does $1 trials sell better then say $4.99 trials? - GoFuckYourself.com

kanalj · 05-03-2006, 11:21 AM

well, topic says it all. should be logical but is it?

VIPimp · 05-03-2006, 11:21 AM

nope
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mechanicvirus · 05-03-2006, 11:24 AM

Depends on who you are targetting, but at that price $5 is still cheap.

David - PG · 05-03-2006, 11:27 AM

Does a Toyota sell better than a Porsche?

Snake Doctor · 05-03-2006, 11:31 AM

A cheaper trial will always get you more joins, but it won't always make you more money.
You have to experiment and find the "sweet spot"

CamJack · 05-03-2006, 11:33 AM

We noticed a 15% increase in trials going from $4.87 to $2.87 so I would say definately yes on the $1 joins.

WiredGuy · 05-03-2006, 11:34 AM

It will sell more trials joins, whether those trials recur for the full membership or not, I don't imagine it would be any better.
WG

Cash · 05-03-2006, 11:45 AM

Do this experiment: promote the sites of Platinum Bucks - $35/trial or 80% , they have the option of $1 or $4.95 per trial for the same sites (papyout to webmasters is also a bit different), so you can see how it converts with one payment option or another ...

thricer · 05-03-2006, 11:47 AM

I think it's selling better...

Babs Bunny · 05-03-2006, 11:49 AM

For me the 1.00 joins have been a great success.

tranza · 05-03-2006, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2

A cheaper trial will always get you more joins, but it won't always make you more money.
You have to experiment and find the "sweet spot"

Agreed.

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RayBonga · 05-03-2006, 11:53 AM

The real question is will it sell 5 times better?

Niki · 05-03-2006, 12:02 PM

the best trials are $29.95 ;)

Tom_PM · 05-03-2006, 12:08 PM

I usually advise people to consider their competition, consider the niche, and consider how much of a captive audience they have ie:traffic source.

Antonio · 05-03-2006, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niki

the best trials are $29.95 ;)

bingo !

MikesTraffic · 05-03-2006, 12:11 PM

I just sold a 10 dollar trial that converted for a 40 dollar signup, so i made like 45 bucks and its going to recurr :P Top BUCKS ROCKS!!!!

Sams_gfy · 05-03-2006, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2

A cheaper trial will always get you more joins, but it won't always make you more money.

kanalj · 05-03-2006, 12:28 PM

thanks guy's, I went for the $4.99 in todays update ;)

madawgz · 05-03-2006, 12:47 PM

yes...1$ trials convert better

sfera · 05-03-2006, 12:56 PM

i think it would sell better

MikesTraffic · 05-03-2006, 01:13 PM

All Depends on what you are pushing, top bucks seems to be one of the best companies out their right now

davethetruth · 05-03-2006, 01:18 PM

I've only gotten like 2 sales with $4.99 trials, but I've gotten 100's with the $1 or $1.99

bigdog · 05-03-2006, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by geoGUERILLA

We noticed a 15% increase in trials going from $4.87 to $2.87 so I would say definately yes on the $1 joins.

That is nice increase. Hopefully they stay beyond the trial period.

djroof · 05-03-2006, 04:37 PM

I use 1$ trials and I am ok from sales!

After Shock Media · 05-03-2006, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geoGUERILLA

We noticed a 15% increase in trials going from $4.87 to $2.87 so I would say definately yes on the $1 joins.

My math brain my be shut off today but wouldnt that really become an overall dip in revenue.

For instance if you were doing 100 trials a day.
4.98 @ 100 a day = 498.00 per day in trials.
2.98 @ 115 a day = 342.70 per day in trials. (15% increase already added).

Resulting in a 68.8% loss.

Edit fuck, I put 4.98 and 2.98 instead of 4.87 and 2.87. Oh well you catch my drift either way.

bdld · 05-03-2006, 05:03 PM

ratios go WAY up by switching to $1 trials. i've seen it make a big difference.

Scott McD · 05-03-2006, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2

A cheaper trial will always get you more joins, but it won't always make you more money.
You have to experiment and find the "sweet spot"

Yep, agree with that.

I always had mixed results, and still switch between them every so often...

ANAL PASTE · 05-03-2006, 05:13 PM

I like free trials, thats why I promote Weg Cash

VicD · 05-03-2006, 05:16 PM

I like full joins, forget the trials

alan-l · 05-03-2006, 05:18 PM

no. maybe it could happen with some sites, but as a rule of thumb, 4.99 or $1 don't make a difference

alan-l · 05-03-2006, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

My math brain my be shut off today but wouldnt that really become an overall dip in revenue.

For instance if you were doing 100 trials a day.
4.98 @ 100 a day = 498.00 per day in trials.
2.98 @ 115 a day = 342.70 per day in trials. (15% increase already added).

Resulting in a 68.8% loss.

Edit fuck, I put 4.98 and 2.98 instead of 4.87 and 2.87. Oh well you catch my drift either way.

I get your point, but you're missing the fact that trials will eventually recur, so 15% is good. ie, take those 100 sales per 29.95= 2995 as 115*2995= 3444.25

Still, in my experience when a horny surfer is looking for porn, the problem is to make him take the wallet off his pocket. Once you got him, $1 or $4.90 won't make a difference. Still, I'm all for the non trial unless your content is absolutely great. That from a site owner POV, of course. When it's another program's site, trials are great, and ALWAYS promote per SU

vanillaice · 05-03-2006, 06:00 PM

Hmm, for an affiliate, i've always wondered what would be teh best payout.

Using Pimproll because they have 3 different options...

If my math is right, you need:

A 10-12ish% increase in sales going from $4.99 to $2.99 to be worth it
A 22-24% increase in sales going from $2.99 to $1.00 to be worth it

Just using a small sample like 25 sales for $30 PPS you'll get $750
In order to get $750+ with the $27.5, you need 28 sales (12%)
In order to get $750+ with the $25, you need 31 sales (24%)

With a larger scale, the number lowers.. for example...

100 sales = $3,000
$2.99 option = 110 sales = $3,025 = 10%
$1.00 option = 120 sales = $3,000 = 20%

1,000 sales = $30k
$2.99 option = 1,091 sales = 9%
$1.00 option = 1,200 sales = 20%

So even in large numbers you'll still need to pull a 20% increase if you drop down $5 PPS with any drop.

If my math is wrong feel free to correct me, i'm curious to find the best options as well.

bigdog · 05-04-2006, 02:27 AM

good biz thread that is going on here

05-03-2006, 11:21 AM	#1
kanalj Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 639	does $1 trials sell better then say $4.99 trials? well, topic says it all. should be logical but is it? __________________ I made that back in the days!

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05-03-2006, 11:34 AM	#7
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05-03-2006, 11:21 AM	#2
VIPimp Marina WILL have my babies! Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 9,234	nope ____

05-03-2006, 11:24 AM	#3
mechanicvirus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 3,892	Depends on who you are targetting, but at that price $5 is still cheap.

05-03-2006, 11:45 AM	#8
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05-03-2006, 11:47 AM	#9
thricer Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,324	I think it's selling better... __________________ None So

05-03-2006, 11:49 AM	#10
Babs Bunny Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 6	For me the 1.00 joins have been a great success.

05-03-2006, 11:53 AM	#12
RayBonga too cool for highschool Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: East side, West side, Worldwide! Posts: 12,164	The real question is will it sell 5 times better?

05-03-2006, 12:02 PM	#13
Niki Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,476	the best trials are $29.95 ;) __________________ Ivo

05-03-2006, 12:08 PM	#14
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MikesTraffic Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Montgomery, Alabama Posts: 1,992	I just sold a 10 dollar trial that converted for a 40 dollar signup, so i made like 45 bucks and its going to recurr :P Top BUCKS ROCKS!!!! __________________ Fortinet GURU

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kanalj Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 639	thanks guy's, I went for the $4.99 in todays update ;) __________________ I made that back in the days!

05-03-2006, 12:47 PM	#19
madawgz 8.8.8.8 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noordermarkt Posts: 30,509	yes...1$ trials convert better __________________ TAEMDLRMSKRJIXMRLSMRJ.

05-03-2006, 12:56 PM	#20
sfera Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: ICQ: 248877409 Posts: 8,597	i think it would sell better

05-03-2006, 01:13 PM	#21
MikesTraffic Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Montgomery, Alabama Posts: 1,992	All Depends on what you are pushing, top bucks seems to be one of the best companies out their right now __________________ Fortinet GURU

05-03-2006, 01:18 PM	#22
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05-03-2006, 04:37 PM	#24
djroof JuicyDevils.gr Owner Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Greece Posts: 25,405	I use 1$ trials and I am ok from sales!

05-03-2006, 05:03 PM	#26
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	ratios go WAY up by switching to $1 trials. i've seen it make a big difference.

05-03-2006, 05:13 PM	#28
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05-03-2006, 05:16 PM	#29
VicD ICQ: 304-611-162 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Masterdam Posts: 13,245	I like full joins, forget the trials

05-03-2006, 05:18 PM	#30
alan-l Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: look behind you Posts: 2,477	no. maybe it could happen with some sites, but as a rule of thumb, 4.99 or $1 don't make a difference

05-03-2006, 06:00 PM	#32
vanillaice Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 512	Hmm, for an affiliate, i've always wondered what would be teh best payout. Using Pimproll because they have 3 different options... If my math is right, you need: A 10-12ish% increase in sales going from $4.99 to $2.99 to be worth it A 22-24% increase in sales going from $2.99 to $1.00 to be worth it Just using a small sample like 25 sales for $30 PPS you'll get $750 In order to get $750+ with the $27.5, you need 28 sales (12%) In order to get $750+ with the $25, you need 31 sales (24%) With a larger scale, the number lowers.. for example... 100 sales = $3,000 $2.99 option = 110 sales = $3,025 = 10% $1.00 option = 120 sales = $3,000 = 20% 1,000 sales = $30k $2.99 option = 1,091 sales = 9% $1.00 option = 1,200 sales = 20% So even in large numbers you'll still need to pull a 20% increase if you drop down $5 PPS with any drop. If my math is wrong feel free to correct me, i'm curious to find the best options as well.

05-04-2006, 02:27 AM	#33
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	good biz thread that is going on here