What the... How did I not hear about the offices being here in Austin? If you need any help with this Ramos, by all means let me know.

Good luck, but the mistakes of the past die hard in my mind -- which is why I haven't promoted you.

I'm interested to see if you turn things around now -- I'll keep my eyes open.

whatever yo, i miss the old ramos

No offense since I dont know you, but you signed up this month and start attacking someone you dont know, about an issue you are even less informed about. To me that reaks of suspicion, and I would guess there is and alternate reason for the haterade attitude you have been giving off.

I have to catch my plane so Ill check back on these threads later. I can however ASSURE YOU that having talked to Ramos extensively about everything they are on top of this, and they are redoing the whole program from scratch. The previous system used oscommerce as a backend, and I can tell you I know all about that nightmare. The new system will be much more streamlined and suited to both sales, and affiliates. The oscommerce affiliate system is more of an add on then it is intergrated to do what it does. I love drama as much as everyone else, but all of this is totally undeserved. He has only been in his position a few short weeks. Give him time to get the new system launched before bitching.

If the system is so sub-par and it still needs so much work, why continue marketing it so hard? That makes no sense. Market a non-working product to people (affiliates) and they're going to be pissed, rightfully so.

A relaunch would be a damned good idea - FleshLight2 - chuck in a few comps and a GFY skin and it all starts to look a lot healthier.

Is Fleshlight getting fucked? Literally?

Ramos, I know that your happy-go-lucky attitude on GFY is what made you so popular (aside from your good ole' boy moderator attitude when regarding threads attacking your boys) but now you are a rep for a company, a young company and your asshat attitude has really stirred the pot. When concerned affiliated started threads as their last resort you replied with bullshit comments that made them into jokes. These were/are legitimate concerns but you still approached them with the same mentality as when you were a MOD on GFY and with Adult.com. You joked, made a fucked up comment and thought the roar of laughter would drown out the problems. Life doesn't work that way my friend.

I do applaud you for this thread but my friend, I think its a day late and a dollar short. You could and should have addressed all of the issues in a professional manner in the first place rather than turning it all into one big joke. Once again, you have to know what is appropriate for your position (the term "Know your Role" comes to mind) and when you were with Adult.com your jovial attitude was admired by many. Now you're coming off as a clown dangling from your spiderweb thin shred of credibility. It's not looking good for you or for Fleshlight. For what it's worth, they should cut their losses and understand that they fucked up by bringing you on board. I have never seen one single person give a company such a bad rep in such a short amount of time since Lee Iacocca.

Good luck trying to get your credibility back but you have to understand that now you're fighting an uphill battle. Credibility is the hardest thing to earn but the easiest to lose. :2 cents:

Its not currently open to new signups. The marketing doesnt stop just because they are redoing the program. Plane was delayed by 20 mins or so so had time to make a few more posts. :winkwink:

I beg to differ. One of the most destructive things for a company is poor planning and this entire ordeal has poor planning written all over it. :2 cents:

Why market and promote the fuck out of something if it doesn't work? That's like spending $10,000 for a local cable television commercial to sell your Le Car that's on block in your front yard worth $50 in scrap metal.

No one plans to fail -- they just fail to plan.

50.........

you know what: you are 100% right. But look at the replies of the average GFY assclown in this thread: they dont give a fuck.. ramos is top notch fun guy etc.. there are no business ethics in this industry.

the boss must have a whip on his bare back...

signed up this month? I have been a fleshlight affiliate for a few months now, sending constant traffic

I have been reading GFY for 2 years now, I just didn't feel the need to sign up until recently...sorry if my post count or join date isn't up to your standards

you can be suspicious all you want, but frankly I could care less, you don't work for fleshlight and obviously you have some alterior motives...maybe because ramos bought you a drink once or high fived you a few weeks ago

whats your site?

Best quote I've heard in a while!

what does that have to do with anything?

what, you aren't going to believe that I have sites if I don't tell you one?

That's the idea, yeah.

no, not really

Wise not to post site URLs right now dial.

Posting them would be fine if you could be sure you wouldn't be attacked or hacked or whatever.

Rant on, it's not like Ramos didn't step in it.

I'm still sticking with the program and hope to grow income from it. Wanna see where it goes from here.

are you implying that the only reason to see his site would be to hack it?

its a valid question, no one knows who this guy is or if he is legit.

I wouldn't post anything anyway, most of the work I do is seo and I don't like a lot of my info to get out ;)

what does it matter if I am "real" or not? are my concerns not valid because you don't think I am legit?

jesus, this place gets more ignorant by the day

Congratulations, you win a cigar :1orglaugh

For 281 posts...
You are the ignorant one:)

You should know that if you haven't partied with everyone then you don't really exist.

It doesn't matter if he is legit or not. He is making valid points. Why would he post a surfer site on a webmaster forum?

Actually, I'm pretty sure most people by now know he isn't.

"Oh, don't steal my SEO secrets! I'm an SEO hax0r! Bl4ck h4t 4 lyf3!"

:1orglaugh

In all honestly I do not think FLashlight is a scam.

From what I understand folks are paid and have been paid the earning.
Maybe I am wrong?

I can just tell that the outfit is not a scam on the user's of the product nor a scam on webmaster's. Clearly they are trying and growing.

Try it -- you get signups. It's funny!

And GFY isn't a webmaster board. There are like 3 adult webmasters here -- and they're all sucking on the same tit. The rest of us are just faking it. We have no sites.

What do you mean by a "young affiliate program"? Unless my recall is badly off, Fleshlight had an invite-only affiliate program for at least 2 or 3 years before it was (briefly) opened to all comers.

The other problem I have with your description of the situation is that you talk about "bugs" when the complaints are about such things as traffic leaks and poor stats. Bugs are errors no-one intended: someone actually designed Fleshlight to be as it is in respect of the things most people are writing about.

Oh. How exactly does your "working night and day..." statement jibe with comments from others, such as those saying they contacted Fleshlight long ago about the traffic leaks and were specifically told they were staying as is.

I think the point of posting a surfer site on a webmaster board is to create brand awareness. How could webmasters be expected to promote or care about a product that they have never heard of.

New product lines should always be put before the marketing department before they go out the door to the general public and essentially the webmasters of GFY are the biggest marketing department for online adult products.

Ramos is totally stand up and I don't think he meant any offense to anyone. Sometimes message boards are not the best medium for concise communications.

FL affiliates are watching and waiting ; )

and you are? and you're with???

/david spade

hahah....

why would ramos give you 2 thoughts if you all you do is piss on him and wont say who you are?

Ramos is the pimp, his star will shine again.

This is a valid statement. :2 cents:

good post... we wish you well