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mrkris · 05-01-2006, 05:07 PM

I've sent messages/emails with no response. My sales have dropped to virtually nothing, and found out that your site isn't tracking my clicks. My traffic is awesome. What's going on?

dissipate · 05-01-2006, 05:08 PM

Shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaving

Peter_ANYwebcam · 05-01-2006, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrkris

I've sent messages/emails with no response. My sales have dropped to virtually nothing, and found out that your site isn't tracking my clicks. My traffic is awesome. What's going on?

We are having the same problem with them, I have sent emails and contacted them via ICQ and not one reply.

beta-tester · 05-01-2006, 05:29 PM

Same here....lower click tracking, ono sales, it sucks....

BlingDaddy · 05-01-2006, 05:31 PM

Looking for the previous 10 threads adressing this......

mrkris · 05-01-2006, 05:35 PM

Yeah. I was converting Oxpass at 1:5 to 1:10 give or take, and no it shows me as sending 4 clicks to it LAST PERIOD TOTAL, with no sales. Yeah, something is wrong.

markyman · 05-01-2006, 06:02 PM

I have to agree something is up, My sales have dropped to almost 0 in the last 8 days, usually average 2-3 signups a day. something is wacked

BlingDaddy · 05-01-2006, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrkris

Yeah. I was converting Oxpass at 1:5 to 1:10 give or take, and no it shows me as sending 4 clicks to it LAST PERIOD TOTAL, with no sales. Yeah, something is wrong.

I'm still trying to figure this out... 4 clicks in a period?

mrkris · 05-01-2006, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BlingDaddy

I'm still trying to figure this out... 4 clicks in a period?

sorry, i was wrong, 7 clicks to oxpass, last period. Total clicks to all sites last period: 223.

BlingDaddy · 05-01-2006, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mrkris

sorry, i was wrong, 7 clicks to oxpass, last period. Total clicks to all sites last period: 223.

Gotcha... uniques? Or Raw? And shit... if you were doing 1:10 you should be a millionaire.

JD · 05-01-2006, 06:39 PM

same problem here. fuck bangbros. I'm dropping them entirely

BlingDaddy · 05-01-2006, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

same problem here. fuck bangbros. I'm dropping them entirely

Jordan said the 5000 uniques I sent didn't convert because it was "Spring Break". Guess I shoulda sent it elsewhere....

JD · 05-01-2006, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlingDaddy

Jordan said the 5000 uniques I sent didn't convert because it was "Spring Break". Guess I shoulda sent it elsewhere....

Splum · 05-01-2006, 06:46 PM

Would they really fuck over affiliates this badly on purpose?

BlingDaddy · 05-01-2006, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

Lesson learned. I have thought about blocking BBO gallys from my sites, but... whatever.

JD · 05-01-2006, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum

Would they really fuck over affiliates this badly on purpose?

why wouldn't they? They're big enough to not give a damn about smaller (>10sales/day) affiliates.

Dirty F · 05-01-2006, 06:57 PM

I think its safe to say after reading this thread and others that there is something seriously wrong over there.

Dirty F · 05-01-2006, 06:58 PM

Hmm my stats show 0 clicks.

BlingDaddy · 05-01-2006, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck

I think its safe to say after reading this thread and others that there is something seriously wrong over there.

Agreed -

V_RocKs · 05-01-2006, 07:15 PM

I think it is safe to say they obviously don't give a shit...

If I had a gross income of over $20,000 a day I think I'd pay some 18yo fuck nut in college a grand sum of $65 a day just to check this forum before and after classes and let me know when I am missing something...

A free option? Well, there are several services that will let you know when bangbros is mentioned in a thread title... etc...

Really fucking rediculous... When I bitch about some programs like Twisty's I get an instant response from Shap... I bet he is getting an email about this thread 15 minutes after I post it.... Shap, can you show Bangbros how it is done?

JD · 05-01-2006, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

I think it is safe to say they obviously don't give a shit...

If I had a gross income of over $20,000 a day I think I'd pay some 18yo fuck nut in college a grand sum of $65 a day just to check this forum before and after classes and let me know when I am missing something...

A free option? Well, there are several services that will let you know when bangbros is mentioned in a thread title... etc...

Really fucking rediculous... When I bitch about some programs like Twisty's I get an instant response from Shap... I bet he is getting an email about this thread 15 minutes after I post it.... Shap, can you show Bangbros how it is done?

I'm investing $xx,xxx in a few projects this week and I'm sure as shit not going to include a single BangBros site in the mix. Most likely not going to include Nasty Dollars/oxcash in it either since they're the same guys. There's plenty of other programs that will treat me/my sites like they deserve to be treated.

CyberHustler · 05-01-2006, 07:28 PM

should i take them out my sig?

sfera · 05-01-2006, 07:30 PM

http://www.bangbrosonline.com/referral=sfera/

MarkMan · 05-01-2006, 07:33 PM

oh boy.. that's the fastest way to loose money.. get your webmaster program get plastered all over the boards as a non paying/shaving sponsor

JD · 05-01-2006, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkMan

oh boy.. that's the fastest way to loose money.. get your webmaster program get plastered all over the boards as a non paying/shaving sponsor

BBros is like micro$oft. no matter how shitty they are, people won't ever stop using them

mrkris · 05-01-2006, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

BBros is like micro$oft. no matter how shitty they are, people won't ever stop using them

Agreed. Sad also.

mrkris · 05-01-2006, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlingDaddy

Gotcha... uniques? Or Raw? And shit... if you were doing 1:10 you should be a millionaire.

Millionaire? no. I didn't send them THAT much traffic, but if you ask Sperminator, the traffic I sent was highly targeted and converted like crazy.

JD · 05-01-2006, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrkris

Millionaire? no. I didn't send them THAT much traffic, but if you ask Sperminator, the traffic I sent was highly targeted and converted like crazy.

yup. converted like he was giving the shit away

Nismo · 05-01-2006, 09:00 PM

Weird. I'm 1:168 today so far and haven't had any problems except my ratio slipping last payperiod.

Peter_ANYwebcam · 05-01-2006, 09:24 PM

last period we sent 2204 clicks they recorded 783 Raws!

edgeprod · 05-01-2006, 09:44 PM

They're fucking cheating their balls off. I contacted them SEVERAL times about this, and they have IGNORED the threads. Sent an email to Jordan, AS REQUESTED in one of the threads, got NOTHING.

It's bullshit. You can't do anything about it, because they're a top sponsor -- you know the deal.

edgeprod · 05-01-2006, 09:58 PM

Here are the threads where I did my noob-bitching, and got no response (well, besides Jordan asking for an email, then ignoring it):

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/506619-program-paid.html
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/591901-wtf-wrong-bangbros.html
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/591900-wtf-wrong-bangbros.html

My *original* contact was with Penn, which was *also* useless.

From pipecrew in the other thread: "oxcash has been paying everyweek for years. You either did not reach a minimum payment or you were terminated from the program for something.. Feel free to email me and i will look for it.. jordan at oxideas.com"

So, I sent the email, and said:

Quote:

Hard to believe or not, it took 20+ phone calls and many emails to get no check, despite a promise from the brass over there.

We sent 800,000+ clicks. They claimed their billing solution didn't process our signups, despite the fact that the billing provider (epoch, at the time) showed signups and rebills, yet Ox Cash's system didn't. They showed $50 on 800,000 clicks; it was laughable.

We called, complained, got a promise to follow up, got an excuse about affiliates trying to cheat, got another promise, no check, another follow up, an excuse about having problems with Epoch, etc, etc, and then no check again. Nada to this date (almost a year later). I don't really care, to be honest. It was only 6 hours worth of traffic -- if our servers had been down for that period, it would have been the same net result. *shrug*

I've never heard of OxCash cheating ANYONE, so it really surprised me. It was probably only a few thousand dollars (well, not including rebills) so it's not really a big deal. I think they're 99% reputable, but the thread is about being cheated -- and we were.

Carol sent me this in 2003:

Quote:

----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
To: <xxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 9:20 AM
Subject: [AFFILOC #6055]: Professionalism

> Hello,
>
> I have passed your message over to Penn.
>
> Thank you,
> Carol Santiago
> Account Representative

I then called Penn. He said it'd be fixed. Nada. Next, I followed up again:

Quote:

I guess you didn't feel like following up any further?

--
Domenic R. Merenda
Vice President, Business Development
Edge Productions, Inc.
http://www.edgeprod.com

----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 8:40 AM
Subject: [AFFILOC #6055]: Professionalism

> Hello,
>
> What is your affiliate id and password.
>
> Carol Santiago
> Account Representative

Finally, I sent a kiss-off .. the explanation I posted was: "Here's the "kiss off" email to Penn, after sending over 800,000 clicks to the program, seeing people sign up on Epoch's side, and seeing nothing on OxCash's side. After this, the Epoch account was emptied (down to one signup showing, then to zero) and the OxCash account password was changed. Hopefully, this helps you get some perspective on the situation. We sent 820,000 clicks to the program, documented by their own system. *shrug* Penn had a decent explaination over the phone, though: apparently, a lot of affiliates will cheat clicks through, and then demand payment. Still, it sucked how we ended up not working with them going forward -- they converted thousands of signups for us (granted, we didn't get the money), which is an AWESOME ratio."

And the kiss-off was (edited to make it shorter):

Quote:

Penn,

I've left you numerous messages at this point, and I cannot continue to follow up with someone who is not going to return a phone call. You and I had an understanding that you were to contact me within a week concerning the underproductive nature of the traffic we sent you, or the misreporting of the stats, whichever the case may have been. I would have expected you to at least do the professional thing and return a phonecall. Compounding this issue, we sent 821,205 clicks in a short space of time, and even that didn't rate us a call back or an email.

Thanks anyway for the time you initally spent.

Still no response. Not to threads here, not to emails, I haven't (and won't) get shit.

Just change your links to a program that cares.

cranki · 05-01-2006, 10:02 PM

drama evolving?

edgeprod · 05-01-2006, 10:14 PM

doubtful

JD · 05-01-2006, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod

Just change your links to a program that cares.

working on that right now

mrkris · 05-01-2006, 10:48 PM

Yup. I'm moving an entire site I had dedicated to BBO to someone else. Gotta decide who though.

mrkris · 05-01-2006, 10:48 PM

BTW, what's the point of having support if they don't answer their ICQ's. SUP JORDAN

kmanrox · 05-01-2006, 10:52 PM

i jerked off on the phone with mrkris before

JD · 05-01-2006, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox

i jerked off on the phone with mrkris before

haven't we all?

mrkris · 05-01-2006, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox

i jerked off on the phone with mrkris before

v4 media · 05-01-2006, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrkris

BTW, what's the point of having support if they don't answer their ICQ's. SUP JORDAN

3 day holiday weekend maybe?

georgeyw · 05-01-2006, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrkris

BTW, what's the point of having support if they don't answer their ICQ's. SUP JORDAN

they have support?

bdld · 05-01-2006, 11:39 PM

just checked my stats for the last period, nothing seems out of the ordinary for me.

L-Pink · 05-01-2006, 11:45 PM

The butts on the girls on their enter page are much to large ...

I had to throw in a negative also ...

.

redfrog · 05-02-2006, 12:02 AM

hell yeah , i sent 2200 uniqes, and got 0$ , the last month was like a big zero sales with them

edgeprod · 05-02-2006, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by redfrog

hell yeah , i sent 2200 uniqes, and got 0$ , the last month was like a big zero sales with them

No offense, but that isn't enough traffic to know how their conversions are. 10 sales in a row could have been right around the corner.

I got $50 from 820,000 clicks. That's a better indicator. Especially since it turned around and did a 1:80 ratio with SexKey, TopBucks, etc. and did awesome with PPC like Sex.com, TopCash (when that existed for porn), and others. It's a bad example, though .. Epoch recorded TONS of sales on those clicks, but Bang Bros never showed it on their end. "We're working on this -- we've heard it from several people, and are trying to get a fix" was what I kept hearing over and over .. they even posted it in the "affiliate news" section.

Just remove their links and move on. They have enough webmasters, and make enough money -- they don't care about you, or anyone else, really.

Again -- no offense.

Krille · 05-02-2006, 12:23 AM

yeah something is up with bangbros, 2nd period of last month sucked goatass

mrkris · 05-02-2006, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod

No offense, but that isn't enough traffic to know how their conversions are. 10 sales in a row could have been right around the corner.

I got $50 from 820,000 clicks. That's a better indicator. Especially since it turned around and did a 1:80 ratio with SexKey, TopBucks, etc. and did awesome with PPC like Sex.com, TopCash (when that existed for porn), and others. It's a bad example, though .. Epoch recorded TONS of sales on those clicks, but Bang Bros never showed it on their end. "We're working on this -- we've heard it from several people, and are trying to get a fix" was what I kept hearing over and over .. they even posted it in the "affiliate news" section.

Just remove their links and move on. They have enough webmasters, and make enough money -- they don't care about you, or anyone else, really.

Again -- no offense.

Now I know and knowing is half the battle.

V_RocKs · 05-02-2006, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

I'm investing $xx,xxx in a few projects this week and I'm sure as shit not going to include a single BangBros site in the mix. Most likely not going to include Nasty Dollars/oxcash in it either since they're the same guys. There's plenty of other programs that will treat me/my sites like they deserve to be treated.

Woah... Nasty Dollars is NOT the same guys... It is 1 guy and he split from the Bangbros to do his own program with his partner. They are run very differently. One spares no expense to keep shit tight and working and the other keeps trying to cut corners...

redfrog · 05-02-2006, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod

No offense, but that isn't enough traffic to know how their conversions are. 10 sales in a row could have been right around the corner.

I got $50 from 820,000 clicks. That's a better indicator. Especially since it turned around and did a 1:80 ratio with SexKey, TopBucks, etc. and did awesome with PPC like Sex.com, TopCash (when that existed for porn), and others. It's a bad example, though .. Epoch recorded TONS of sales on those clicks, but Bang Bros never showed it on their end. "We're working on this -- we've heard it from several people, and are trying to get a fix" was what I kept hearing over and over .. they even posted it in the "affiliate news" section.

Just remove their links and move on. They have enough webmasters, and make enough money -- they don't care about you, or anyone else, really.

Again -- no offense.

sure 2200 uniqes is not an indicator , its just that the convertion retio is very bad on my side , espacialy for the last month , dropped by 80%

05-01-2006, 05:07 PM	#1
mrkris Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,737	BangBros please contact me I've sent messages/emails with no response. My sales have dropped to virtually nothing, and found out that your site isn't tracking my clicks. My traffic is awesome. What's going on? __________________ PHP-MySQL-Rails \| ICQ: 342500546

05-01-2006, 05:29 PM	#4
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05-01-2006, 05:31 PM	#5
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05-01-2006, 06:02 PM	#7
markyman Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Southern USA Posts: 822	I have to agree something is up, My sales have dropped to almost 0 in the last 8 days, usually average 2-3 signups a day. something is wacked __________________ Markyman

05-01-2006, 07:28 PM	#22
CyberHustler Masterbaiter Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 27,937	should i take them out my sig? __________________ “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

05-01-2006, 05:08 PM	#2
dissipate The Dirty Frenchman Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 8,904	Shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaving

05-01-2006, 05:35 PM	#6
mrkris Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,737	Yeah. I was converting Oxpass at 1:5 to 1:10 give or take, and no it shows me as sending 4 clicks to it LAST PERIOD TOTAL, with no sales. Yeah, something is wrong. __________________ PHP-MySQL-Rails \| ICQ: 342500546

05-01-2006, 06:39 PM	#11
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	same problem here. fuck bangbros. I'm dropping them entirely

05-01-2006, 06:46 PM	#14
Splum Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA Posts: 6,195	Would they really fuck over affiliates this badly on purpose?

05-01-2006, 06:57 PM	#17
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	I think its safe to say after reading this thread and others that there is something seriously wrong over there.

05-01-2006, 06:58 PM	#18
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Hmm my stats show 0 clicks.

05-01-2006, 07:15 PM	#20
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,428	I think it is safe to say they obviously don't give a shit... If I had a gross income of over $20,000 a day I think I'd pay some 18yo fuck nut in college a grand sum of $65 a day just to check this forum before and after classes and let me know when I am missing something... A free option? Well, there are several services that will let you know when bangbros is mentioned in a thread title... etc... Really fucking rediculous... When I bitch about some programs like Twisty's I get an instant response from Shap... I bet he is getting an email about this thread 15 minutes after I post it.... Shap, can you show Bangbros how it is done?

05-01-2006, 07:30 PM	#23
sfera Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: ICQ: 248877409 Posts: 8,597	http://www.bangbrosonline.com/referral=sfera/

05-01-2006, 07:33 PM	#24
MarkMan Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Money Land Posts: 1,370	oh boy.. that's the fastest way to loose money.. get your webmaster program get plastered all over the boards as a non paying/shaving sponsor

05-01-2006, 09:00 PM	#29
Nismo Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 4,977	Weird. I'm 1:168 today so far and haven't had any problems except my ratio slipping last payperiod. __________________ i buy massive xxx dating traffic.

05-01-2006, 09:24 PM	#30
Peter_ANYwebcam Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 437	last period we sent 2204 clicks they recorded 783 Raws! __________________ http://affiliates.anywebcam.com Promote REAL people and make REAL cash NOW!

05-01-2006, 09:44 PM	#31
edgeprod Permanently Gone Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,019	They're fucking cheating their balls off. I contacted them SEVERAL times about this, and they have IGNORED the threads. Sent an email to Jordan, AS REQUESTED in one of the threads, got NOTHING. It's bullshit. You can't do anything about it, because they're a top sponsor -- you know the deal.

05-01-2006, 10:02 PM	#33
cranki Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Café del Mar Posts: 5,162	drama evolving?

05-01-2006, 10:14 PM	#34
edgeprod Permanently Gone Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,019	doubtful

05-01-2006, 10:48 PM	#36
mrkris Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,737	Yup. I'm moving an entire site I had dedicated to BBO to someone else. Gotta decide who though. __________________ PHP-MySQL-Rails \| ICQ: 342500546

05-01-2006, 10:52 PM	#38
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,295	i jerked off on the phone with mrkris before

05-01-2006, 11:39 PM	#43
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	just checked my stats for the last period, nothing seems out of the ordinary for me.

05-01-2006, 11:45 PM	#44
L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	The butts on the girls on their enter page are much to large ... I had to throw in a negative also ... .

05-02-2006, 12:02 AM	#45
redfrog Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: il Posts: 78	hell yeah , i sent 2200 uniqes, and got 0$ , the last month was like a big zero sales with them __________________ http://www.jigglymelons.com \| http://www.jigglymelons.com/mgp

05-02-2006, 12:23 AM	#47
Krille Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Bangkok Posts: 2,436	yeah something is up with bangbros, 2nd period of last month sucked goatass