even if we were stupid enough to believe all this pro-XXX crap...as I said on our radio show today, how can we support someone behind this all, who is a more blatant liar than our own President of the United States?
http://www.ynot.com/modules.php?op=m...cle &sid=9663

I don't see a problem with things being run in the US so long as ICANN permanently stays out of politics. That seems to be becoming less likely everyday though.

still waiting to hear what goes on behind closed doors at ICANN.

Fight the glass cup!

How soon will we know within the next 24 hours?

Another bump... One more letter!!

http://www.icann.org/announcements/a...nt-10may06.htm

Marina del Rey, California, 10 May 2006: Today, ICANN's Board of Directors voted against a proposed agreement for a .XXX. Sponsored Top Level Domain (sTLD). The application was proposed by the ICM Registry.

The application has received much public comment and detailed discussion by the ICANN Board. Reflecting the diversity of views this application has generated, the Board discussion at today's meeting focused on the criteria for the sTLD, especially for sponsorship, and the terms of the contract proposed by ICM, including compliance issues related to key terms associated with public policy concerns. ICM had proposed additional terms in response to issues raised by ICANN's Governmental Advisory Committee, particularly at ICANN's meeting in Wellington in March. http:// http://www.icann.org/announcements/a...t1-18apr06.htm

ICM had requested that the ICANN Board vote on the proposed contract at this meeting.

ICANN's Board voted 9 to 5 against the proposed agreement. Votes in favor of the proposed .XXX Registry Agreement were cast by the following Board Members: Veni Markovski, Susan Crawford, Peter Dengate Thrush, Joichi Ito, and Mouhamet Diop. Directors who voted against the approval were Vint Cerf (Chairman), Alejandro Pisanty (Vice-Chairman), Raimundo Beca, Demi Getschko, Hagen Hultzsch, Njeri Rionge, Vanda Scartezini, Paul Twomey (President and CEO), and Hualin Qian. Additional details regarding the vote will be provided by ICANN later this week.



Fight the dot gone!

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i hope this serves as a wake up call to the adult industry as a whole to start taking the industry as a whole more serious. this could have very easily gone the other way. the time is now to support these organizatons that go to bat for this business, act like professionals, and push through the TLDs that "we" know will stop kids from accessing adult materials as best as possible.

we do in fact peddle immoral goods in the eyes of millions of americans and the governments that "protect" those people. however, many other industries are also peddling "immoral" and in fact extremely devastating products that affect the daily lives of americans for the negative. lets talk about gun manufacturers, cigarette companies, alcohol companies, and drug compaies, just to shave a sliver off the type of companies that push "questionable" materials to all the poor innocent americans.

all of these industries are represented at the government level and lobby hard to make things happen in their favor.

it is a known fact that cigarettes kill millions every year, disrupting families and damaging happy american dreamer's lives every day.

guns are responsible for many deaths each year, yet still are poured on to the streets in ridiculous numbers. All legally, and under the limitations of the law, but only barely.

how many people die from paxil, vioxx, and god only knows how many other drugs that are advertised to people on prime time t.v. every night? All legally, and under the limitations of the law, but only barely.

alcohol companies market under the radar to young people under the guise of crafty marketing campaigns and nifty, chic ads designed to subliminally entice them into the products. All legally, and under the limitations of the law, but only barely.

porn does in fact break up marriages, cause some poeple to become sex addicts, possibly influence young people to have sex more frivolously, but in my opinion, and the opinion for may others, does not do the damage that many of these "represented" industries of vice and destruction.

these other industries work on the fringe of "immoral and questionable" just as we do, but they do it by the governments rules.


our industry has problems uniting. until we get over that, there will always be another .xxx, another law, another acacia, and blah blah blah.

i can get into a ridiculously lengthy editorial on why i think what i think from a ton of different perspectives, but i won't. i guess my main point out of all of this is this industry is so "me me me" that everyone risks everything they have more regularly than makes me comfortable, because many of us can say "us".

thats all. I am extrememly relieved. this could have easily been the begininng of a very long and trying perod as .xxx would have been the rollercoaster ride to hell in so many ways.

congrats people, but like baddog said, "well, doubt she(.xxx) is dead, but hospitalized anyway".

be well everyone. we dodged a bullet.

For those think writing their email to ICANN was a waste of time, all those letters DID make a difference.

http://australianit.news.com.au/arti...-15318,00.html


"The applicant had put it forward as a sponsored community from the responsible adult entertainment community. We had received letters from major companies in the sector saying that they were not supportive of it," Mr Twomey said."

Hustlers letter certainly helped.. and all those 600 posts clearly demonstrated that the adult community, the community affected by the .XXX TLD, did not want it.

Believe what you will, but I do know all those emails made a difference, especially in the email correspondances i had with the ICANN chairman leading up to the final vote, and my posts that pointed out that the .XXX TLD application was seriously flawed because the adult community didn't want it.

If it wasn't for all those posters on the ICANN board, I would have no facts to back up my statements.

Fight the famous last words!

Is this the last we're going to hear of .XXX for a long time?

250..........

http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld-agreement/

ppl still posting there, I thought this forum would be closed now

great.. i just send this in.. hopefully it wil make it in:



With the 9 to 5 vote against .XXX, we can now focus on solutions that will truly protect children from harmful material.

.XXX's claims that it will protect children is completely laughable since it is not the magic shield.

As a vocal oppontent to .XXX, i share many of the same sentiments as the pro-.XXX supporters in wanting to have something to keep kids away from adult content.

.XXX is not the answer.

.KIDS is a much better answer, but i understand that the reality of such an idea may never come about, since .KIDS is another content-based TLD idea like .XXX

Most TLD applications are over a trade group or some clearly defined group, like with .TRAVEL.

There are technologists and innovators like myself that feel some duty to discuss and create solutions, rather than just knocking down bad ones.

There are some solutions being worked on. While the adult online industry objected to .XXX, they don't object to the idea of protecting kids, but it has to be a way that actually works and one that still allows adult who want to find the material, the ability to do so, not some means to essentially try to strangle the content.

You may not realize it but the adult online industry funds ASACP.org, a non-profit organization that assist law enforcement and private sector companies in identifying child pornography websites. ASACP.org is celebrating its 10th year and has made a positive impact upon assisting to remove child porn from the internet.

As a soon-to-be-father, my goals are to make the internet a place where when my child (and others) are ready to click their first mouse click,that they can do so in an environment that allows them to explore the wonders of the internet, without being exposed to the harmful elements. I've been on the internet since 1989, and i saw firsthand as the web blossomed. There is certainly many negative things that are on the internet, but there are many great things as well that allow us to travel the world from our computers, in learning about different people, places, and things.



Fight the cut off!

My post made it in....

http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld.../msg00613.html


Fight the last minute!

My post made it in....

http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld.../msg00613.html


Fight the last minute!

I like this one!!!

Congrats to all that wrote in.

This shows that we can come together with a united voice when the need arises.

Sanity has prevailed.

:thumbsup

Kudos to FightThisPatent for helping educate the adult webmaster community on this issue and urging folks to write in - his leadership worked on me.

I agree. His push and instruction is what helped me post my comments against .xxx

Just happy to see it shut down... for now.

I am glad that things are in favor with us.

yes, i believe it is finally dead. All of those 600 posts by webmasters and the letters from companies like Hustler and Private, helped to prove that the .XXX TLD Application was flawed.

One of the reasons that was cited in various news stories, was basically that the Sponsored TLD community (ie. the adult industry), did not want the TLD, and since the community didn't want it, it had to be voted down.

This should have been nailed down 2 years in the first public comment period, and i did post up about it to get people to write in, but everyone seemed to have just let it slide by.

Fortunately this time, webmasters did step up, and i truly believe that it made a difference.. including the last minute email exchanges i had with the chairman of ICANN to point out that the adult community does not want .XXX, no matter what ICM Registry claimed, and that the prove is on the ICANN message board and in the letters that FSC submitted to them.

It has been a long 3 years of me ringing the bell to help webmasters focus on important issues: Acacia, 2257, .XXX

These are big subjects with big impacts upon your business.

2257 is stil here, and congress approved the changes from Ashcroft that included secondary producers to have records. Fortunately the FSC is already in litigation over 2257.

Acacia case is still going on, but they are losing.

For those that joined FSC last year over the 2257 issue, I ask that you continue your financial support of FSC. Lawyers and lobbyists are expensive, and FSC is looking after your business interests.

A new disturbing issue is over "net neutrality". Cable and DSL providers want to charge websites a fee to allow surfers to reach them.

Let me explain it a different way, because it truly is baffling... right now, you can surf the internet at highspeeds on your DSL or cable. If congress passes the bill that allows your network provider to charge access fees, it means that if a website didn't pay their "access fee" (*cough* extortion *cough*), then access to that webste would be put in the "slow lane" where there is less bandwidth, and conceivable may not be able to reach the website if it is a popular website.

Those websites that paid the "access fee" would be in the "high speed lane" and its surfing as usual.

Websites that might be too small to afford the "access fee" might be lumped into the "slow lane" of access.

FSC is tracking this issue, and i am sure EFF as well.

An extrapolation of this bill, is that your broadband carrier can place a "tax" on porn sites in addition to filtering. They may have their own "approved porn websites" that paid big money to be on, and exclude others.

This bill is quite disturbing and more so if congress passes it. It would be nice if FCC could step in to this, so we'll see what happens.

thanks to all that stepped up and expressed themselves. a shameful finger wagging to those that didn't, and given the fact that .XXX is now over, that those that didn't step up due to fear of what those that supported .XXX might do to their business, will realize that it is better to stick to your beliefs, then to worry about the loss of a dollar.

There are plenty of other biz deals that can be made with companies that did stand up (ie http://www.FightTheDotXXX.com) that don't compromise your personal integrity, ideals, and beliefs.



Fight the sidelines!

"Financial Times" article on .XXX

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/91eab4dc-e1...0779e2340.html

Great write-up by Connor over the .XXX TLD:

http://www.ynot.com/modules.php?op=m...le &sid=10497


Fight the ding, dong, the wicked witch is dead!