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adonis · 04-06-2006, 11:04 AM

Ibill exported all subscription information to Etelegate.com. It seems they re-enabled expired subscriptions, some are rebilled twice after re-enabling (with addition of $1.99 service fee). They charge $15 for a refund and $50 for a chargeback.

Your expired customers might be paying to Etelegate (under your mechant account, of course)

chadglni · 04-06-2006, 11:06 AM

Oh dear, here we go again.

Doctor Dre · 04-06-2006, 11:07 AM

Oh Christ. Just when I thought it was all gonna stop

iBanker · 04-06-2006, 11:07 AM

The title of this thread seemed redundant.

SilentKnight · 04-06-2006, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adonis

Ibill exported all subscription information to Etelegate.com. It seems they re-enabled expired subscriptions, some are rebilled twice after re-enabling (with addition of $1.99 service fee). They charge $15 for a refund and $50 for a chargeback.

Your expired customers might be paying to Etelegate (under your mechant account, of course)

Is there a word that adequately describes 'WAY BEYOND FUCKED UP!'?

So the moment these dead subscripts are re-activated and customers get their statements, they'll be hot on the phones for refunds and charging them back.

Just fucking lovely...

Amazing how they find new inventive ways of making things even worse on a daily basis.

adonis · 04-06-2006, 11:44 AM

It seems They probably didn't activate expired subscriptions. I thought so because admin screen says "Rebill cancelled..." and later "rebill re-enabled...". But there might have activated recently cancelled subscriptions. It's too complicated.

They show up as a new name in credit card statements, and $1.99 is added to fees, this will confuse current/previous customers.

Phoenix · 04-06-2006, 11:45 AM

why are people even looking at ibill at all

directfiesta · 04-06-2006, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix

why are people even looking at ibill at all

noty by choice ... but we still have rebills even after near 2 years of no new members ... my site is content rich, and a gig or more added ( not replaced ) every week.

But I think I should cancel all Ibill rebills now

John69 · 04-06-2006, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta

noty by choice ... but we still have rebills even after near 2 years of no new members ... my site is content rich, and a gig or more added ( not replaced ) every week.

But I think I should cancel all Ibill rebills now

i dont have many rebills left with them, i may just say fuck it.

DutchTeenCash · 04-06-2006, 01:22 PM

just pray everyones gonna chargeback and theyll loose their visa license

mazdaman · 04-06-2006, 01:59 PM

I laugh @ ibill

Xplicit · 04-06-2006, 02:11 PM

Wow its one thing after another with them.

Amazing how they manage to keep fucking over people TODAY, who havent done any new business with them for over a year.

chupachups · 04-06-2006, 02:34 PM

And, iirc, Etelegate are moving old IBill transactions to a sister company called "MatureBill"....

Xplicit · 04-06-2006, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chupachups

And, iirc, Etelegate are moving old IBill transactions to a sister company called "MatureBill"....

Yeah, theres a name married men want on their CC statement.

Christ.

Hunter_ST · 04-06-2006, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chupachups

And, iirc, Etelegate are moving old IBill transactions to a sister company called "MatureBill"....

Why not just go with PornBill?

Booger · 04-18-2006, 09:52 AM

Fuck Ibill...bump

precise · 04-19-2006, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adonis

Ibill exported all subscription information to Etelegate.com. It seems they re-enabled expired subscriptions, some are rebilled twice after re-enabling (with addition of $1.99 service fee). They charge $15 for a refund and $50 for a chargeback.

Your expired customers might be paying to Etelegate (under your mechant account, of course)

I noticed that Etelegate has terminated about 80% of ex-Ibill rebills, on the contrary.

Anyway, has anyone got the Apr. 15 payout from Ibill or Etelegate or whoever?

seeric · 04-19-2006, 07:52 AM

i wish i could say that i am surprised.

Manowar · 04-19-2006, 07:55 AM

ibill suck, bad

xclusive · 04-19-2006, 07:59 AM

Amazing how they always find a new way to fuck you

AdultWhosWho · 04-19-2006, 08:02 AM

bumpity bump

directfiesta · 04-19-2006, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by precise

I noticed that Etelegate has terminated about 80% of ex-Ibill rebills, on the contrary.

Anyway, has anyone got the Apr. 15 payout from Ibill or Etelegate or whoever?

no

http://www.ibillsucks.info

FUCKED_BY_IBILL · 04-19-2006, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adonis

Ibill exported all subscription information to Etelegate.com. It seems they re-enabled expired subscriptions, some are rebilled twice after re-enabling (with addition of $1.99 service fee). They charge $15 for a refund and $50 for a chargeback.

Your expired customers might be paying to Etelegate (under your mechant account, of course)

I had about 200 active rebills at IBILL, but since they moved it to Etelegate, I now have 450 active rebills. Whats more, it shows that I made over $100K with Etelegate since Jan 1. I only made about $7K with IBILL in that time period, thought they never paid me half of that. So where they fuck did they come up with the $100K figure? And how did my rebills doubled over night even tought I havent sent any new members in over a year? If Etelegate is not a part of IBILL, for sure they will sink with them real soon.

FUCK YOU IBILL, YOU LOW LIFES MOTHERFUCKERS

Webby · 04-19-2006, 04:04 PM

Don't take much guessing why your rebills just went up

There's a need for some cashflow and a "clerical error" is the excuse.

BTW.. Etelegate is controlled by "close friends" of iBill and IBD management. Can't confirm yet, but chances are they own the whole biz.

It's a kind of quarter-of-an-arm's length deal.

John69 · 04-19-2006, 04:26 PM

poor surfers.

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 04-19-2006, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix

why are people even looking at ibill at all

That what i keep asking, it would be like getting back with a wife that has been cheating on you.

nastymed · 04-19-2006, 05:40 PM

why no one is taking legal action against them
shouldn't you go to jail in the US for what they did over the past 3 years ?

Sophmaster · 04-19-2006, 07:09 PM

It's funny to see how we are all scared about 2257, releases, visa regulations and model ID's. We want to be in order with laws. But if you steal millions from webmasters and customers like Ibill ... it happen nothing at all !!! Is law in USA just a big joke ?

DEA - banned for life · 04-20-2006, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby

Don't take much guessing why your rebills just went up

There's a need for some cashflow and a "clerical error" is the excuse.

BTW.. Etelegate is controlled by "close friends" of iBill and IBD management. Can't confirm yet, but chances are they own the whole biz.

It's a kind of quarter-of-an-arm's length deal.

1/4 of an Arms length ? Try Holding hands ---> www.Etelegate.com Phone number:

1-800-676-0127 (direct: 213-291-9051)

"Hello you have reached IBILL SALES DEPARTMENT....Yadda...Yadaa..Yadda"

Booger · 05-05-2006, 10:53 AM

Fuck Ibill Smac Scam Scam

Bama · 05-05-2006, 11:11 AM

I don't run paysites - never have but from what I can ascertain - IBlows owes alot of webmasters money.

Do you think they're doing this so that customers DO chargeback so they can eat away (in chargeback fees) the money owed to the webmasters or am I just offbase in my thinking?

Fabien · 05-05-2006, 11:14 AM

Pouahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
en ben colisse de tabarnake

HEY IBULL FUCK YOU
DO YOU REALLY THINK I'LL PAY YOU IF DA SHIT HITS THE FAN

LIKE A BIG FUCK YOU ASSHOLES

Stie gang de fifs

darkwood · 05-05-2006, 11:25 AM

I dont speak French very well but that English hits home very well. Thank you

FUCKED_BY_IBILL · 05-05-2006, 12:15 PM

Lets forget the money we are owed by IBILL and now ETELEGATE. Its time we deny access to anyone who joined our site using the above. Just delete the IBILL .htaccess located on your server, and all the users who paid to get in thru IBILL and ETELEGATE will be asking for refunds and charge backs. This way, those assholes will lose their merchant accounts and get nothing, just like we are getting nothing. Do it today, I did. When my members tell me they cant login, I simply tell them to call their banks and get their money back since I didnt get it.

John69 · 05-08-2006, 01:03 PM

ibill blows

collegeboyslive · 05-08-2006, 01:18 PM

Quote:

i dont have many rebills left with them, i may just say fuck it.

Watch out !!! if they are charging $50 to YOU for a charge back if you say have 20 remaining rebills in a month at say $30 each thats: $600 however if say 15 of them chargeback ( - $750 ) all of a sudden this new compnay is instructing YOUR bank to PAY THEM $150 out of your account !! and dont say it cant happen cause direct debits run BOTH WAYS very easily.

You have been warned.

04-06-2006, 11:04 AM	#1
adonis Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 231	Former Ibill customers... Be careful. Ibill exported all subscription information to Etelegate.com. It seems they re-enabled expired subscriptions, some are rebilled twice after re-enabling (with addition of $1.99 service fee). They charge $15 for a refund and $50 for a chargeback. Your expired customers might be paying to Etelegate (under your mechant account, of course)

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04-06-2006, 11:44 AM	#6
adonis Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 231	It seems They probably didn't activate expired subscriptions. I thought so because admin screen says "Rebill cancelled..." and later "rebill re-enabled...". But there might have activated recently cancelled subscriptions. It's too complicated. They show up as a new name in credit card statements, and $1.99 is added to fees, this will confuse current/previous customers.

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05-05-2006, 11:11 AM	#31
Bama Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 2,727	I don't run paysites - never have but from what I can ascertain - IBlows owes alot of webmasters money. Do you think they're doing this so that customers DO chargeback so they can eat away (in chargeback fees) the money owed to the webmasters or am I just offbase in my thinking?

05-05-2006, 11:14 AM	#32
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05-05-2006, 12:15 PM	#34
FUCKED_BY_IBILL Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 30	Lets forget the money we are owed by IBILL and now ETELEGATE. Its time we deny access to anyone who joined our site using the above. Just delete the IBILL .htaccess located on your server, and all the users who paid to get in thru IBILL and ETELEGATE will be asking for refunds and charge backs. This way, those assholes will lose their merchant accounts and get nothing, just like we are getting nothing. Do it today, I did. When my members tell me they cant login, I simply tell them to call their banks and get their money back since I didnt get it.

05-08-2006, 01:03 PM	#35
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