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SmokeyTheBear 05-12-2006 06:56 PM

ill explain how a normal person prob uses epassporte online

they log into their account , copy their visa number and cvv2 and go order something..

currently this requires STep#1 log in Step # 2 account info Step #3 go to email # step #4 check email Step#5 copy number step 6 go back to account area to get visa number etc

heres how it should be

Step#1 login , account number , balance , cvv2 and most recent transaction should be displayed.. no more steps required..

I dont need an email or a message center etc , if you need to inform me of something just make a "account alerts" box on the very first page.. that should only be used by you ..

seems like common sense to me. perhaps theres something im missing.

Capt. rold 05-12-2006 08:09 PM

Thanks for the head's up! :)

Damian_Maxcash 05-12-2006 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
I dont understand what your saying . im just saying it should be easy to access .. it hasnt been.. regardless of the means or method , its not easy , it should be.. thats all.

If the cvv2 number is going to be in the account anyways why make it hard to find, if someone "hacked" into my epassporte card , they would most likely just check my email for the cvv2 right ?

So why not just simplify it for the customers. by displaying the cvv2 right next to the visa number

Shit - we are dealing with idiot Smokey again.......

What a bore.

You have had a bug up your ass about Epass for months - spit it out - whats the problem?

minusonebit 05-12-2006 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
I dont understand what your saying . im just saying it should be easy to access .. it hasnt been.. regardless of the means or method , its not easy , it should be.. thats all.

If the cvv2 number is going to be in the account anyways why make it hard to find, if someone "hacked" into my epassporte card , they would most likely just check my email for the cvv2 right ?

So why not just simplify it for the customers. by displaying the cvv2 right next to the visa number

No, Smokey. That?s logical. You keep forgetting that ePassporte cannot be logical. If ePassporte were to do something logical, it wouldn?t be ePassporte anymore.

We are conditioned to accept that security is something that inconveniences us but we must accept it. This is no exception. ePassporte has come up with some great idea of theirs (just like eBay did with their stupid message center, although even they didn?t manage to make this bad of a mess with it) and so they say "Yeah, we'll tell them its for their security. No one will dare question that and anyone that does, why we can just write them off as unpatriotic, a conspiracy theorist or a moron. Everyone wants to be secure online, and they'll do anything we tell them if we lead them to believe they'll be more secure." EPassporte seems to have taken a play right out of The George W. Bush Screws America playbook, as this is exactly his SOP.

There are alot of people online who are scared shitless of the big, bad credit card and identity thieves because the media whips up this hysteria about them (while, of course, putting a few "special messages from the sponsor" in here and there) and people are clamoring for even a false sense of security. Most people don?t take responsibility for any aspect of their lives and how they safeguard their financial information is no exception. Most people don?t understand that if they get ripped off, 98% of the time its their fault. If people just did some common sense things to safeguard their information, these crooks would be out of business. That includes not giving out your social security number to everyone who asks for it.

Never mind the fact that we are not any more secure after we jump through the hoops than we were before. eBay thought their little message center was going to solve everything. It didn?t. PayPal accounts are still getting hijacked and people are still getting fucked over, usually because of something they did to themselves. What has happened is everyone's life has gotten more difficult and everyone had to change the way they did things to work around the limitations of the new system. This is also no exception, admittedly on a smaller scale than eBay.

So we look at this little message system. What are we gaining? A lot of headaches and a little false sense of security. Some of us cant get into the old e-mail system now, so that means if we wanted to use our virtual cards unless we recorded the information outside of the system, we're fucked until access is restored. If we don?t get back in before they shut off the old system completely, then what? Well, ePass is ignoring that question right now.

As has been pointed out, if someone roots out your account and wants your virtual card number, they are going to go to your message center to get it. Putting it there offers it no greater protection. The only thing it does is inconvenience a legitimate customer who wants to use his account to make a purchase.

Even if we do get back in, its still a pain because some people have alot of info in there that they have to fuck with. And all of this for what? I challenge anyone to prove how this messaging system will prevent any fraud that an ordinary account holder couldn?t have prevented on their own with the tools already available to them.

Webby 05-12-2006 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
Does Epassporte need to show porn sponsors on the site? I'm getting banners for IMLIVE.COM when logged in.

Sheesh!!! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

flashfire 05-12-2006 09:24 PM

for christ sake its been asked about 15 times!!!

WILL WE STILL GET PAYMENT EMAILS FORWARDED TO OUR EXTERNAL EMAIL ACCOUNT

fluffygrrl 05-12-2006 09:52 PM

ditto minusonebit. absolute bullshit.

facialfreak 05-12-2006 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp
its not an issue if you have a few emails to send...its a huge issue if you have 3 years of financial records within 1000's of emails..why not just archive the old data, so we can have access to it...why do they have to delete it...?

I concur!

I love epass, but since the paycom split the level of CS and professionalism has suffered .... and its a shame too! I had big hopes for epass to make it into the big leagues as a preypal alternative ... :Oh crap

Cash 05-12-2006 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze
The following countries can't send and receive p2p transfer.
Romania, Moldova, Vietnam, Pakistan, Russia, Ukraine and Lithuania.
They are still able to receive funds from business accounts, use the virtual visa and electron card.

Thanks for the reply, any chance for those countries in the future to being banned from receiving funds from business accounts as well (or using the virtual visa and electron card)?
Any chance that you will add more countries to that list in the future? :helpme

nekrom 05-13-2006 12:15 AM

Here's a question for Epassporte or Keyser Soze. Why do I have to look at bloody upsell porn banners in the new email/message centre?

-N

netter 05-13-2006 02:12 AM

thanks for the inform!

Vitasoy 05-13-2006 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martinsc
i just forwarded them all to my personal mailbox

I'm glad I did that aswell, since day one

digifan 05-13-2006 03:58 AM

So why can't you archive the old messages? Noone has answered it yet.

The Sultan Of Smut 05-13-2006 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze
Try logging in and changing your password, that should affect both your account and email.
If it doesn't work please contact me.

With the new system could you make sure to include an option to forward a copy of all new emails to another email address.

Thanks.

beta-tester 05-13-2006 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashfire
for christ sake its been asked about 15 times!!!

WILL WE STILL GET PAYMENT EMAILS FORWARDED TO OUR EXTERNAL EMAIL ACCOUNT

as far as I noticed, NO!

Michael O 05-13-2006 04:59 AM

We are working to see if we can find solution to both forward a message when a transfer is received and a solution to export the emails.
I don't know what the solutions will be so I can't say more about it, but I will post the information as soon as I know it.

georgeyw 05-13-2006 05:26 AM

gayness gayness gayness!!!!!!!!!!!

Why can't everything just be moved over to the newsystem? Why is it the customers duty to do this? Pisses me off as i've completely forgotten my password and cbf'd going thru the bs to make up a new one GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

topnotchxxx 05-13-2006 05:39 AM

Well, I wouldn't mind if it is like what the PM alert goes in the message boards, something to say that there is a post or a reply in the messaging center would be great. I could just log in and get the finer details.

Incidentally, I think it be nice if I could be able to filter monthly statements of the transactions from all the transactions from the beginning.

Mr. Igor 05-13-2006 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit
Did you have a balance in it?


ya 350 bucks

Brujah 05-13-2006 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze
We are working to see if we can find solution to both forward a message when a transfer is received and a solution to export the emails.
I don't know what the solutions will be so I can't say more about it, but I will post the information as soon as I know it.

Since you were able to move the 1st email over to the new system for everyone, can't you just move everything over? That would be great.

Can you turn off the porn banners for GIFT accounts, so that family members won't see the porn ads? That would be great.

Brujah 05-13-2006 10:15 AM

Ok, verified that the Old email system won't recognize my old or new password. I can't login yet to forward/archive my old emails. Can you synchronize this and update the email system to our current epassporte passwords?

Jarmusch 05-13-2006 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
Does Epassporte need to show porn sponsors on the site? I'm getting banners for IMLIVE.COM when logged in.

Maybe they're gonna stop charging the $0.25 to send money and the $5 for every $100 you load into your account. :Graucho

RogerV10 05-13-2006 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
shaliza , you should have the cvv2 number easily available in the account area.., i have never used the email for anything other than getting my cvv2 number and its always a hassle

Thank you Smokey. This is exactly why i also log in the email.

Alex 05-13-2006 11:43 AM

I just logged in and fowarded my email with the CV2 number to my external email account.

All went through.


Epass:
You should really make it easier on webmasters and try to elimate the load and p2p fees now that you display ads but more importantly make the cv2 number easily accessable.

Mr. Igor 05-14-2006 12:34 AM

so can you please unblock my account. I dont see any problem with it!!

Greg MissionD 05-14-2006 12:40 AM

I personally found that email box handy and use it to cross check some info in there.

chief99 06-28-2006 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze
The following countries can't send and receive p2p transfer.
Romania, Moldova, Vietnam, Pakistan, Russia, Ukraine and Lithuania.
They are still able to receive funds from business accounts, use the virtual visa and electron card.

What would getting a business account cost?

Michael O 06-28-2006 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief99
What would getting a business account cost?

The setup fee for a business account is $100


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