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BadBoyBill4281 05-17-2002 12:55 AM

Quote:

anyone actually good enough to win isn't going to need it, so you'd soon know if a crappy design was beating killer ones that something was amiss.. it's about exposure and your art anyway.
Right on i feel the same but you still have the cheater in life :feels-hot i'm all game for having 3 people judge the designs the only thing about that is whos gonna step up to the plate that doesn't know someone on this board that everyone can trust????

Tylo 05-17-2002 12:57 AM

wait*

sorry need coffee

:eyecrazy

Tabster 05-17-2002 01:05 AM

Damn... I night of sleep = 1,5 hours of reading this thread... Hehe

But the competition is looking really really great... :)

AMP could you write me down for representing Cool-Content ?? :thumbsup

Tylo 05-17-2002 01:07 AM

AMP hook it up im representing AEOLN.com

:thumbsup

bhutocracy 05-17-2002 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BadBoyBill4281


Right on i feel the same but you still have the cheater in life :feels-hot i'm all game for having 3 people judge the designs the only thing about that is whos gonna step up to the plate that doesn't know someone on this board that everyone can trust????

amp had some good suggestions before on judges who were pretty impartial..
but as i said earlier i don't mind either way.. to have that many eyes go over my work is prize enough for me..

spanky 05-17-2002 01:22 AM

what the heck... can I get in on this too? somebody has to submit the worst site, might as well be me :)

cheers
spanky

SpyCam 05-17-2002 01:55 AM

well, part of you guys are probably waiting for me to participate too... i'm not such a frequent guest on GFY, i read it sometimes. so this is why i din't post here before....

You guys will probably have fun doing the demo tours, but not me, i have orders and customers are waiting for their sites designed... everything is about time - i have no time for that...

i don't count me as good designer or skilled one.... i just do what i do.... being an adult web site designer does not mean that i can do paysite designs or i do very good ones... but it counts only, when i'm able to sell my designs - i mean when i get somebody to pay me for designing - to do business

i like to design sites, but it's not fun for me - it's business
i'm not scarried or so to participate, i explained why already...

So i wish good luck for all the designers and if somebody needs my opinion on something - you know how to find me...

OH, and btw, if you would really like to make a fair competition, you should tell 1 domain name and the same sets of pics for all the members of this fun and see who has the best solution using the same shit as others - that's the most important thing.... would you vote impartial if you see 2 tours of the same level, but one contains good looking chick and other - gays (and you're not a gay site lover). hell no! so the models will make you decide which one you like the best.......

my pleasure

BadBoyBill4281 05-17-2002 02:03 AM

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OH, and btw, if you would really like to make a fair competition, you should tell 1 domain name and the same sets of pics for all the members of this fun and see who has the best solution using the same shit as others - that's the most important thing.... would you vote impartial if you see 2 tours of the same level, but one contains good looking chick and other - gays (and you're not a gay site lover). hell no! so the models will make you decide which one you like the best.......
spy has a very good point say you use candid content and someone likes them better then matrix but the design is what we are after NOT THE MODELS!!!!

so lets all make a choice here and now and say one set of content for all to use grab free content from all the BIG content providers and set a page up with it on it and call it a day and say you have to use this content to be in the thing everythign else goes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And last but not least GOOD LUCK TO ALL!!!!!

[Labret] 05-17-2002 02:06 AM

448 booyah

baremuffin 05-17-2002 02:28 AM

Dammit, I lost my login info and had to create another name... the big two posts I'd had originally were *such* a painful birth, I hate to lose them... haha

However, I'd like to enter this design thing, too. Am I supposed to do it this way still?
TeenGodFather
Hypo
Nina
Bhuto
Lickshots
redshift
amp
Sabai
va2k
Vegasdude
AdultWebGraphics
Fletch XXX
Tylo
XXXPaysiteDesign
Andrew@XPD
Brut
Tabster
MetaformX
GotGauge
alias
DamnFineOnline
Hyper
baremuffin/MinXxX

I've also got some new, exclusive feeds that are out of production (complete) but haven't actually begun being promoted yet that I'd like to donate 3 months access to as a lower-level prize...maybe like fourth, something like that. One minute RealPlayer clips, categorized and ripped for high-quality broadband streaming, and also to be a short, palatable download for modem users as well. Whoever is in charge of the prizes, please contact me and I'll get you the info... [email protected] or ICQ 37519122 or hell, even AIM if you must, look for baremuffin.

If anybody has any gothic content they'd be willing to trade for contest use only, please hit me up. I don't have any of that, and that's where my heart REALLY is :)

It's ok to donate a prize and enter, right? If not, I'll have the client I represent on the feeds be the actual 'prize sponsor'; we can probably throw in a dvd package as well.

I've read this whole thread and I'm really looking forward to seeing everybody's work. I see there's questions regarding the usage of Flash, and though I'm staying out of that one, I'd like to know what constitutes a 'weird' plug-in... some of my tours include vid content, and I guess I'd like to know if that's outright banned in this competition, or if it would be okay for a vid-based niche tour...

Also, finally, are there any limitations on categories? I understand lolita, kiddy, beastie, rape, etc. are common sense no-nos, but I was wondering if watersport, fisting, gothic, etc. are all valid choices.

If not, I'm sure I can go with something a little less... specialized :)

Thanks guys, this should be alot of fun... though looking at Amp's stuff has put the proverbial fear of designing God into my heart...

Take care,
Michelle

FATPad 05-17-2002 02:30 AM

450!

*double oink*

bhutocracy 05-17-2002 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by baremuffin
Dammit, I lost my login info and had to create another name... the big two posts I'd had originally were *such* a painful birth, I hate to lose them... haha

However, I'd like to enter this design thing, too. Am I supposed to do it this way still?
TeenGodFather
Hypo
Nina
Bhuto
Lickshots
redshift
amp
Sabai
va2k
Vegasdude
AdultWebGraphics
Fletch XXX
Tylo
XXXPaysiteDesign
Andrew@XPD
Brut
Tabster
MetaformX
GotGauge
alias
DamnFineOnline
Hyper
baremuffin/MinXxX

I've also got some new, exclusive feeds that are out of production (complete) but haven't actually begun being promoted yet that I'd like to donate 3 months access to as a lower-level prize...maybe like fourth, something like that. One minute RealPlayer clips, categorized and ripped for high-quality broadband streaming, and also to be a short, palatable download for modem users as well. Whoever is in charge of the prizes, please contact me and I'll get you the info... [email protected] or ICQ 37519122 or hell, even AIM if you must, look for baremuffin.

If anybody has any gothic content they'd be willing to trade for contest use only, please hit me up. I don't have any of that, and that's where my heart REALLY is :)

It's ok to donate a prize and enter, right? If not, I'll have the client I represent on the feeds be the actual 'prize sponsor'; we can probably throw in a dvd package as well.

I've read this whole thread and I'm really looking forward to seeing everybody's work. I see there's questions regarding the usage of Flash, and though I'm staying out of that one, I'd like to know what constitutes a 'weird' plug-in... some of my tours include vid content, and I guess I'd like to know if that's outright banned in this competition, or if it would be okay for a vid-based niche tour...

Also, finally, are there any limitations on categories? I understand lolita, kiddy, beastie, rape, etc. are common sense no-nos, but I was wondering if watersport, fisting, gothic, etc. are all valid choices.

If not, I'm sure I can go with something a little less... specialized :)

Thanks guys, this should be alot of fun... though looking at Amp's stuff has put the proverbial fear of designing God into my heart...

Take care,
Michelle

heheh i'd love to play with some gothic content too.. was thinking of asking sykkboy.. but.... if you're going to do it..

Keev 05-17-2002 03:01 AM

GO AMP GO! only a couple hundred left to go to 10k

bunky 05-17-2002 03:01 AM

whats the offical rule/prize/contestant/ page again??

baremuffin 05-17-2002 03:08 AM

I'm going to die a jealous and unfulfilled woman if you get that goth content, Amp :) I dont' know enough people to know who to ask, so I guess good luck and run with it :o)

I'd figured I'd do something up MY alley for this, since for once a client isn't calling the shots or setting the limits, but then I crawled into my content trove and lo and behold... it's all pretty mainstream, not really my 'thing' at all, lol... tons of blow jobs, tons of anal, tons of group (dp and a2m even), lots of ebony, lots of girl/girl, lots of tits, big and small, and facial cumshots galore... but I want goth, or heavy duty bdsm. Not even any fisting *sigh*

Ah well, I'll probably crawl back to pornstars... it's easy to make them look good *giggle*

Then, in the morning, I'm up to BEG one of my clients to shoot me some good gothic shit... or just to shoot me!

*crawls back under rock*

M

Jakke PNG 05-17-2002 03:16 AM

Oh boy, oh boy, boy!
This is gonna be swell!
:thumbsup

danevans 05-17-2002 03:24 AM

So:
Quote:

Originally posted by BadBoyBill4281
so lets all make a choice here and now and say one set of content for all to use grab free content from all the BIG content providers and set a page up with it on it and call it a day and say you have to use this content to be in the thing everythign else goes!
Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
1. The niches would have to be preset. No question about it. Can be 5 niches to choose from.... 3.... or 1..... whatever. But there would have to be content for however many niches there's gonna be, because you can't do a teen tour with fetish content. Know what I mean?
2. This also means that everyone will have to use the same content sets.... (which is why 4 or 5 or 6 different niches to choose from would be nice) and that means we need a content provider to sponsor this thing and provide the sets that are to be used in the tours. Any content providers out there wanna step up to this? If there are multiple content providers that are willing to do this, we could have the 5 or so niches, and have the providers sponsor one niche each. If you choose to do that niche, you use the content assigned to it.

Quote:

Originally posted by Siren
Post the zip file when the contest commences, and that is the first time anyone sees it.
It is real life, and evens the play feild.

Someone mentioned apples and oranges.. If different/own content and domains will be allowed, then flash should be allowed too, cause the final look&feel is what we're after.
And if we want a "real-life" situation, then all of us must work with the same sets of content (not one set, but the same "total" material), same 5-6 domains, and content zips should be uploaded on June 1st, and the tours should be flat, no flash.
I think this makes sense, if it's BS tell me that :)

BadBoyBill4281 05-17-2002 03:24 AM

here is the GFYdesign contest site http://www.opticalamplitude.com/showdown/index.html

mule 05-17-2002 03:29 AM

Dammit, when will I get the time? Life is too hectic lately.
But I wanna do it anyway :)

TeenGodFather
Hypo
Nina
Bhuto
Lickshots
redshift
amp
Sabai
va2k
Vegasdude
AdultWebGraphics
Fletch XXX
Tylo
XXXPaysiteDesign
Andrew@XPD
Brut
Tabster
MetaformX
GotGauge
alias
DamnFineOnline
Hyper
baremuffin/MinXxX
mule

Am I in now? This thread is too damned long :)

spanky 05-17-2002 03:34 AM

TeenGodFather
Hypo
Nina
Bhuto
Lickshots
redshift
amp
Sabai
va2k
Vegasdude
AdultWebGraphics
Fletch XXX
Tylo
XXXPaysiteDesign
Andrew@XPD
Brut
Tabster
MetaformX
GotGauge
alias
DamnFineOnline
Hyper
baremuffin/MinXxX
mule
spanky

:thumbsup

cheers

bhutocracy 05-17-2002 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by baremuffin
I'm going to die a jealous and unfulfilled woman if you get that goth content, Amp :) I dont' know enough people to know who to ask, so I guess good luck and run with it :o)

I'd figured I'd do something up MY alley for this, since for once a client isn't calling the shots or setting the limits, but then I crawled into my content trove and lo and behold... it's all pretty mainstream, not really my 'thing' at all, lol... tons of blow jobs, tons of anal, tons of group (dp and a2m even), lots of ebony, lots of girl/girl, lots of tits, big and small, and facial cumshots galore... but I want goth, or heavy duty bdsm. Not even any fisting *sigh*

Ah well, I'll probably crawl back to pornstars... it's easy to make them look good *giggle*

Then, in the morning, I'm up to BEG one of my clients to shoot me some good gothic shit... or just to shoot me!

*crawls back under rock*

M

i think you meant me.. but it's hard as hell to find cool stuff :(.. i certainly don't have any.. just searched for about an hour.. unseen has some girls that are slightly goth amatuers.. matrix has a couple, that i must say.. well.. aren't that goth.. more pornstar in gothish clothes..ounique has one girl.. and she hasn't been colour corrected and isn't of as high a standard as the previous two companies..

bhutocracy 05-17-2002 04:11 AM

if that helps at all.. or saves you a $$$ exclusive shoot..

pornsuite 05-17-2002 04:20 AM

ok, im in this shit.

Nysus 05-17-2002 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornsuite
ok, im in this shit.
Didn't you fuck webmasters over? I never heard what happened, if it was something that was truthfully out of your control, and why you have taken down your hosting (and put up banner pages), then please explain... maybe you can start a new thread.

Unless it was a joke, I don't see how you're still here..

Cheers,
Matt

baremuffin 05-17-2002 06:32 AM

The non-spoofy (if that's even a fucking word) gothic or 'dark' themed porn I've found is either too staged, like the pornstars in 'gothy' outfits you spoke of before, or campy, like those "gore" sites I've seen around once or twice... with martians, and vampire nuns and stuff. It's fun, I love it because it's different, but it's not GOTH like I want GOTH - I guess that takes either REAL goth chicks, or girls that have pale skin, dark hair, and who can fake the goth look without looking completely out of their element whilst also managing to be sexy and possibly be boned - apparently, not an easy find ;)

Hopefully inspiration will still strike, even without yummy gothy fun... but if anybody has some yummy gothy fun they'd want to sponsor in this contest, I'll take it :) Otherwise, it's pornstars or lesbians... or maybe oral... see, I can't even make a bloody decision! If anybody's having a *really* hard time scraping content together but really wants to do this, let me know, I may be able to help you out.

Happy Friday folks! Don't party too hard, believe me waking up on the second Monday without knowing it can be a serious pain in the @$$ - or head, however you prefer. Remember, the real party is NEXT weekend :)

Michelle

Brian911 05-17-2002 06:36 AM

I strongly vote for "preset" niches AND content because it WILL be most interesting (at least from my point of view) to see what they made of it. It's also much easier to compare that way..
5 niches to choose from sounds good.

and the web voting is a bad idea IMHO. perhaps lensman is able to find some kind of "board add-on" for invisible voting results, and of course only those who registered before 15/5 will be allowed to vote..
this way "cheating" is probably still possible but it simple WOULDNT HURT as much as a "hitbot" for web voting because there are so many hundreds of board members who can and will vote... if some designer asks his buddies to vote for him to get the $3000 tv it does not really matter for the final result :)

(this_thread = top)

:winkwink:

baremuffin 05-17-2002 07:17 AM

I could see some people feeling their creativity 'stifled' by not being able to use their own judgement and taste in selecting photographic materials to build a tour with, despite the argument that in a 'real' situation with a 'real' client they'd theoretically be 'limited' to what the client had onhand.

However, I'd imagine most designers, like myself, take only clients with subject matter reasonably interesting to themselves; I wouldn't take a scat site, for example, because I wouldn't be able to create a site appealing to the end-user, because to me it's completely offputting. I also feel no qualms about asking the photographers and/or videographers I work for/with for specific material to use in the future for design, promo, whatever.

So, limiting the content wouldn't really establish 'reality' or a more level playing field; at least, I don't think so, and we've already sort of agreed that since this is a graphic design showdown, there's already a lack of 'realism' inherent because in the real world, it's not about how pretty it is, it's about how well it converts. Limiting the content seems even more unfair when you read through the thread and see how many people are actually willing to share content, even if for the contest only, which in itself levels the playing field by allowing everybody some sort of access to something they like, something that inspires them, and something that reflects their style and taste and creativity.

With the new trend in 'ultraniche' categories (balloons, anyone?) exactly who gets to choose WHICH five categories we finally settle on? I could see going with overly general categories, i.e. hardcore, fetish, gay, amateur, but then what becomes important enough to be number five? Lesbian could legitimately be pushed under gay; anal, oral, toys, cumshots, fucking, group all fall under hardcore; fetish covers anything from balloons to butts to piss; maybe the fifth category could be ethnic sites? If so, that might work, it'd still let everyone choose pretty much freely, if you'd consider blonde/brunette/redhead 'ethnic' just like ebony, interracial, asian, and latin...

Unless you broke it down like that, I don't know how you could fairly choose five strict 'categories' (what, no group interracial trannie insertion category?), and really, does the category of the site even matter (as long as it's LEGAL, of course!)? If we delineate the entries like that, it brings the apples/oranges argument back again.

Keeping it simple and open to interpretation is sort of the fun part, I think. Flash and plug-ins aside, this is an artistic free-for-all and on some level, I personally figure the less regulation of ideas and the creative process, the better results we're all going to have, the more fun it will turn out to be, and, I'd bet, in the end it'll turn out to be quite a profitable 'game' for many of us, in some form or another.

Ok that was long winded. Sorry. Just my thoughts... and apparently, there's WAY TOO MANY of them flitting around in there.

Michelle

PS - (Added a minute later) - Don't you think it'd be interesting to see if anybody came up with something really out there like MenstruatingMoms.com or even SatisfyingShitSex.net? Though the chance is an outside one, it will be interesting to see which categories people gravitate toward, and how far some will bother going with it :)

Yes, I need sleep. That much is obvious, even to me :321GFY

batdelfuego 05-17-2002 07:39 AM

I want to register... in the flash category...

My name is batdelfuego
from www.dconvulsions.com

email: [email protected]

Thanx!

0zzy 05-17-2002 08:02 AM

Is there still 2 categories? Flash and Non-Flash, because it look like there is more and more designer welling to do the free tour in flash.

Houdini 05-17-2002 08:12 AM

I think we decided that there would be a flash category, but only for show. Since there is only one grand prize, we're going with the original rules that said no flash for competition. There's a lot of thread here so I may have missed something, but that was last that I read on it.

MikeEP 05-17-2002 08:18 AM

I thought i would add my 2cents to this showdown you guys are having.

From other contests that i've see, (and i think a few people already pointed this out), the contestants are usually given one niche, and all the same content...choosen by the officials.

The officials should choose the niche, and the content. On a certain day, everyone in the contest can download the zip file to the contains the content...say, 20 different sets in the zip file.

No contestant knows the niche, or whats inside the zip file until that day.... this avoids pre planning.

Once they get the content, and the niche, then they design.

This makes the content totally even as eveyone uses the same content and niche.

A contest like thisis meant to show the creativity of each person, and how they use the content that were given. Thus, this IS what this contest is about from what iv'e read. I personally would love to see how 15 different designers choose to design with all the same content.

When your able to be given content from providers, and choose your own niche, it really makes no sense in my opinion. You guys have talked about having the voting without showing results because it's "sways" peoples judgement.

Well, what about different niche's? It does the same thing. If a contestant did a teen niche, and another one choose a mature niche, people are most likey going to "sway" towards there favorite niches...thus making the voting uneven.

A true contest is this:

On a certain day choosen by the officials, you go to webpage that is given out to each contestant. This is where the contestants find out the niche they will be designing, and download a zip file which contains the content that the officials choosen...(for that niche obviously).

A week later, the designs are do and people vote. If there's any ties, the official make the final vote, or hold a second contest for the people who tied.

Anyway, just :2 cents:

MagicksAntics 05-17-2002 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nysus


Fuck Magick, where have you been?? :) You prolly don't remember me, we didn't talk all that much, I think we mostly talked around PimpWars though... not too sure.. was talking about you today infact! ;) I last thought Sex.com picked ya up.. but I heard differently :)

Cheers,
Matt

Wassup Matt?! How the hell are ya? :) Yes indeed I at one time worked for Sex.com...last year. Worked for them up until August when Insite Adult gave me one of those offers you can't refuse :winkwink: Hit me up on ICQ dude! 109972218

:)

alias 05-17-2002 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Houdini
I think we decided that there would be a flash category, but only for show. Since there is only one grand prize, we're going with the original rules that said no flash for competition. There's a lot of thread here so I may have missed something, but that was last that I read on it.

there is no flash category, if u want to go make a badass flash site and make a thread called "flash: isnt it swell" feel free to do so.

Houdini 05-17-2002 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by alias



there is no flash category, if u want to go make a badass flash site and make a thread called "flash: isnt it swell" feel free to do so.

I don't do flash, but there were some guys that were going to show off their designs. Like I said it is non competition, but last I read we're going to have a showcase for flash.

alias 05-17-2002 08:33 AM

yeah i realized that after i posted, houdini

what i said was phrased towards you.. but i meant to the the flash designers etc that wanted to use it

Amputate Your Head 05-17-2002 08:35 AM

I just woke up here..... damn..... I got some fresh reading to do i guess

X37375787 05-17-2002 08:40 AM

don't know if it's been noticed here, but I posted linkage on AWI and soon on other boards to attract even more designers :glugglug

Keep up the great work guys !

baremuffin 05-17-2002 08:46 AM

I'd love to see a flash showcase... I dabble a little, but not as much as I should, and some of the things you can do with it are great. It'd be wonderful to see sites run and designed completely in flash rather than just flash splash grahpics or non-interactive use of flash... nav, menus, sales pitches, dynamic copy, etc. - is that what calibur of work you guys are going to be doing?

I'm very curious :)

Michelle

cherrylula 05-17-2002 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
Here is an excellent idea on what to do with the tours after it's over that was just emailed to me:

The top three prize sponsors should receive the top three tours.

Sponsor donating the 1st place prize gets the 1st place tour.
2nd place prize sponsor gets the 2nd place tour.
3rd place prize sponsor gets the 3rd place tour.

this sounds workable to me.... except.... there's gonna be multiple prizes for each place, but only one tour for each place.

needs some refinement..... suggestions?

Yeah what if the designer uses exclusive content and does not want to give up his design after the contest?

Amputate Your Head 05-17-2002 08:55 AM

I understand where you guys are coming from with the fixed sets/fixed niche thing..... but this is turning out to be pretty huge... do you really wanna look at 30 or 40+ versions of the same site? :eek7

Wouldn't it be much more interesting to see a wide array of differeent stuff? How does that make it unfair? If you're doing a tour that you personally got a groove for, I kinda think that would promote everyone's BEST work.... and isn't that what we really wanna see? Even if someone picks a bizarre niche.... if they're good at doing that niche, the tour should be smokin'.....

we DO have judges for this, and they're not going to base a final decision on one or another because they don't like "Gay" or something.... they're responsible enough to know that it's about the design of the tour and not their own personal sexual preferences. Have some faith here.....


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