What good or bad does free porn do? - GoFuckYourself.com

Paul Markham · 05-02-2006, 01:58 AM

Firstly let me state my side. I've never worried about free porn. Not when I sold videos via mail order or only shot for magazines. It's there and worrying about it gets you nowhere.

So what damage does it do to us on the Internet?

Over all not a lot is my POV.

Simply because of the amount of money it costs to put it out there and the return we have to get to justify this investment means we have to be making money from it.

We are small sponsors but what I'm fast realising is the major commitment to driving traffic to the site, most of which requires CONTENT, so it's still KING , this content needs preparing, hosting, then the affiliates needed to spread it out to the 100s of 1,000s of surfers.

All this costs money. Money for hosting, servers, bandwidth, staff to organise it, affiliate programs, affiliate payouts, time on the boards, promotion to affiliates all cost money. Do you really believe if it all disappeared tomorrow the free loaders could supply it P2P? No way could they supply the free porn addicts.

Or do you believe the numbers of people signing up would increase in a great numbers?

I do not believe it would help in the long term. The surfers who survive on what they get for free are not our target market. They are yet to be addicted to porn enough to warrant them spending $1 a day for it. Will they get there being fed free porn?

Look at the costs of supplying it and you quickly see enough do to fund the free porn merry go round.

IMO the only way to compete with free porn is to supply a product worth $1 a day. Some do have a problem doing that. Others don't.

Chrome · 05-02-2006, 02:15 AM

hm... on my side the free porn makes it difficult for new guys to get into the game. that's probably a good thing for veterans but it makes it exceedingly difficult to get noticed in this sea of jizz fodder. the worst thing about the free stuff is it ends up in so much spam and utlimately will force legislation against internet available porn. but, on the other end i know plenty of people making good money doing this stuff so i'm kind of "on the fence" on this issue.

Paul Markham · 05-02-2006, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chrome

hm... on my side the free porn makes it difficult for new guys to get into the game. that's probably a good thing for veterans but it makes it exceedingly difficult to get noticed in this sea of jizz fodder. the worst thing about the free stuff is it ends up in so much spam and utlimately will force legislation against internet available porn. but, on the other end i know plenty of people making good money doing this stuff so i'm kind of "on the fence" on this issue.

Free porn is exactly what lets 100s of affiliates into the game every day. How many would learn enough, fast enough and well enough before their money ran out if they had to finance themselves?

But if you meant paysites, the days of starting a paysite with less than $20,00 are long gone.

Well you can start one, but making money with it is very unlikely.

Welcome to the business world.

Theo The Theologian · 05-02-2006, 02:25 AM

Bless you Brother Paul who sticks fingers in his models, free porn gives me a God like erection.

No bad in that.

xenigo · 05-02-2006, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chrome

the worst thing about the free stuff is it ends up in so much spam and utlimately will force legislation against internet available porn.

What the hell are you talking about, dude?

2HousePlague · 05-02-2006, 02:28 AM

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abyss_al · 05-02-2006, 02:30 AM

free porn = advertising

if its good, people will pay

Theo The Theologian · 05-02-2006, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 2HousePlague

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BusterBunny · 05-02-2006, 02:33 AM

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Paul Markham · 05-02-2006, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Theo The Theologian

Bless you Brother Paul who sticks fingers in his models, free porn gives me a God like erection.

No bad in that.

She made me do it.

I lost my watch that day.

But back to the serious conversation.

Chrome · 05-02-2006, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by xenigo

What the hell are you talking about, dude?

LMAO... that's intelligent

Chrome · 05-02-2006, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Free porn is exactly what lets 100s of affiliates into the game every day. How many would learn enough, fast enough and well enough before their money ran out if they had to finance themselves?

But if you meant paysites, the days of starting a paysite with less than $20,00 are long gone.

Well you can start one, but making money with it is very unlikely.

Welcome to the business world.

are you winking at me?

Heh.. obviously you know this is a loaded topic on a volatile forum. I posted a basic neutral response just to see how it would get bent.

nofx · 05-02-2006, 02:44 AM

I look at is just how our own class system works

free porn is for the lower class and underage. and as you said, not our target audience.

$1/day paysites are for the upper and middle class.

Paul Markham · 05-02-2006, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by abyss_al

free porn = advertising

if its good, people will pay

If it's good people will sign up after seeing it for free.

polish_aristocrat · 05-02-2006, 03:40 AM

good (?) = making money to submitters and tgp owners

good = promoting certain paysites and porn brands, getting them better recognition among potential customers

bad = descreasing the overall profits and conversion ratios in the industry, allowing millions of people to have their daily portion of porn wihout paying anything for it ever

05-02-2006, 01:58 AM	#1
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	What good or bad does free porn do? Firstly let me state my side. I've never worried about free porn. Not when I sold videos via mail order or only shot for magazines. It's there and worrying about it gets you nowhere. So what damage does it do to us on the Internet? Over all not a lot is my POV. Simply because of the amount of money it costs to put it out there and the return we have to get to justify this investment means we have to be making money from it. We are small sponsors but what I'm fast realising is the major commitment to driving traffic to the site, most of which requires CONTENT, so it's still KING , this content needs preparing, hosting, then the affiliates needed to spread it out to the 100s of 1,000s of surfers. All this costs money. Money for hosting, servers, bandwidth, staff to organise it, affiliate programs, affiliate payouts, time on the boards, promotion to affiliates all cost money. Do you really believe if it all disappeared tomorrow the free loaders could supply it P2P? No way could they supply the free porn addicts. Or do you believe the numbers of people signing up would increase in a great numbers? I do not believe it would help in the long term. The surfers who survive on what they get for free are not our target market. They are yet to be addicted to porn enough to warrant them spending $1 a day for it. Will they get there being fed free porn? Look at the costs of supplying it and you quickly see enough do to fund the free porn merry go round. IMO the only way to compete with free porn is to supply a product worth $1 a day. Some do have a problem doing that. Others don't. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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05-02-2006, 02:15 AM	#2
Chrome Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Oregon Posts: 639	hm... on my side the free porn makes it difficult for new guys to get into the game. that's probably a good thing for veterans but it makes it exceedingly difficult to get noticed in this sea of jizz fodder. the worst thing about the free stuff is it ends up in so much spam and utlimately will force legislation against internet available porn. but, on the other end i know plenty of people making good money doing this stuff so i'm kind of "on the fence" on this issue.

05-02-2006, 02:44 AM	#13
nofx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Virgin Mary's womb Posts: 16,826	I look at is just how our own class system works free porn is for the lower class and underage. and as you said, not our target audience. $1/day paysites are for the upper and middle class. __________________ Often times I wonder why There's love and hate, theres live or die. When sickness comes I must decide: When feelings go, theres suicide.

05-02-2006, 03:40 AM	#15
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	good (?) = making money to submitters and tgp owners good = promoting certain paysites and porn brands, getting them better recognition among potential customers bad = descreasing the overall profits and conversion ratios in the industry, allowing millions of people to have their daily portion of porn wihout paying anything for it ever __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.