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Old 05-03-2006, 08:45 PM   #1
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welcome the scammers to epiccash.....

we have already killed 3 accounts today for cheating. how were they cheating? signing up themselves and not telling us after.

we WELCOME people to do test joins. HOWEVER, if you dont tell us after and you get paid on it, we consider that fraud and you are breaking our TOS and you forfiet your earnings.

everyone clear on that? good.

you fucking idiots.


how hard is it to do a test join and shoot a quick 10 word email telling us and not get your acct killed?

use your heads.
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Old 05-03-2006, 08:46 PM   #2
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did you refund those signups or just keep the money?
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did you refund those signups or just keep the money?

thanks for caring sleazy.. yes he was refunded 15 times.
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damn that guy is hot.. who is it?

oh me

one night in corpus christi.. move over paris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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damn that guy is hot.. who is it?

oh me

one night in corpus christi.. move over paris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Damn you're hot hot hot hot
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damn that guy is hot.. who is it?

oh me

one night in corpus christi.. move over paris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
is this pre cam show boy or post?

keep it real.
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Damn. If you're gonna cheat shouldn't ya be smarter about it?
pussyluver...they actually did try to throw us off by using different hosted galeries to join through!
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Was one of them XCBA.com by any chance?

We termed their account on Condom Cash a week or two back because they were carding and we caught it before CCBill did.

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pussyluver...they actually did try to throw us off by using different hosted galeries to join through!

Nice guys!!! Not only am I gonna steal your money, I'm gonna do it on your bandwidth.

Another Epic conversion today. May have to put all those links back up and then some. Thanks.

Maybe these guys were spreading your wealth?? That happens sadly. Scam to get someone else in trouble or destroy a program.
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i dont get it.. they did 15 trial signups ? or they did 14 sales and 1 trial signup ?

15 trial signups doesnt sound legit , but throwing away a 7 signup a day affiliate over 1 trial signup doesnt sound very smart either..

He either is an adbuyer or a carder ( because of the gap in days between traffic ) , but if he is a carder why would he signup under his own name and clue you in on it..
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i dont get it.. they did 15 trial signups ? or they did 14 sales and 1 trial signup ?

15 trial signups doesnt sound legit , but throwing away a 7 signup a day affiliate over 1 trial signup doesnt sound very smart either..

He either is an adbuyer or a carder ( because of the gap in days between traffic ) , but if he is a carder why would he signup under his own name and clue you in on it..
I hope you never ever decide to start your own affiliate program?
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maybe he is just an adbuyer and he thought he could get away with it , but if he is doing 7 sales a day , doesnt sound like a very smart idea to make 1 extra sale when your making 210 sales a month.

I would just ask him and if he admits to it tell him that was his one and only strike.. doesnt seem like amsart idea to throw away a good affiliate over $35 , but then again it isnt always about the amount..
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i dont get it.. they did 15 trial signups ? or they did 14 sales and 1 trial signup ?

15 trial signups doesnt sound legit , but throwing away a 7 signup a day affiliate over 1 trial signup doesnt sound very smart either..

He either is an adbuyer or a carder ( because of the gap in days between traffic ) , but if he is a carder why would he signup under his own name and clue you in on it..

you lost me compeltley.. but a sale is a sale wether its a trial or not.. we pay on monthly and trial sales.. so 15 sales is 15 sales... and yes we will term the account for even 1 sale if we are not notified and you are caught.. he got greedy
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you lost me compeltley.. but a sale is a sale wether its a trial or not.. we pay on monthly and trial sales.. so 15 sales is 15 sales... and yes we will term the account for even 1 sale if we are not notified and you are caught.. he got greedy
but does that sound like "greed" to you ? im just saying it either sounds like acomplete fraud and he shouldnt be paid on any of it ( i.e. look deeper into the sales ) or it sounds like a a reg affiliate who tried a signup to make sure his sales were being counted. i mean lets be realistic , you have the ability to detect it so you can just deduct that amount from his next check and not lose anything , if he did it more than once thats a diff story.. but 210 sales a month is well over 6 grand , doesnt sound like someone "greedy" , you would have to be an idiot to risk getting banned for an extra $35. are you sure he didnt contact or email someone else at epic ? i mean not like i care , to me it looks like a fraudster because of the gap in traffic , but i would have to know a bit more about it..

Im just saying , you openly boast about shaving , and openly ask affiliates to test you all in the same breath sometimes so maybe that could leave to some confusion.. Most sane english speaking people realise your joking but i could see how someone that wasnt could be confused right if there was any other indication it was "fraud" i would take him for a long walk off a short pier, but warning the affil and recouping your money cant hurt either if he is legit.. good phone call always helps sort out the confusion , and if you think he is dodgy you can make the decision to axe him right on the phone person to person
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but does that sound like "greed" to you ? im just saying it either sounds like acomplete fraud and he shouldnt be paid on any of it ( i.e. look deeper into the sales ) or it sounds like a a reg affiliate who tried a signup to make sure his sales were being counted. i mean lets be realistic , you have the ability to detect it so you can just deduct that amount from his next check and not lose anything , if he did it more than once thats a diff story.. but 210 sales a month is well over 6 grand , doesnt sound like someone "greedy" , you would have to be an idiot to risk getting banned for an extra $35. are you sure he didnt contact or email someone else at epic ? i mean not like i care , to me it looks like a fraudster because of the gap in traffic , but i would have to know a bit more about it..

Im just saying , you openly boast about shaving , and openly ask affiliates to test you all in the same breath sometimes so maybe that could leave to some confusion.. Most sane english speaking people realise your joking but i could see how someone that wasnt could be confused right if there was any other indication it was "fraud" i would take him for a long walk off a short pier, but warning the affil and recouping your money cant hurt either if he is legit.. good phone call always helps sort out the confusion , and if you think he is dodgy you can make the decision to axe him right on the phone person to person


dont tell me you have traffic that converts 1:1.. its not possible.. i dont care if the traffic is god himself.. traffic just doesnt convert like that.. ofcoarse we will look into it further, but im gonan have to say this is pretty mucha no brainer
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infact that gives me a good idea for a promotion for you.. raise your min payout by $50 and allow affiliates 1 signup on their own credit card as a test , you could call it the "ANTI-SHAVING PROOF TEST" , no need to notify you ( thus making it a true test ) , every affiliate gets 1 chance at any point during the year to test their account with their own credit card AND get paid for it.. ( by raising the min payout its basically just like a one time $35 bonus for making the min payout )

infact any pps program that doesnt shave should try this promotion , it would be a great test.
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think of the great threads you could make " buy a membership from any epiccash pornsite and get PAID for it )
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infact that gives me a good idea for a promotion for you.. raise your min payout by $50 and allow affiliates 1 signup on their own credit card as a test , you could call it the "ANTI-SHAVING PROOF TEST" , no need to notify you ( thus making it a true test ) , every affiliate gets 1 chance at any point during the year to test their account with their own credit card AND get paid for it.. ( by raising the min payout its basically just like a one time $35 bonus for making the min payout )

infact any pps program that doesnt shave should try this promotion , it would be a great test.

thats actually apretty good idea... i will pass this along to my superiors... dont be surprised if its implimented into the system

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dont tell me you have traffic that converts 1:1.. its not possible.. i dont care if the traffic is god himself.. traffic just doesnt convert like that.. ofcoarse we will look into it further, but im gonan have to say this is pretty mucha no brainer
gods credit card is maxed out so i know it isnt him , but satan has a pretty good limit and a penchant for porn

heh but yah to me because of the gaps and the obviously strange ratio ( although i dont know how your stats work , if its second page hits it is "possible" with very targetted keyword and the right site to have 10 signups from 11 hits ( although highly unlikely ) )
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gods credit card is maxed out so i know it isnt him , but satan has a pretty good limit and a penchant for porn

heh but yah to me because of the gaps and the obviously strange ratio ( although i dont know how your stats work , if its second page hits it is "possible" with very targetted keyword and the right site to have 10 signups from 11 hits ( although highly unlikely ) )

we count 1st page hits only.. and i assure you, if you put a counter on your page and a compare to our stats, they will be 99% accurate.. better than just about every other programs trackign out there..... i challenge you to test that.. send me 100 clciks and see how accurate they are.. real time too!!!!!
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infact that gives me a good idea for a promotion for you.. raise your min payout by $50 and allow affiliates 1 signup on their own credit card as a test , you could call it the "ANTI-SHAVING PROOF TEST" , no need to notify you ( thus making it a true test ) , every affiliate gets 1 chance at any point during the year to test their account with their own credit card AND get paid for it.. ( by raising the min payout its basically just like a one time $35 bonus for making the min payout )

infact any pps program that doesnt shave should try this promotion , it would be a great test.
What a rockin idea!
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