tax evasion with epassporte? - GoFuckYourself.com

cranki · 03-13-2006, 06:25 AM

I live outside the US and I'm thinking about getting a visa electron and receiving all my payments over epassporte to save the cheque-cashing fees.

Now I wondered that if I do this, there will be no transactions in my wire bank account whatsoever... No tax officer would be able to track my income and I'd still be able to buy anything via the electron, is that correct?

Of course I'll still declare all my income, but theoretically, I wouldn't have to and no one would be aware, right?

Odin · 03-13-2006, 06:35 AM

Depends what country you are in. But mostly the tax officers watch incoming ATM transaction, and purchases through electronic cards. Most nations have advanced data-mining techniques, so if the epassporte card is in your name you will get a knock at the door sooner or later. I can't offer much advice beyond that, it really depends on your country, but there are ways to get pseudo name 'visa' prepaid type cards (including epassporte) that could help you bring money into the country with no problems. Of course if the money is alot, you are going to have to be accountable for it sooner or later when you go to make a significant purchase (car, house).

ricks · 03-13-2006, 07:01 AM

You are ok unless epassporte gets audited and the IRS turns over your info to your government, which happens all the time.

sfera · 03-13-2006, 07:02 AM

dont cheat or u go to jail

Damian_Maxcash · 03-13-2006, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ricks

You are ok unless epassporte gets audited and the IRS turns over your info to your government, which happens all the time.

Epass isnt in the US as far as I know - or at least the banking records.

Its based in Curacao and I dont think the banks like their records audited by the US IRS

Of course I dont make enough profit to have to worry about such things

polish_aristocrat · 03-13-2006, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by damian2001

Epass isnt in the US as far as I know - or at least the banking records.

Its based in Curacao and I dont think the banks like their records audited by the US IRS

Of course I dont make enough profit to have to worry about such things

you lost me with the last sentence...

Damian_Maxcash · 03-13-2006, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

you lost me with the last sentence...

I meant I only made 1.97 with my GFY sig last year so I dont have to worry about tax returns.

KingK7 · 03-13-2006, 07:59 AM

tax0rz sux0rs

ricks · 03-13-2006, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by damian2001

Epass isnt in the US as far as I know - or at least the banking records.

Its based in Curacao and I dont think the banks like their records audited by the US IRS

Of course I dont make enough profit to have to worry about such things

Epassporte dosen't have to be. They use a Visa Electron, which is processed in the US. A few years ago the IRS got access to records of all 'offshore' Visa accounts because they were being processed in the US even though they are tied to accounts outside of the US. Not declaring income in the US is a risky game, people do go to jail for that sort of thing.

Read this: http://www.mckenzielaw.com/offshore%20accounts.htm

Egomancer · 03-13-2006, 02:11 PM

Interesting,
and they have access to the european VISA transactions too? I mean WTF, the US goverment has access to all the VISA transactions all over the world? This is a war reason (no shit here!)

Egomancer

cranki · 03-14-2006, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Egomancer

Interesting,
and they have access to the european VISA transactions too? I mean WTF, the US goverment has access to all the VISA transactions all over the world? This is a war reason (no shit here!)

I wonder whether the IRS has bilateral contracts with european tax agencies to give out information?!

Webby · 03-14-2006, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cranki

I live outside the US and I'm thinking about getting a visa electron and receiving all my payments over epassporte to save the cheque-cashing fees.

Now I wondered that if I do this, there will be no transactions in my wire bank account whatsoever... No tax officer would be able to track my income and I'd still be able to buy anything via the electron, is that correct?

Of course I'll still declare all my income, but theoretically, I wouldn't have to and no one would be aware, right?

If you are living in a high-tax regime and pulling funds into your country and not declaring this income - it's problematical.

If you happen to live in the UK

, it's even more problematical cos the IR just won a concession via OECD whereby they can now "capture" residents pulling external funding into the UK and have obtained "rights" to access a fair amount of data. Of course, they were very pleased with this and little doubts other EU countries will shortly be joining that bandwagon.

As regards Visa and the US - can't say for epass in particular, but the US does not have rights of access to any offshore facilities. Their powers stopped at Visa Miami as far as the Caribbean is concerned. Again, can't say for epass, but no offshore bank will issue details of cardholders. It's illegal.

Gotta say tho... it's better to remain "legal" in the country you reside, - else move out if you don't like their tax laws.

PS.. that last para on moving out don't apply to US folks - they are captured either way.

PussyTeenies · 03-14-2006, 01:22 AM

i use it in my own bought country :P

cranki · 03-14-2006, 04:14 AM

Hm I guess I need to find I way to get records of my income or they'll probably think I launder money?!

andrej_NDC · 03-14-2006, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief

Depends what country you are in. But mostly the tax officers watch incoming ATM transaction, and purchases through electronic cards. Most nations have advanced data-mining techniques, so if the epassporte card is in your name you will get a knock at the door sooner or later. I can't offer much advice beyond that, it really depends on your country, but there are ways to get pseudo name 'visa' prepaid type cards (including epassporte) that could help you bring money into the country with no problems. Of course if the money is alot, you are going to have to be accountable for it sooner or later when you go to make a significant purchase (car, house).

You are 100% correct.

xclusive · 03-14-2006, 05:18 AM

Don't fuck with the tax man

IceMaster · 03-14-2006, 06:03 AM

Visa is useless in the jail, so...

LadyMischief · 03-14-2006, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ricks

You are ok unless epassporte gets audited and the IRS turns over your info to your government, which happens all the time.

Epassporte is offshore, I don't believe the IRS has any jurisdiction over them.

cranki · 04-30-2006, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyMischief

Epassporte is offshore, I don't believe the IRS has any jurisdiction over them.

but VISA isn't...

Choppa · 04-30-2006, 08:39 AM

yeah offshore

cranki · 04-30-2006, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by choppa

yeah offshore

so what? visa is in us jurisdiction, so in case they would prolly give out card holder details to the taxmenm wouldn't they?

GiveIntoMe · 04-30-2006, 09:03 AM

I've been withdrawing money everyday for the last 15 months, nothings happened here in terms of knocks at the door.

u-Bob · 04-30-2006, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GiveIntoMe

I've been withdrawing money everyday for the last 15 months, nothings happened here in terms of knocks at the door.

You're in the US or... ?

Antonio · 04-30-2006, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by GiveIntoMe

I've been withdrawing money everyday for the last 15 months, nothings happened here in terms of knocks at the door.

log into your epassporte and see your transactions - you'll see a detailed list of your withdrawals including the location of the ATMs, do you think that your local
'IRS' can not get that info if they want to?

sickbeatz · 04-30-2006, 09:16 AM

if you wanna do illegal banking i know some offshore banks that'll be more than happy to help you. i know some lawyers that will set you up with third world shell companies too. only thing, to open an account with any of these institutions; one of the requirements is a minimum balance of no less than 2.5 million dollars.

madawgz · 04-30-2006, 09:19 AM

whoa! this was a good read, goooood to know epassporte isnt located in the US

cranki · 04-30-2006, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio

log into your epassporte and see your transactions - you'll see a detailed list of your withdrawals including the location of the ATMs, do you think that your local
'IRS' can not get that info if they want to?

they don't have my password

no really, that's what I'm wondering... does VISA give out information about withdrawals to local tax agencies?

SomeCreep · 04-30-2006, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cranki

Of course I'll still declare all my income

oh, of course.

cranki · 04-30-2006, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

oh, of course.

yeah, who doesn't?! I want my country to have a better infrastructure, less debt, more kindergartens and schools and free parking everywhere, so I help where I can

shack · 04-30-2006, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyMischief

Epassporte is offshore, I don't believe the IRS has any jurisdiction over them.

You are dead right, they dont, and it has nothing to do with Visa.

-----------------------------------------------

If you were drawing out 1000's a week form an offshore source then I'm sure they would catch onto you at some stage..

"living beyond your means"

But for the most part, a couple hundred a week isnt going to put you in the shit.

Only my

polish_aristocrat · 04-30-2006, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cranki

yeah, who doesn't?! I want my country to have a better infrastructure, less debt, more kindergartens and schools and free parking everywhere, so I help where I can

GiveIntoMe · 04-30-2006, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob

You're in the US or... ?

no Blairs country

PMdave · 04-30-2006, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cranki

Location: in the heart of europe

Belgium?

cranki · 04-30-2006, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by PMdave

Belgium?

nope
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...18#post9792318

minusonebit · 04-30-2006, 11:16 AM

Yeah, you can dodge taxes with ePassporte as long as ePassporte dosent go the way of iBill one day in the middle of the night.

GiveIntoMe · 04-30-2006, 11:24 AM

how many cards do you have guys? I have 4 Epassporte cards.

stickyfingerz · 04-30-2006, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by GiveIntoMe

I've been withdrawing money everyday for the last 15 months, nothings happened here in terms of knocks at the door.

Your sig conflicts with your statement.

GiveIntoMe · 04-30-2006, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Your sig conflicts with your statement.

reason for that is someones programming for me, when its completed you can enter your details, pay via Epassporte, and buy spots on my blogs etc etc. And make me even richer

03-13-2006, 06:25 AM	#1
cranki Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Café del Mar Posts: 5,162	tax evasion with epassporte? I live outside the US and I'm thinking about getting a visa electron and receiving all my payments over epassporte to save the cheque-cashing fees. Now I wondered that if I do this, there will be no transactions in my wire bank account whatsoever... No tax officer would be able to track my income and I'd still be able to buy anything via the electron, is that correct? Of course I'll still declare all my income, but theoretically, I wouldn't have to and no one would be aware, right?

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