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Old 04-29-2006, 12:38 PM   #51
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There is alot more evidence that Saddam had meetings with Al queda and that he gave money to terrorists and harbored them, then there is in this crap ass video.
just like Geroge Bush did and CIA officers meet with Osama....
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Old 04-29-2006, 12:41 PM   #52
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I don't even have to watch these fucking videos to know the FACTS:

1. Planes flew into buildings.
2. The buildings crumbled.
3. People died.

Everything else beyond that is all "story" until otherwise PROVEN.

Take that and compare it to "story":

1. The government planned planes flying into buildings, which were possibly pre-planted with a bunch of explosives and let this happen, allowing American death to occur.
2. People died because of a huge government cover-up; one that was a reason for invading Iraq under the guise of toppling a terrorist dictator, but really was intended to try and install a government friendly to US concerns for the OIL under its soil.
3. There was undeniable evidence that weapons of mass destruction were available in Iraq and that they needed to be confiscated.
4. The recent proliferation of Iran news is not because they are building nuclear technology, but because of the fear that they may sell their vast reserves of oil on a different market than what current oil trades.
4. Aliens control the Illuminati.
5. I have a 20 inch cock.

Now if you can separate fact from story, no matter how much the story sounds plausible, then you can discuss the situation. Until you have ALL the facts, even those that will NEVER turn up, there is no discussion.
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Old 04-29-2006, 12:54 PM   #53
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Old 04-29-2006, 12:57 PM   #54
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The Bush administration had a few good reasons to do an attack within it's on borders.

They needed an excuse to install a US friendly goverment in Iraq and Afghanistan. Iraq to control the oil and to have military present in a central country in the middle east.
In Afghanistan to get the pipe line going they had planned on building since the 90's to get direct access to the Caspian sea.

The american people would never have supported a war outside the US unless there was an attack on American soil. Just like Pearl Harbour created the needed support to get involed in the 2nd world war.

Dick Cheney, George W Bush, George Bush and several other in the Bush administration have been major stock holders in companies that has, surprisingly, received allot of the US defence contracts once they were put out to the private sector.

Fear has made The Patriot Act and Homeland security bill possible to get passed in the senate with no debate giving soo much more power to the goverment. That would never have happend unless there were a sence of fear and the feeling of "something needs to be done"

etc. etc. etc.

Just read the wolfowitch doctrine and you can predict a few things
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Old 04-29-2006, 01:06 PM   #55
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Watched it about a month ago, very well made (technically) and it was in itself entertaining.

Their story does have holes just like any other 9/11 conspiracy stories. I think the makers of this video watched 'Fahrenheit 9/11' too many times or think of Michael Moore as their idol.

BUT, 5% of the video does raise a few interesting questions, the other 95% of the video I actually saw with a side of popcorn and coke.

I wouldn't criticize the makers of this video, I am the type of person who has a very open mind and will listen to anyone's beliefs and let you know what I think of them.

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Old 04-29-2006, 01:38 PM   #56
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I hate conspiracy theories ...

What's next ....

A claim that FBI secretly sought data on 3,501 people in ?05 without warrants

Ya... sure ....
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Old 04-29-2006, 01:58 PM   #57
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http://gnn.tv/videos/9/S_11_Redux is the BEST 9/11 video ever!
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Old 04-29-2006, 03:15 PM   #58
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U know what? This has too much info for it to be a bunch of bullshit. Im sorry but, i agree with the towers falling and that of people hearing other explosions. It was demolished with bombs put in weeks before. I wouldnt doubt any of this. It was done to go to war and for money. Sad that tousands of lives had to be used for these purposes. Our gov is fucking crooked as fuck. End of story. I dont beleive what they say for shit.
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Old 04-29-2006, 04:02 PM   #59
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You mean your daddy's house ...

BTW, check in google "Irak" and "Iraq " , then " idiot " .... should talk about you there ...
No sorry bubba. You know Im married with two kids, and have seen my house many times. Stfu already.
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Old 04-29-2006, 04:11 PM   #60
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U know what? This has too much info for it to be a bunch of bullshit. Im sorry but, i agree with the towers falling and that of people hearing other explosions. It was demolished with bombs put in weeks before. I wouldnt doubt any of this. It was done to go to war and for money. Sad that tousands of lives had to be used for these purposes. Our gov is fucking crooked as fuck. End of story. I dont beleive what they say for shit.
Explosions. You mean loud booms? They didnt hear "explosions" its impossible to hear an explosion. What you hear is the concussion from and explosion. They heard a sound similar to the concussion from an explosion. What was that sound? How bout air pressure shooting out because thousands of tons of material from each floor hitting the one below it as they pancaked to total collapse. Go stand around a construction site when they are dropping large pieces of material into place.


Btw wasnt there a trial this week that revealed all the details of the planning for 911? Guess this guy is going to spend his life in jail, or get the death penalty just for his allegience to GWB right?
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Old 04-29-2006, 04:12 PM   #61
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Nice to see some civilized opinions instead of more 'tin foil hat wearing mutha fucka' type comments.

I respect everyones opinion, and everyone has their own spin on things.

I also understand that some things presented in this movie are spun and stretched. But some of the things that happened are too damn sketchy.
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Old 04-29-2006, 04:15 PM   #62
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Nice to see some civilized opinions instead of more 'tin foil hat wearing mutha fucka' type comments.

I respect everyones opinion, and everyone has their own spin on things.

I also understand that some things presented in this movie are spun and stretched. But some of the things that happened are too damn sketchy.
You know what you can have all the opinions you want when Canada is attacked. Ok.
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Old 04-29-2006, 04:18 PM   #63
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Some interesting points:

- No wreckage recovered from multiple sites
- Most "Hijackers" are alive and well in other countries
- Sketchy activities around the date, $3.2B insurance policy exclusively covering terrorism
- Bomb detecting dogs pulled from the towers
- WTC 7, far away from the towers, containing a ton of important documents somehow collapses hours later
- Video evidence from surrounding areas of the pentagon immediately seized by the FBI
- WTC Towers come down at freefall speeds
- Firefighters claim there was many explosions, "sounded like bombs were going off all over the place"
- Billions of dollars worth of gold gone from under the towers
- Site blocked to everyone, wreckage immediately disposed off
- Administration now has the right to say/do anything they want under the pretext of national security and terrorism

Just to name a few.
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Old 04-29-2006, 04:20 PM   #64
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You know what you can have all the opinions you want when Canada is attacked. Ok.

We won't get attacked, we do not impose our will on other nations, we live in peace.
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Old 04-29-2006, 04:20 PM   #65
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Some interesting points:

- No wreckage recovered from multiple sites
- Most "Hijackers" are alive and well in other countries
- Sketchy activities around the date, $3.2B insurance policy exclusively covering terrorism
- Bomb detecting dogs pulled from the towers
- WTC 7, far away from the towers, containing a ton of important documents somehow collapses hours later
- Video evidence from surrounding areas of the pentagon immediately seized by the FBI
- WTC Towers come down at freefall speeds
- Firefighters claim there was many explosions, "sounded like bombs were going off all over the place"
- Billions of dollars worth of gold gone from under the towers
- Site blocked to everyone, wreckage immediately disposed off
- Administration now has the right to say/do anything they want under the pretext of national security and terrorism

Just to name a few.
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Old 04-29-2006, 04:21 PM   #66
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We won't get attacked, we do not impose our will on other nations, we live in peace.
Yes thats why we were attacked. For imposing our will on other nations. Guess that was Bush's fault too right? Just how long was he in office when we were attacked? Thats what I thought. Stfu.
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Old 04-29-2006, 04:26 PM   #67
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Yes thats why we were attacked. For imposing our will on other nations. Guess that was Bush's fault too right? Just how long was he in office when we were attacked? Thats what I thought. Stfu.
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Old 04-29-2006, 04:27 PM   #68
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Yes thats why we were attacked. For imposing our will on other nations. Guess that was Bush's fault too right? Just how long was he in office when we were attacked? Thats what I thought. Stfu.

Either you are playing the " idiot ' character ... or you plainly are an idiot ....

First WTC attack ??? Yes, you were, are and will be attacked and targets around r=the world for as long as you continue ' replacing " regimes, torturing people, killing people, ...

..and from here, we are looking at that like a FauxNews TVSHOW ...
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Old 04-29-2006, 04:34 PM   #69
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Either you are playing the " idiot ' character ... or you plainly are an idiot ....

First WTC attack ??? Yes, you were, are and will be attacked and targets around r=the world for as long as you continue ' replacing " regimes, torturing people, killing people, ...

..and from here, we are looking at that like a FauxNews TVSHOW ...
Try that again, and this time try and make sense.

Might wanna research WHEN Bin Laden proclaimed his FATWA, and WHY he issued it.
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Old 04-29-2006, 05:03 PM   #70
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limiting your thoughts to those that conform to your political affiliation proves just how narrow minded you must be.

no...i'm not basing my opinion on just what i read here. i reached my conclusion after reading a bunch of your shit over the last couple of months.

luckily i am free from the need of conformity and fitting in or simply hoping to be different in order to have an argument.

carry on fellas.
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I like that you call me a conformist. Lets see...

Im a Conservative republican that works in the porn industry. I support legalized pot, and prostitution..... Yup Im a fuckin cookie cutter example made by the republican party..
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I like that you call me a conformist. Lets see...

Im a Conservative republican that works in the porn industry. I support legalized pot, and prostitution..... Yup Im a fuckin cookie cutter example made by the republican party..
I consider pot and porn to be more of an ethics/morals issue. So yes....you are a conformist. No matter what evidence is thrown in your face that points to a possible conspiracy...you will spin it.

though your political affiliation may be republican....no...you are not a conservative.
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I consider pot and porn to be more of an ethics/morals issue. So yes....you are a conformist. No matter what evidence is thrown in your face that points to a possible conspiracy...you will spin it.

though your political affiliation may be republican....no...you are not a conservative.

No I dont spin it, I unspin it. Thats all that this spew is. Half truths, and misinformation spun together to try and prove our government is big brother and out to get us. Foolish.

And so I guess you are saying that most republicans support Pot, Prostitution, and porn right........
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