Fleshlight WTF whats with the traffic leaks? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

woj · 05-05-2006, 04:57 PM

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baddog · 05-05-2006, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dial

wait, so with the fleshlight lifetime cookie, does that mean that once my cookie is dropped, NO ONE else can make a sale on fleshlight from that user?

so, if someone spends all day surfing for porn and clicks a fleshlight link from somewhere else, then they come to my site a month later and I sell the hell out of them for a fleshlight and they click my link because I sold them HARD....I won't get credit for the sale because some other 400k unique a day site happen to have them click first a month ago?

that is jacked up dude

some don't get it

baddog · 05-05-2006, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by VIPimp

They should have it show a PROMO CODE under the phone number and make it display the AFFILIATE ID there... so when they order, fleshlight asks if you have a promo code and they give it.

exactly.

Deej · 05-05-2006, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

then why put an order number ? put a support number and tell them all orders must be placed over the internet...

No offense but if your going to say " chances are slim " you should post actual phone orders %.

What is the % of orders you do over the phone out of curiosity..

Touche'

Only you Can prevent Forest Fires!

baddog · 05-05-2006, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by King Adam

That would solve the whole problem. It can't be that hard to add into the system.

That is what JoeBucks does . . . we get credit for telephone sales all the time.

Ramos · 05-05-2006, 05:11 PM

We are here working hard to get the RIGHT changes that need to be made.

give me some time, Rome wasn't built in a day....

shizer ;)

slavdogg · 05-05-2006, 05:26 PM

Ramos, send me your ref code

Ramos · 05-05-2006, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by slavdogg

Ramos, send me your ref code

No ref bro, shoot me an email

Pete-KT · 05-06-2006, 07:34 AM

The lifetime cookie does NOT get overwritten I have been playing with the codes since lastnight when Ramos called me, Its a lifetime cookie that WILL NOT get overwritten with a new click

RawAlex · 05-06-2006, 09:05 AM

So if you are promoting fleshlight, I would highly recommend zero framing it into your highest traffic sites so that you can score the most cookies. Don't worry about actually promoting it, just get the cookies set and let other people worry about making the sale.

The rule for cookies should be simple: New click means new cookie. Lifetime cookies reward the oldest affiliates and punish the newer ones.

Alex

FleshJoe2005 · 05-06-2006, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by VIPimp

They should have it show a PROMO CODE under the phone number and make it display the AFFILIATE ID there... so when they order, fleshlight asks if you have a promo code and they give it.

Good idea, but... A promo code usually means a discount (for the end user), so what cut are you willing to give for that? 20%? So sales on the phone with your promo code should credit you only 20% instead of 40%?

I'd be willing to go for that.

FleshJoe2005 · 05-06-2006, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

So if you are promoting fleshlight, I would highly recommend zero framing it into your highest traffic sites so that you can score the most cookies. Don't worry about actually promoting it, just get the cookies set and let other people worry about making the sale.

The rule for cookies should be simple: New click means new cookie. Lifetime cookies reward the oldest affiliates and punish the newer ones.

Alex

Alex are you suggesting that you iframe the fleshlight.com page (with your ref code of course

) in your page? DONT please. Cookie stuffing in that way will get you banned in 0 seconds.

But yeah I can see your point.

Pete-KT · 05-06-2006, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FleshJoe2005

Alex are you suggesting that you iframe the fleshlight.com page (with your ref code of course

) in your page? DONT please. Cookie stuffing in that way will get you banned in 0 seconds.

But yeah I can see your point.

Then maybe you should switch to 1 month cookies over lifetime, lifetims is shitty as everyone here has explaned, or atleast make them so they can get overwritten

Tempest · 05-06-2006, 04:42 PM

Cookie needs to be set for lifetime but overwritten by the next referer.

Phone numbers need the "promo code" thing and the operators need to ask for it.

But what about that ref code that got replaced with a new one?? Haven't seen any reply to that issue.

xLaborJames · 05-06-2006, 04:50 PM

bustin balls!

baddog · 05-06-2006, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FleshJoe2005

Good idea, but... A promo code usually means a discount (for the end user), so what cut are you willing to give for that? 20%? So sales on the phone with your promo code should credit you only 20% instead of 40%?

I'd be willing to go for that.

Bullshit. I am guessing by your name that you are associated with the program. If so, go back and read http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...7&postcount=55 and follow the link.

There is no reason why anyone has to take a paycut just because you can't get your shit together.

If you are not associated with the program, then ignore the above.

wyldblyss · 05-06-2006, 05:06 PM

Damn, this thread has been so interesting I read every single post

pstation · 05-06-2006, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FleshJoe2005

Alex are you suggesting that you iframe the fleshlight.com page (with your ref code of course

) in your page? DONT please. Cookie stuffing in that way will get you banned in 0 seconds.

But yeah I can see your point.

hmm...so a competitor could iframe my fleshlight ref code and get me instant banned?

baddog · 05-06-2006, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pstation

hmm...so a competitor could iframe my fleshlight ref code and get me instant banned?

I already did . . . . sorry about that.

dial · 05-06-2006, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FleshJoe2005

Alex are you suggesting that you iframe the fleshlight.com page (with your ref code of course

) in your page? DONT please. Cookie stuffing in that way will get you banned in 0 seconds.

But yeah I can see your point.

i think you all need to go back and rethink your entire affiliate marketing strategy. I am pulling all my flashlight links tonight until you all do...granted, it ain't a lot of traffic, and the 2 sales I DID have were "cancelled" (funny though, in all my years marketing tangible good I have never had a "cancelled" sale), I still am not going to bother with you all

I do find it ironic that such a terribly run affiliate program/backend can all the sudden be so snobby as to say "we are now invite only".....LOL

Ramos · 05-06-2006, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dial

I do find it ironic that such a terribly run affiliate program/backend can all the sudden be so snobby as to say "we are now invite only".....LOL

you are missing the point

do your history, I am here to make changes

affiliates is where my heart is.....

you'll see, but continue as you may

some good advice in this thread

dial · 05-06-2006, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramos

you are missing the point

do your history, I am here to make changes

affiliates is where my heart is.....

you'll see, but continue as you may

some good advice in this thread

is the 1 year cookie gone?

are the backend stats fixed so we can show clicks and also get webmaster referrals?

are the traffic leaks fixed?

say yes to all 3 and I might consider keeping on, but if you give me that "good points, we will work on them" one more time I will puke

don't work on it, do it

Pete-KT · 05-06-2006, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramos

you are missing the point

do your history, I am here to make changes

affiliates is where my heart is.....

you'll see, but continue as you may

some good advice in this thread

Once the program is ready to go with all the correct info then I will be more then happy to add you into all my members areas ramos

Ramos · 05-06-2006, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dial

is the 1 year cookie gone?

are the backend stats fixed so we can show clicks and also get webmaster referrals?

are the traffic leaks fixed?

say yes to all 3 and I might consider keeping on, but if you give me that "good points, we will work on them" one more time I will puke

don't work on it, do it

yes sir

Ramos · 05-06-2006, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete-KT

Once the program is ready to go with all the correct info then I will be more then happy to add you into all my members areas ramos

thank you pete

Pete-KT · 05-06-2006, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramos

thank you pete

anytime Ramos, hey ill see you at Xbiz in July bro

Ramos · 05-06-2006, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete-KT

anytime Ramos, hey ill see you at Xbiz in July bro

Hells yeh

Juicy D. Links · 05-06-2006, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dial

are the backend stats fixed so we can show clicks

not yet bro

Walrus · 05-06-2006, 07:06 PM

Ramos, did you ever get my email about a free fleshlight? I helped DWreck out with something, and he asked me if I wanted a free fleshlight. Then he said to email you and that you'd get me one.

devilspost · 05-06-2006, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FleshJoe2005

Good idea, but... A promo code usually means a discount (for the end user), so what cut are you willing to give for that? 20%? So sales on the phone with your promo code should credit you only 20% instead of 40%?

I'd be willing to go for that.

Right now it is 0% right?

jayeff · 05-06-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dial

i think you all need to go back and rethink your entire affiliate marketing strategy...
<snip>
I do find it ironic that such a terribly run affiliate program/backend can all the sudden be so snobby as to say "we are now invite only".....LOL

For the record, Fleshlight was invite-only from day one (1998-ish?) until a couple of months before Juicy & Co started promoting it on here. I guessed the belated flurry of activity was because sales were winding down and I have often wondered if any affiliates signed up from here have had any success with it.

If that was the reason for letting the riff-raff in (until for whatever reason they reverted to invite-only), no-one should be surprized that the program includes a few "trix". They might be oversights, but...

FleshJoe2005 · 05-06-2006, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Bullshit. I am guessing by your name that you are associated with the program. If so, go back and read http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...7&postcount=55 and follow the link.

There is no reason why anyone has to take a paycut just because you can't get your shit together.

If you are not associated with the program, then ignore the above.

For the record I'm an affiliate. If you're an affiliate then I'm in the same class as you, exactly, to the dot.

FleshJoe2005 · 05-06-2006, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jayeff

For the record, Fleshlight was invite-only from day one (1998-ish?) until a couple of months before Juicy & Co started promoting it on here. I guessed the belated flurry of activity was because sales were winding down and I have often wondered if any affiliates signed up from here have had any success with it.

If that was the reason for letting the riff-raff in (until for whatever reason they reverted to invite-only), no-one should be surprized that the program includes a few "trix". They might be oversights, but...

LOL never attribute to smart evil intentions what you can equally well explain by stupidity.... Enough said

The program is in need of someone like Ramos to rationalize and reorganize it. Sales are not "winding down" in fact they're winding "up" for a huge explosion of profit. You probably arent making enough sales to be able to see that from the order numbers, thats the only way *I* can see it, because of the pitifully inadequate and ridiculously non-existent affiliate support tools, but yes, the sales are up tremendously year over year.

FleshJoe2005 · 05-06-2006, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pstation

hmm...so a competitor could iframe my fleshlight ref code and get me instant banned?

LOL I was speaking figuratively. But yeah, you'll get checked out for sure. If its not your site then d'oh, but yeah, these things get noticed. If one day you send 3 clicks and the next you send 30000 you betcha they notice.

FleshJoe2005 · 05-06-2006, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by devilspost

Right now it is 0% right?

Unfortunately yeah, and I've complained about the traffic leaks long before this thread hit GFY. Nothing doing, they intend to keep their 800 number super visible. Makes sense too. You just have to live with a few leaks. If you go to ftvgirls (not picking on them, just as an example) with my ref code, and then decide to sign up via the phone, I dont think I'll get my cut either.

baddog · 05-11-2006, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FleshJoe2005

For the record I'm an affiliate. If you're an affiliate then I'm in the same class as you, exactly, to the dot.

Then why are you making comments about what will or will not get an affiliate banned?

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RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	So if you are promoting fleshlight, I would highly recommend zero framing it into your highest traffic sites so that you can score the most cookies. Don't worry about actually promoting it, just get the cookies set and let other people worry about making the sale. The rule for cookies should be simple: New click means new cookie. Lifetime cookies reward the oldest affiliates and punish the newer ones. Alex

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Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	Cookie needs to be set for lifetime but overwritten by the next referer. Phone numbers need the "promo code" thing and the operators need to ask for it. But what about that ref code that got replaced with a new one?? Haven't seen any reply to that issue.

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Walrus Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,150	Ramos, did you ever get my email about a free fleshlight? I helped DWreck out with something, and he asked me if I wanted a free fleshlight. Then he said to email you and that you'd get me one.