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Old 08-23-2006, 08:13 PM   #1
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Who remembers XTV / ITVN?

http://www.itvn.com

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those scumbags from ibill own them. Fuck them
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seems way over priced for the amount of channels they offer.
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discuss what?
maybe how they fucked loyal webmasters out of lots of money
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This is pretty impressive. Who run that?
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Charles Prast, Chief Executive Officer
Charles is an experienced media financier and operator of publicly traded media companies. From 1988 to 2001 he was a senior executive with leading investment banks specializing in the mass market media and video game industries.
This scumbag fuck
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Old 08-23-2006, 08:36 PM   #9
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Isn't Charles Prast the CEO of Private?
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Isn't Charles Prast the CEO of Private?
http://xbiz.com/article_piece.php?cat=47&id=5885
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Statements issued by iBill and Care Concepts over the past two weeks both also mentioned that each company had named former Private Media President and CEO Charles Prast as the new chief executive officer for the companies.
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if he had no problem fucking processing clients out of lots of money, affiliates should be a piece of cake.
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Old 08-23-2006, 08:58 PM   #14
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if he had no problem fucking processing clients out of lots of money, affiliates should be a piece of cake.
I'm not trying to get into anyone's business here with i bill i know people got screwed. I'm just saying I always got paid by XTV its a nice thing they have going. Fabian does it still make money? I messaged you on ICQ about it.
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I'm not trying to get into anyone's business here with i bill i know people got screwed. I'm just saying I always got paid by XTV its a nice thing they have going. Fabian does it still make money? I messaged you on ICQ about it.
with ibill I got paid on time for 4 yrs then it stopped. If its so ez to ruin peoples lives it will happen again. Make agreements that mean nothing, a few of them too.Until I get the 13 grand Im owed I will jump on any post those people do. So I figure I will be posting for a long time lol

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Sorry to break up the Haters but IBill is LONG GONE. They initially invested into "XTV" but since then it's a completely different ball game. Some of you will be able to read between the lines, others won't.

IPTV is the way of the future.
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Sorry to break up the Haters but IBill is LONG GONE. They initially invested into "XTV" but since then it's a completely different ball game. Some of you will be able to read between the lines, others won't.

IPTV is the way of the future.
no they own part of xtv dont tell myths
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Interactive Brand Development, Inc. (OTCBB: IBDI) is a media company that owns interests in online and offline media properties. IBDI processes online credit card payments and manages consumer databases through its wholly owned subsidiary; Internet Billing Company, LLC. IBDI owns a minority interest in Penthouse Media Group (PMG), publisher of Penthouse Magazine, a brand-driven global entertainment business founded in 1965 by Robert C. Guccione. PMGhahaha8217;s flagship PENTHOUSE hahaha8482; brand is one of the most recognized consumer brands in the world and is widely identified with premium entertainment for adult audiences. IBDI also has a minority ownership in Interactive Television Networks, Inc.(OTCBB: ITVN), formerly XTV, a video over IP new media company that broadcasts video to standard television sets and operates a pay-TV on-demand network.

I guess also XTV was so successful they had to change the name.

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Interactive Brand Development, Inc. (OTCBB: IBDI) is a media company that owns interests in online and offline media properties. IBDI processes online credit card payments and manages consumer databases through its wholly owned subsidiary; Internet Billing Company, LLC. IBDI owns a minority interest in Penthouse Media Group (PMG), publisher of Penthouse Magazine, a brand-driven global entertainment business founded in 1965 by Robert C. Guccione. PMGhahaha8217;s flagship PENTHOUSE hahaha8482; brand is one of the most recognized consumer brands in the world and is widely identified with premium entertainment for adult audiences. IBDI also has a minority ownership in Interactive Television Networks, Inc.(OTCBB: ITVN), formerly XTV, a video over IP new media company that broadcasts video to standard television sets and operates a pay-TV on-demand network.

I guess also XTV was so successful they had to change the name.
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no they own part of xtv dont tell myths
No myths. They own less than 10%, they have NOTHING to do with the business, and they suck BALLS
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Interactive Brand Development, Inc. (OTCBB: IBDI) is a media company that owns interests in online and offline media properties. IBDI processes online credit card payments and manages consumer databases through its wholly owned subsidiary; Internet Billing Company, LLC. IBDI owns a minority interest in Penthouse Media Group (PMG), publisher of Penthouse Magazine, a brand-driven global entertainment business founded in 1965 by Robert C. Guccione. PMGhahaha8217;s flagship PENTHOUSE hahaha8482; brand is one of the most recognized consumer brands in the world and is widely identified with premium entertainment for adult audiences. IBDI also has a minority ownership in Interactive Television Networks, Inc.(OTCBB: ITVN), formerly XTV, a video over IP new media company that broadcasts video to standard television sets and operates a pay-TV on-demand network.

I guess also XTV was so successful they had to change the name.
With the shares that I hold I could also form a public company and claim I have a "minority ownership" in ITVN.

Like I said, some of you will read between the lines, others will dwell ...
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No myths. They own less than 10%, they have NOTHING to do with the business, and they suck BALLS
Thats why the same guy who ran them runs xtv , stop lol
let your bosses know Tony404 says fuck you
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No myths. They own less than 10%, they have NOTHING to do with the business, and they suck BALLS
wait, you just said they are long gone...now they own 10%?

is your next post going to be about how they control some parts, but not all of it?
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wait, you just said they are long gone...now they own 10%?

is your next post going to be about how they control some parts, but not all of it?
Honesty must not be part of the corporate culture lol
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Thats why the same guy who ran them runs xtv , stop lol
let your bosses know Tony404 says fuck you
Charles Prast, ITVN's CEO, was the CEO for Private and then ran IBD for a short time. He left during the whole fiasco because ITVN offered him a job. I told him and he said "tony who?"

Simple as that ...
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wait, you just said they are long gone...now they own 10%?

is your next post going to be about how they control some parts, but not all of it?
Yes, they're long gone on a couple of different levels. First, they used to own nearly 20% of the company. Now it's less than 10% (and less as time continues). Second, they have ZERO control of our business.
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Charles Prast, ITVN's CEO, was the CEO for Private and then ran IBD for a short time. He left during the whole fiasco because ITVN offered him a job. I told him and he said "tony who?"

Simple as that ...
Oh course money is owed to means nothing to them figured.Their checks clear scumbags.Its all the same company god, I hope nobody ever fucks you like I got fucked.
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I am sorry, I do not have any updates at this time regarding the settlement payouts. However, I do know that there are clients that we are converting to stock of XTV. The stock symbol is ITTV.OB. Please take a look at the option of the stock, as that would make you a secured creditor. I just do not know when those settlement deals will be back and I really don?t want you to have to wait any longer. The stock has a hold on it until May and then you can sell it..



Keep me posted on your thoughts.



Michelle

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this email was from 3/8/06 so tell me how they have nothing to do with each other. Bullshit.
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I am sorry, I do not have any updates at this time regarding the settlement payouts. However, I do know that there are clients that we are converting to stock of XTV. The stock symbol is ITTV.OB. Please take a look at the option of the stock, as that would make you a secured creditor. I just do not know when those settlement deals will be back and I really don?t want you to have to wait any longer. The stock has a hold on it until May and then you can sell it..



Keep me posted on your thoughts.



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this email was from 3/8/06 so tell me how they have nothing to do with each other. Bullshit.
Tell me how this says they HAVE something to do with us? They used to own nearly 20%, now they own 10% ... the decrease probably has to do with them giving up their stock so they don't end up swimming with the fish.
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I am sorry, I do not have any updates at this time regarding the settlement payouts. However, I do know that there are clients that we are converting to stock of XTV. The stock symbol is ITTV.OB. Please take a look at the option of the stock, as that would make you a secured creditor. I just do not know when those settlement deals will be back and I really don?t want you to have to wait any longer. The stock has a hold on it until May and then you can sell it..



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this email was from 3/8/06 so tell me how they have nothing to do with each other. Bullshit.
OMFG

hahahahahhahaha

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OMFG

hahahahahhahaha

so fucking owned
Settle down Jace ... I know you've been waiting to say "owned" but you busted your nut a little too quick.
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Tell me how this says they HAVE something to do with us? They used to own nearly 20%, now they own 10% ... the decrease probably has to do with them giving up their stock so they don't end up swimming with the fish.
god love icq history would you like me to start posting my conversations with my rep at the time. Talking about xtv being a new project the management was working on and then the emails sent to Charles about me and they were ignored . So she gave me his direct line at ibill.Then it refreshed my memory how I spoke to him on the phone and how he said it would be handled and he would talk to my rep to get me setup. It never happened. Imagine that.
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I was those scumbags biggest fan and they fucked me including charlie
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Settle down Jace ... I know you've been waiting to say "owned" but you busted your nut a little too quick.
um...i think this is the first time I have ever said owned on this board, oh wait, I have said it twice on the this board...do a search if you like

fact is, ibill owes money, they offered shares of ITTV.OB..now explain to me how a company that barely owns anything in ITTV.OB can offer shares of their stock?

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god love icq history would you like me to start posting my conversations with my rep at the time. Talking about xtv being a new project the management was working on and then the emails sent to Charles about me and they were ignored . So she gave me his direct line at ibill.Then it refreshed my memory how I spoke to him on the phone and how he said it would be handled and he would talk to my rep to get me setup. It never happened. Imagine that.
I have no doubt they envisioned XTV as being part of their Savior ... unfortunately the share they owned in XTV and the success of XTV at the time couldn't bring IBill back from the grave. Imagine if XTV brought IBill MILLIONS of $$$ back then and everyone got paid. You'd be dancing a different song right now. The fact is IBill is continually losing its share in ITVN (apparently by giving away it?s share to people it owes $$) and they've been out of the equation for some time now.

I can't answer for Charles but the emails probably went un-answered because he was too busy leaving the sinking ship.
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um...i think this is the first time I have ever said owned on this board, oh wait, I have said it twice on the this board...do a search if you like

fact is, ibill owes money, they offered shares of ITTV.OB..now explain to me how a company that barely owns anything in ITTV.OB can offer shares of their stock?

Are you reading all my posts?
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I have no doubt they envisioned XTV as being part of their Savior ... unfortunately the share they owned in XTV and the success of XTV at the time couldn't bring IBill back from the grave. Imagine if XTV brought IBill MILLIONS of $$$ back then and everyone got paid. You'd be dancing a different song right now. The fact is IBill is continually losing its share in ITVN (apparently by giving away it?s share to people it owes $$) and they've been out of the equation for some time now.

I can't answer for Charles but the emails probably went un-answered because he was too busy leaving the sinking ship.
he didnt leave, he changed departments and I spoke to him on the phone when he was there.bullshit again.
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he didnt leave, he changed departments and I spoke to him on the phone when he was there.bullshit again.
Like I said I can answer for him so I'm not sure of what happened during the time he was with IBD. However I know he thinks they suck balls. You say "again" ... where's the "first"?
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He was president of xtv Jan 2005 and my conversation with him at ibill was in feb. So he was running both at the same time. If you like I post the pcmag article from 1/05.
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Like I said I can answer for him so I'm not sure of what happened during the time he was with IBD. However I know he thinks they suck balls. You say "again" ... where's the "first"?
Well he fucked me just as hard as they did. I can post all the icq's going back and forth failed promises. Not returning calls. I will never forget, colors dont change.
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I'm curious as to whether or not anybody is even reading Fabian's replies.
You still drinking your Jack's & cokes? Guess you're reading my replies.
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what is there to read ? Are you reading mine they are not made up they are aritcles or a email.
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He was president of xtv Jan 2005 and my conversation with him at ibill was in feb. So he was running both at the same time. If you like I post the pcmag article from 1/05.
Jan 2005 we did our soft launch at AVN. That's the first time that David K (co-founder) and I met Charles. Him leaving IBill and coming to work for XTV was right around the same time. I'm sure he didn't respond to emails, he could give a fuck about Ibill and their problems.
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Jan 2005 we did our soft launch at AVN. That's the first time that David K (co-founder) and I met Charles. Him leaving IBill and coming to work for XTV was right around the same time. I'm sure he didn't respond to emails, he could give a fuck about Ibill and their problems.
One more time I spoke to him on the phone he made promises,I even have his cell from that time. Do you not know how to read?
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hehe, to be honest, the only reason I care is because Tony is one of my good friends, other than that I have no vested interest in either ibill or xtv...I just liek to argue about shit I know nothing about

so....here ya go

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Jan 2005 we did our soft launch at AVN. That's the first time that David K (co-founder) and I met Charles. Him leaving IBill and coming to work for XTV was right around the same time. I'm sure he didn't respond to emails, he could give a fuck about Ibill and their problems.
He wasnt leaving anywhere in Feb 2005 my rep spoke to me about the new xtv project the management company was working on.
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what is there to read ? Are you reading mine they are not made up they are aritcles or a email.
Of course I'm reading yours.

This is what I've concluded ... You got fucked by Ibill. Many people got fucked by Ibill. When XTV first started Ibill invested money into XTV. People were still pissed at Ibill AND also at XTV. Since then XTV has transformed itself into ITVN. The shares owned by Ibill have been (as reported by you) diluted to the people it owed money to ... Charles avoided you (and all other Ibill problems) on his way out of the Ibill business.

ITVN is a public company leading the way with IPTV and offers a way for affiliates to make BANK.

Check out the ratios for http://www.itvncash.com

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Of course I'm reading yours.

This is what I've concluded ... You got fucked by Ibill. Many people got fucked by Ibill. When XTV first started Ibill invested money into XTV. People were still pissed at Ibill AND also at XTV. Since then XTV has transformed itself into ITVN. The shares owned by Ibill have been (as reported by you) diluted to the people it owed money to ... Charles avoided you (and all other Ibill problems) on his way out of the Ibill business.

ITVN is a public company leading the way with IPTV and offers a way for affiliates to make BANK.

Check out the ratios for http://www.itvncash.com

You missed the part about Charles talking to me on the phone saying it would be handled. Considering what your saying that is twice as creepy actually.
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Of course I'm reading yours.

This is what I've concluded ... You got fucked by Ibill. Many people got fucked by Ibill. When XTV first started Ibill invested money into XTV. People were still pissed at Ibill AND also at XTV. Since then XTV has transformed itself into ITVN. The shares owned by Ibill have been (as reported by you) diluted to the people it owed money to ... Charles avoided you (and all other Ibill problems) on his way out of the Ibill business.
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Also dont believe you they are separate,thats the company line I guess.
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