100..........

so, just so my notes are correct here

it is all right to insult and treat the little webmasters like nothing, because they bitched first?

LOL

I think a lot of people are bitching about the TREATMENT they got when complaining ... and you are just perpetuating that. Telling affiliates they don't matter is just silly -- it makes no difference who it's coming from or what the circumstances are.

I'm not surprised you don't send many sales -- you have a "small time" mentality.

I wish you the best, though .. not trying to pick a fight.

Yep, it's in the GFY FAQ.

LOL - thats so how I talk when I have had a few - I'm glad at least you can understand me Air3k :winkwink:

you know i can brotha londoner-----contact me and lets do some damage insted fo fucking with dumb shit!

:)

That is deep. Did you just make that up?

I wish! I tell many of my clients that, as we begin consulting relationships. After I got back from the whirlwind that was Silicon Valley 1997-2001, I became a firm believer in making sure the ship had the right course BEFORE we set sail. I get seasick trying to read the map out on the ocean.

A couple days late here. I have a feeling a job was on the line, and this post was a demand from above. It will take far more than this simple post to correct all the wrong and mud slinging you've caused the past few days.

Very well put.

I think many ppl are missing the point here. It's not a problem he is often away to shows etc. What is wrong, is the fact he ignored the posts on GFY, and said something like: Juicy blabla(so he DID read them). Then he started a thread with fuck the haters, and laughted at people with 1 join....

That is wrong....

You hit the nail on the head.

I don't even have skin in the game, and it pisses me off.

Fair enough BUT at the same time - we as affiliates have concerns and they were met with idiotic remarks.

IMO that's not 'classy' that's just plain dumb. I hope they are able to create a new program that removes traffic leaks and answers affilate questions rather than disrespect affiliates...:thumbsup

fleshlight is a good program they just need to work some kinks out...I have tried most sponsers and fleshlight makes me more money than 95% of others so if they ever get things worked out they will be one of the best if not the best program of its kind. some people are just haters

EXACTLY!

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

first usefull post in this thread......

So he replies and never comes back to his thread, Still did piss off a bnch of smaler webmasters Ramos, I dont care if they send 1 sale a month or 100 Sales a month you should give each and every affilaite the time of day and get them what they need.

For the record i only give handjobs to myself!!!!!!!!!:mad:

words out now Juicy - we all know about your new affiliate program

www.juicyshandjobs.com

For $29.95 a month Juicy will give you one handjob a month :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

juicy, im a lurker - but if you wanted to, for example.. start your own fleshlight knockoff, and start your own affiliate program.. you'd do very, very well.

your post the other day about the state of your relationship with the fleshlight program seemed genuine. i can put you in touch with some people who can help you with low-volume manufacturing, financing, and such.

Deal. Hit me on ICQ with the join link.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

:glugglug

:1orglaugh

well, you suck, go away

for all we know you are just a sufer

post your sites

I actually tried to join the fleshlight affiliate program today.

But the link to join is a dead end.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh Yeah, but ya let Ramos have sloppy seconds on your FleshLight!

Now that I think about about it... ahhmmmm

Wonder how many guys share a fleshlight. Has there ever been a fleshlight gangbang party?

For the record, I have more than one FL sale.

All this drama and other bullshit in the end will only make things better for the affiliates large and small!

Or for all we know he has the potential to send 30 joins a day. But since we don't really know who he is, we'll treat him like absolute shit because he brought up a few good questions that don't have a "good" answer. Is that what you're saying? That's what it sounds like.

Thats what it comes down to. They are redoing the program to help out the affiliates. All the questions they have should be answered simply by that. It is being redone. Please bare with us while we work through the changes. That should be the end of it. :thumbsup

No if he was only bringing up questions we would not question him. It was the attacking manner, and what seemed like going after Ramos personally.

:1orglaugh

And all of the other people asking the same questions are what? Idiots, too?

:1orglaugh

fleshlight madness!

:glugglug

Thats an understatement, he so far up Ramos ass you can barely see his fucking feet :1orglaugh

snicker!

That was the only one that was being asked about whether they have a website. He is the one that started a thread about it also. All the time attacking Ramos. Seemed more interested in starting drama than trying to get to how the problem is being attended to. :2 cents:

I dont need anything from Ramos. Im not brown nosing Im stating exactly what is going on. Take it for what it is. Im passing on what I know about the situation, and giving my take on it. But I guess its much better to jump in the water with the chum and the rest of the sharks.

Let me guess though you will call the ones sticking up for Ramos sheep now. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :error :error

http://dunamai.com/Humor/BagdadBob/i..._bob_large.gif

yeah, thats pretty accurate given the circumstances.

Hey listen Im sure you know more about it. After all you read the threads. Ive only talked directly with Ramos face to face about it for about 45 minutes. *Shrugs*

what a bunch of whiners. nothing that ramos said or did was even close to what half you thin-skinned bastards say every day, whether in a biz thread or on personal time.

if you focused on your biz as much as you focus on arguing and mud-slinging you could hire someone to talk shit on the boards all day :)

Not a good idea as Fleshlight has a patent :2 cents:

That is a pretty assanine comment. Last I checked we are in this industry so we do not have to work 9-5 and wear suits and live the corporate life. Partied with him or anyone else last I checked that is what most people do at the shows. Fleshlight of adult.com I have never had a problem getting Ramos to get things done for me so far. Regarding him not answering all the posts maybe he should have but before you know it, it wasn't a business thread it was a personal attack because Ramos seems to like to party and have a good time. Good for him if that is what he chooses. I never heard any complaints when he was with adult.com. He got a position to be the front man on a very successful product line. So give the guy a break and chance to show what is can do. And I can only ASSUME he will need more then 2 week. So keep on keeing on Ramos I am sure fleshlight will only get better and better.:2 cents:

If they enforce their patents with the same vigor they support affiliates, I don't think there's a lot to worry about.

I agree with Jon ... Give the guy a chance ... I think things got blown way out and he's just laying low while they workout a few things. for all we know he's helping and talking to everyone on ICQ. Just because he's not addressing the individual issues on GFY doesn't mean he's not.

And just for the record I think I've bought him more drinks over the last year ..:winkwink:

You must have I make him pay for everything!:1orglaugh :pimp