult with attempt to harm" which got dropped..
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if any foriegn object is used in an assult with the purpose of creating major injury or harm it can go from either falonious assult to attempted murder but the attempted murder would be hard to prove... simple assult No.. you can use anything if I stabbed you with a pencil that

I had a girl tell the police that I hit her with one of those metal rebar things that go into the street and they charged me with " felonious assult with attempt to harm" which got dropped..
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I agree that's pretty fucked, so basically they got like 12 month probabation for breaking into your place, and beating the shit out of you?
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wow your attorny sucks.
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wow your attorny sucks.
I didn't know that his attorney would be the one who decides what crime to charge the assailants with.
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Old 05-14-2006, 08:28 AM   #13
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should be of been attempted murder even...
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Old 05-14-2006, 09:56 AM   #14
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why did they do that?
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Wait so they got caught, went to court, and you probably have access to thier addresses?

Why are they still alive?
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I didn't know that his attorney would be the one who decides what crime to charge the assailants with.
the attorny can press for a harder case against them. who decides at first? ok the cops

I honestly don't know but common sense would say that a judge could chagne things.
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its the d.a. who decides what charges to lay , the police may submit a number of charges and the d.a. may only move on some of them..

There could be other factors at play, maybe they lost the hammer in evidence or fucked up the paperwork and figured if we get him to plead to a lesser charge he wont get off scot free
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Sorry to hear that, that sucks.

In what city did this happen?
This was in the suburbs of Philadelphia. It was a nice community.

And no Smokey this is not made up.
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wow your attorny sucks.
I kick my ass when I think back to it, because I didn't get a lawyer or press charges or anything. At the time I was in pretty bad shape financially but still.
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Wait so they got caught, went to court, and you probably have access to thier addresses?

Why are they still alive?
Yes I know where they live.

I didn't go there because
a) I don't want to get the shit kicked out of me again.
b) I do not feel like getting in trouble with the law.

I'm a fat computer nerd. I'm not a tough guy, and I don't claim to be.
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ah, I remember the story... guess you posted it here before?!? fucking assholes should get their asses teared up!
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Yes I know where they live.

I didn't go there because
a) I don't want to get the shit kicked out of me again.
b) I do not feel like getting in trouble with the law.

I'm a fat computer nerd. I'm not a tough guy, and I don't claim to be.
That doesnt stop you from "hiring" someone.
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OMG, thats horrible. Not fair at all.
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if there's medical records to prove injuries, and the weapons were recovered, then it should've been a bigger charge. unless they decided to plead guilty to a lesser offense.
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