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 I have been reading GFY for 2 years now, I just didn't feel the need to sign up until recently...sorry if my post count or join date isn't up to your standards you can be suspicious all you want, but frankly I could care less, you don't work for fleshlight and obviously you have some alterior motives...maybe because ramos bought you a drink once or high fived you a few weeks ago | 
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 And GFY isn't a webmaster board. There are like 3 adult webmasters here -- and they're all sucking on the same tit. The rest of us are just faking it. We have no sites. | 
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 The other problem I have with your description of the situation is that you talk about "bugs" when the complaints are about such things as traffic leaks and poor stats. Bugs are errors no-one intended: someone actually designed Fleshlight to be as it is in respect of the things most people are writing about. Oh. How exactly does your "working night and day..." statement jibe with comments from others, such as those saying they contacted Fleshlight long ago about the traffic leaks and were specifically told they were staying as is. | 
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 The ENTIRE program is being redone. It was never setup from the begining to handle a super large affiliate program. If you know about oscommerce (and I know some others on there know what I am talking about) the affiliate setups that were out there to work with osc were barely passable. They did the job, but very poorly. Does anyone here REALLY want them to A. Totally shut down the whole affiliate program while they retool, or B. Waste valuable programmer time on fixing a program that is going to be scrapped in the very near future? C. what I mean? :winkwink: Lots of people have made, lots of money for years on this program. Its frankly just having severe growing pains, and its time to start over. End of story. Give Ramos some time to get the things that need done done. Im sure alot of you would prefer he just monitor the boards 24/7 and answer the same questions you ask over and over and over again. :1orglaugh | 
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 Wow you must really be hitting your fleshlight hard ;) :pimp :1orglaugh :upsidedow There is no need for mud-slinging in this thread by anyone regardless of the reason. If you have a genuine concern with fleshlight you would hit ramos up directly. Every program has growing pains at some stage and I'm sure that any issues will be ironed out and fleshlight will contine selling like hotcakes. pimp on! | 
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