How many "outside the U.S." webmasters are emailing ICANN? - GoFuckYourself.com

seeric · 05-08-2006, 08:11 AM

me thinky not alot.

Dirty F · 05-08-2006, 08:13 AM

I mailed them!

Dirty F · 05-08-2006, 08:13 AM

I told them i give .xxx 2 thumbs up!

Jakke PNG · 05-08-2006, 08:13 AM

I did, however I don't think it'll make any difference. It won't hurt and it took a minute to do, so why not.

minusonebit · 05-08-2006, 08:13 AM

Bump for the death of .xxx!

xtrasyn · 05-08-2006, 08:13 AM

I am in mentioned category and no I will not. Ever.

Tried to stop ICANN itself once but I later laughed at my own naivity.

seeric · 05-08-2006, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck

I told them i give .xxx 2 thumbs up!

i don't have a hard time believing that.

The Duck · 05-08-2006, 08:18 AM

I did it..

seeric · 05-08-2006, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kandah

I did it..

thank you

nekrom · 05-08-2006, 08:22 AM

Yes. I and a few other Australian webmasters have done it.

-N

crockett · 05-08-2006, 08:27 AM

Well assuming .xxx went through and the worst case scenario happened all adult sites had to use a .xxx domain. I think it would effect everyone just the same no matter where you were located.

Simply because they could make the billing processors bill only for sites using .xxx extensions. So by doing that an American law could effect the mass of all online adult.

Not that I think it would ever happen or stand up in a 1st amendment fight but you have to think about the worst case scenarios.

Just remember domain extensions or not, all the US govt has to do is put pressure on the credit card companies the same way they have done with online gambling and things could get real bad real quick for everyone no matter where you are located.

nekrom · 05-08-2006, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

Well assuming .xxx went through and the worst case scenario happened all adult sites had to use a .xxx domain. I think it would effect everyone just the same no matter where you were located.

Simply because they could make the billing processors bill only for sites using .xxx extensions. So by doing that an American law could effect the mass of all online adult..(sic).

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but wouldn't that just increase the amount of companies using offshore billers, such as Verotel and whatnot?

Not all processing companies are usa based and if such a government ideal was brought in, I can't see the USA controlling foreign processing entities.

-N

seeric · 05-08-2006, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

Well assuming .xxx went through and the worst case scenario happened all adult sites had to use a .xxx domain. I think it would effect everyone just the same no matter where you were located.

Simply because they could make the billing processors bill only for sites using .xxx extensions. So by doing that an American law could effect the mass of all online adult.

Not that I think it would ever happen or stand up in a 1st amendment fight but you have to think about the worst case scenarios.

Just remember domain extensions or not, all the US govt has to do is put pressure on the credit card companies the same way they have done with online gambling and things could get real bad real quick for everyone no matter where you are located.

ultimately, yes that is the case. but xxx will create a rogue opportunity. u.s. people are fucked no matter what. opportunities will be created for people in other countries to exploit the xxx issue. there are lots of billing companies used for all sorts of things that ccbill and epoch and all those bound by u.s. laws can't process. i see opportunities arisign for anyone who lives where the laws thumb their nose at the u.s. tld filtering is ineffective and with that tech advantage there are ops. maybe i have tin hat syndrome.

crockett · 05-08-2006, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by nekrom

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but wouldn't that just increase the amount of companies using offshore billers, such as Verotel and whatnot?

Not all processing companies are usa based and if such a government ideal was brought in, I can't see the USA controlling foreign processing entities.

-N

Yea but where do the bulk of online sales come from for us? I can't think of anyone who would want to lose all their US sales.

It would have nothing to do with where the billing company was located, but rather where the subscriber was.

MetaMan · 05-08-2006, 08:35 AM

my question is, are some webmasters who live outside the USA looking forward to .xxx?

nekrom · 05-08-2006, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

Yea but where do the bulk of online sales come from for us? I can't think of anyone who would want to lose all their US sales.

It would have nothing to do with where the billing company was located, but rather where the subscriber was.

Yes I agree 70% of my sales are USA based. But unless the usa gov brings in some sort of country level filtering thingy to block all adult content, that's not restricted to .xxx tld's, I can't see how a paysite with an offshore biller, can't target usa surfs, with a business like usual attitude.

Unless I'm misunderstanding an outlined point somewhere.

-N

nekrom · 05-08-2006, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan

my question is, are some webmasters who live outside the USA looking forward to .xxx?

I'm sure there are people the world over, waiting to cash in on the .xxx crud. Myself and most others though, think it's pants and want nothing to do with it.

-N

seeric · 05-08-2006, 08:48 AM

filtering at the tld level is ineffective. you could process in dollars with an overseas billing company. the customer location doesn't dictate where and how you take their money. shit, i buy mp3's from russian websites all the time.

NBDesign · 05-08-2006, 08:51 AM

So if this goes through, do they give you your domain with the new .xxx? or do you have to re-register all your domains?

Thinking of buying some popular sites with the .xxx Like www.gfy.xxx... www.hustler.xxx, I will sell them back fairly cheap.... LOL.... j/k ;)

crockett · 05-08-2006, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nekrom

Yes I agree 70% of my sales are USA based. But unless the usa gov brings in some sort of country level filtering thingy to block all adult content, that's not restricted to .xxx tld's, I can't see how a paysite with an offshore biller, can't target usa surfs, with a business like usual attitude.

Unless I'm misunderstanding an outlined point somewhere.

-N

What I mean, and don't get me wrong I don't think they could actually do it but it's best to look at worst case when it involves your business.

The US govt could simply put pressure on the credit card companies to not allow them to be used to buy what the govt might consider obscene products online or where ever.

They could simply set a fine for each actual purchase so it would make the CC companies decide to not allow there cards to be used to buy porn online.

If you look back at one of the first cases that the Patriot Act was used for it was against Pay Pal because they were processing for online gambling. Soon after PayPal stopped allowing their service to be used for both online gambling and adult products or services. The exact same thing could easily happen with credit cards in a worst case scenario.

Damian_Maxcash · 05-08-2006, 08:55 AM

I sent mine - but I think it will die in the courts even if it gets through.

There are to many "buts" - but what about Google, Yahoo etc showing adult - but what about blog hosts etc etc etc etc.

Too many obvious inconsistancies and that will make it impossible to police and enforce imho.

MetaMan · 05-08-2006, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nekrom

I'm sure there are people the world over, waiting to cash in on the .xxx crud. Myself and most others though, think it's pants and want nothing to do with it.

-N

no i mean other coutries saying fuck the usa, because they are obviously trying to control the internet.

wouldnt this open the door for sites run outside the usa to get more business?

crockett · 05-08-2006, 09:08 AM

btw in case you didn't see where I was going with the above replay in regards with .xxx domains.

The govt could easily set up a make shift zoning law, kinda like you can't open up a strip club in a residential neighborhood. So they could set it up so the big three Visa, Master Card and Discover wouldn't be aloud to be used to buy memberships on adult sites unless they were in the adult business zone online which would of course would be .xxx.

Sarah_Jayne · 05-08-2006, 09:13 AM

I did..of course I am American but I live here. I think it is a bad idea all around

bizarredollars · 05-08-2006, 09:43 AM

I am in the UK, and I emailed them too!

FlogTheLog · 05-08-2006, 09:45 AM

i am from Australia and i am emailing them now

madawgz · 05-08-2006, 09:46 AM

i did, and i live in canada

Cyrano · 05-08-2006, 09:47 AM

I sent them an e-mail yesterday.

sfera · 05-08-2006, 09:50 AM

i didnt

05-08-2006, 10:08 AM

I did e-mail !

Matiz · 05-08-2006, 10:48 AM

Yes, I did

breaker · 05-08-2006, 10:50 AM

I did it yesterday. Don't know if it matter but i hope.

sex69 · 05-08-2006, 11:11 AM

Just sent an e-mail

seeric · 05-08-2006, 11:14 AM

thanks all that did. if not please do.

adultvisitors · 05-08-2006, 11:16 AM

.xxx is a joke

CDSmith · 05-08-2006, 11:23 AM

I've sent them a few emails, one last week and one quite a few weeks before that.

They better pray I don't have to send a 3rd.

Manowar · 05-08-2006, 11:24 AM

ive mailed them

Webby · 05-08-2006, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

The US govt could simply put pressure on the credit card companies to not allow them to be used to buy what the govt might consider obscene products online or where ever.
They could simply set a fine for each actual purchase so it would make the CC companies decide to not allow there cards to be used to buy porn online.

The US govt is irrelevant with the "credit card companies" - tho sure, they can make up whatever laws they like within the US.

The card companies are owned by their "distributors" - the global banking regions. Porn transactions are not really a subject of conversation with the committees in the banking regions - it's irrelevant to them.

Tho... worth noting, and remembering - the only banking region who did agree to that bible - "The Law According To VISA" - was that of North America. All others refused outright.

If you take 50 paces back and have a overall view of the assortment of proposed US laws being thrust up for consideration, the scenario with plastic cards, processors and the value of the dollar, - it is clear there is a watershed is due soon (tho suspect that change has already started on different levels).

By implementing more laws, having a "not so good" relationship with others outside the US, - even those claimed to be "trading partners" - the US is simply becoming more isolated. Add to that the unsustainable economic policy of consuming more than can be paid for and "deferred payment" of international debts - the dollar will go down - a lot further.

Who knows, but already smell a scenario of "international billing" - ie in the currency of the member joining a paysite - and the operator of that paysite being paid in that currency (if they so wish). The advantages are too much to ignore - and, this is already being done by a couple of processors.

In many ways this is a similiar scenario to that of gambling. The US closed the doors with laws, and, as gambling operations increased on the net, the rest of the world opened up and even changed laws to accomodate internet gaming - and this is now flourishing in several countries.

PS Also suspect (it's in the pipeline now) - the net will not remain in the hands of ICANN - that org will go and be replaced by an organisation actually representing member countries with TLD's.

Johny Traffic · 05-08-2006, 01:10 PM

Probably as many outside the US as in the US. You would be supprised how many people outside the US stand up for our rights and our businesess. The world doesnt stop at the US borders.

05-08-2006, 08:11 AM	#1
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05-08-2006, 08:27 AM	#11
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	Well assuming .xxx went through and the worst case scenario happened all adult sites had to use a .xxx domain. I think it would effect everyone just the same no matter where you were located. Simply because they could make the billing processors bill only for sites using .xxx extensions. So by doing that an American law could effect the mass of all online adult. Not that I think it would ever happen or stand up in a 1st amendment fight but you have to think about the worst case scenarios. Just remember domain extensions or not, all the US govt has to do is put pressure on the credit card companies the same way they have done with online gambling and things could get real bad real quick for everyone no matter where you are located. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	I mailed them!

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minusonebit So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: [email protected] Posts: 7,391	Bump for the death of .xxx!

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nekrom Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Australia/Asia Posts: 921	Yes. I and a few other Australian webmasters have done it. -N

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MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	my question is, are some webmasters who live outside the USA looking forward to .xxx?

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seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	filtering at the tld level is ineffective. you could process in dollars with an overseas billing company. the customer location doesn't dictate where and how you take their money. shit, i buy mp3's from russian websites all the time.

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NBDesign Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The other side of Hell Posts: 5,814	So if this goes through, do they give you your domain with the new .xxx? or do you have to re-register all your domains? Thinking of buying some popular sites with the .xxx Like www.gfy.xxx... www.hustler.xxx, I will sell them back fairly cheap.... LOL.... j/k ;) __________________ Use Lensman's program and get the most for your hard earned traffic. Get Heidi for your site Here. Lots of sets to choose from. She makes a great Addition to any site. Grab one Grab All.

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05-08-2006, 09:08 AM	#23
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	btw in case you didn't see where I was going with the above replay in regards with .xxx domains. The govt could easily set up a make shift zoning law, kinda like you can't open up a strip club in a residential neighborhood. So they could set it up so the big three Visa, Master Card and Discover wouldn't be aloud to be used to buy memberships on adult sites unless they were in the adult business zone online which would of course would be .xxx. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	I did..of course I am American but I live here. I think it is a bad idea all around

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