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Old 05-04-2006, 11:04 AM   #1
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:2cents Failure to render Aid has got to be the stupidest charge

If you don't want to get involved that is your right
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Old 05-04-2006, 11:07 AM   #2
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Old 05-04-2006, 11:07 AM   #3
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i went to jail once for rendering aid. stupid ass cops.
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Old 05-04-2006, 11:09 AM   #4
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i went to jail for failure to give a reindeer aids..
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Old 05-04-2006, 11:12 AM   #5
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i went to jail for failure to give a reindeer aids..
But would you give a moose herpes?
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Old 05-04-2006, 12:22 PM   #6
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Rendering Aid can be as little as just calling 911. You don't really have to get involved.
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Old 05-04-2006, 12:25 PM   #7
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damned if you do and damned if you don't. I know doctors who would refuse to help anyone on the street for the simple fact if something does go wrong, that's his/your ass on the line. I took EMT training etc etc when I was a firefighter, no telling how many injured people we basically ignored until paramedics showed up. Basic Life support and nothing else. I wasn't about to be sued over some dumb shit for trying to help someone
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Old 05-04-2006, 12:27 PM   #8
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Depends on the person... if the person is a medical or emergancy professional then its their job to do it
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Old 05-04-2006, 12:29 PM   #9
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That's how they put away the Seinfeld gang and ended the series :-(
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Old 05-04-2006, 12:32 PM   #10
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Old 05-04-2006, 01:48 PM   #11
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come on, but isn't it kinda cold to see someoen bleeding on the street, and just walk by like you didn't see anything?
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Old 05-04-2006, 01:52 PM   #12
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Old 05-04-2006, 02:03 PM   #13
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Old 05-04-2006, 02:06 PM   #14
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if you can't be bothered helping a fellow human in distress, what fucking good are you?
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Old 05-04-2006, 02:13 PM   #15
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i went to jail for failure to give a reindeer aids..
Try doing a 3d rendering of a reindeer fucking a moose with aids.
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Old 05-04-2006, 02:14 PM   #16
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i dont agree , the law is a good one, who they choose to enforce it upon is sometimes foolish..

Theres a difference between , not helping because you dont know how to help , and not helping because its not your problem..

example.. .. a guy hits a woman and a child in a car accident.. both mother and child are knocked unconcious and the mother is bleeding from a gash and you dont cover the wound and she bleeds to death..

the problem isnt the charge ,its that they would allow people to sue when they are trying to help ( thats what discourages people from helping )

lets face it nobody like to see someone else suffer.
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Old 05-04-2006, 02:22 PM   #18
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That's how they put away the Seinfeld gang and ended the series :-(
I was just about to ask - Did you just watch Seinfeld Ramos?
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Old 05-04-2006, 05:48 PM   #19
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it's not that hard to give aid when you come an accident , can be as little as directing traffic around the scene , calling for help , pulling the person to safety
or giving first aide

here in australia , you can't be charge or prosecuted both in crimincal or civl , if you give assitance and fuck it up even more
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Old 05-04-2006, 05:49 PM   #20
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If you don't want to get involved that is your right
yeah. let someone die because you have tickets to go watch the musical Oklahoma for the 23rd time and then have to rush home with your boyfriend for another night of gerbils up the ass. thats a good reason.

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Old 05-04-2006, 05:50 PM   #21
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Old 05-04-2006, 05:56 PM   #22
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If you don't want to get involved that is your right
If you render aid in Mexico and the person dies, even if you have nothing to do with it, you go to jail unless you are rescue personnel.

When there's a car accident here or someone on a bike gets hit by a car, people just stand around and watch.

I don't think I could do that, I think I'd help anyway, but the scenes I've been on so far have already had heroic measures being taken so I stayed out of it all..

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Old 05-04-2006, 06:00 PM   #24
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That's the Good Samaritan law from the last two episodes of Seinfeld.
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Old 05-04-2006, 06:40 PM   #25
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Good Samaritan Statute
What is a Good Samaritan Statute?

Good Samaritan statutes are laws enacted by the various states that
protect healthcare providers and other rescuers from being sued when
they are giving emergency help to a victim provided the person uses
reasonable, prudent guidelines for care using the resources they have
available at the time of the accident. Most states have enacted some
form of Good Samaritan or Volunteer Protection law prohibiting a victim
from suing a physician or other health care professional for injuries from
a Good Samaritan act. To trigger the protection of such an act, several conditions must be satisfied: it must be a volunteer act, the person
receiving the help must not object to being helped, and the actions of
the rescuer must be a good-faith effort to help.

People are rarely sued for helping in an emergency, but the existence
of Good Samaritan Laws does not mean that some one cannot sue.
Good Samaritan Laws do not provide absolute protection from malpractice
claims. Each state has guidelines for professionals. A professional should
not leave a patient unless care is transferred to an equally competent
professional. This might mean a trip to the ER in some cases. Always
activate emergency medical services as soon as possible so that you
can leave the person in hands of competent rescue personnel. Negligence
and gross misconduct are not defensible!

Some states have enacted laws that make it a punishable offense NOT
to render aid... There are many factors to be considered about responding
as a Good Samaritan as a health care professional... can I be sued? What happens when a Good Samaritan suffers injuries or damage to his or her
property as a result of responding to a call for help? Do Good Samaritan
Laws protect me if I respond to help in cases of terrorist bombings or
similar large-scale disasters?

While each state's statutes differ, the basic principles are similar-

"Any person who, in good faith, renders emergency medical care or
assistance to an injured person at the scene of an accident or other
emergency without the expectation of receiving or intending to receive
compensation from such injured person for such service, shall not be
liable in civil damages for any act or omission, not constituting gross
negligence, in the course of such care or assistance."
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