Why are we accepting 2$ charges to be paid by Epassporte? - GoFuckYourself.com

GoodChris · 04-27-2006, 06:02 AM

Is this just a frame of mind for us? Sure its only $2.

For a sponsor to write us a check, they get charged by their bank. If they are using a check writing service, additional fee's, and on top of that, they pay for postage to get that check to us.

So why is it that they ding us for the 2$ to pay us via Epassporte.

Why are we accepting this? 30$ should be 30$, not 28$.

Just my 2 cents.

gideongallery · 04-27-2006, 06:26 AM

the same reason you allow your account to be dingged services charges when you go to the bank machine to withdraw money. The convience.

BTW for a sponsor writting a check gives them float day of extra interest (time between them processing and you cashing) they give that up if you ask for epassporte so they don't want you to do that.

Jay_StandAhead · 04-27-2006, 06:33 AM

we don't charge the $2 to our affiliates, but lots of sponsors do it.

digifan · 04-27-2006, 06:33 AM

Because a wire is much more expensive and you have to pay a mint in some countries for clearing a check.

xclusive · 04-27-2006, 06:35 AM

it's a cost of doing business, I have no problem with it.

seeric · 04-27-2006, 06:35 AM

what are you talking about? i'm lost.

i pay hundreds of affiliates every two weeks and not sure what you mean the affiliate gets charged.

if someone earns 1000 dollars from me, they get 1000 dollars.

what do you mean? i'm confused.

seeric · 04-27-2006, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery

BTW for a sponsor writting a check gives them float day of extra interest (time between them processing and you cashing) they give that up if you ask for epassporte so they don't want you to do that.

this is inaccurate.

Screaming · 04-27-2006, 06:39 AM

everyone has to eat.

marketsmart · 04-27-2006, 06:44 AM

epassporte is a business. businesses are set up (or should be) to make money. $2 is a lot cheaper than a wire and a lot more conveinent than getting a check. paypal takes a much higher %. like many companies, epass has its issues, but i am happy that they offer their service and dont have an issue with the $2...

VicD · 04-27-2006, 07:05 AM

Do we have a choice?

Wiggles · 04-27-2006, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

what are you talking about? i'm lost.

i pay hundreds of affiliates every two weeks and not sure what you mean the affiliate gets charged.

if someone earns 1000 dollars from me, they get 1000 dollars.

what do you mean? i'm confused.

most sponsors charge $2, some even $4.

polish_aristocrat · 04-27-2006, 07:12 AM

i dont really care

the $30 for wires sucks far more

Egomancer · 04-27-2006, 07:18 AM

True...and it is 20$ for wires...

Egomancer

polle54 · 04-27-2006, 07:24 AM

well...

I don't really fucking care about $2....

it is a small price to pay for getting a brilliant online bank like epassporte

Tom_PM · 04-27-2006, 07:27 AM

PimpRoll and Adult Elite also dont charge a fee for you to receive epass. payouts. I honestly wasn't aware that any sponsor did.

For EU and south american folks, it's way cheaper and faster still than a US check would be.

gideongallery · 04-27-2006, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

this is inaccurate.

explain please

Pornwolf · 04-27-2006, 08:19 AM

Compared to wire fees, Fed Ex and a myriad of other costs an Epassporte fee is nothing to think about.

Manowar · 04-27-2006, 08:29 AM

i use checks

minusonebit · 04-27-2006, 08:31 AM

You all are whining about a $2 fee? Go back to a wire -- they cost much more.

Sammy4u · 04-27-2006, 09:42 AM

We don't charge a processing fee when we pay out our affiliates, be it check or epassporte.

seeric · 04-27-2006, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiggles

most sponsors charge $2, some even $4.

wow.

the ones i use don't. we definitely don't. i msut be lucky with the sponsors i'm using.

cool. thanks.

seeric · 04-27-2006, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery

explain please

this is the part i am talking about

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery

BTW for a sponsor writting a check gives them float day of extra interest (time between them processing and you cashing) they give that up if you ask for epassporte so they don't want you to do that.

it is not true that sponsors don't want you to pick epassporte for this reason. at least not us. sending out checks and epass when its all washed out is almost the same as far as expenses go.

the interest earned over a few days "float" is nothing really.

not a stab at you man. really.

GoodChris · 04-27-2006, 11:40 AM

Just to make myself clear.

I am not whining about 2$.

I am asking why it is acceptable to ding the affiliate for THEIR cost of business when it comes to Epassporte (which I love and fully support), however you don't see sponsors charging you for their bank fee's and postage when they pay you by check.

It is the principle I am talking about.

JFK · 04-27-2006, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by polle54

well...

I don't really fucking care about $2....

it is a small price to pay for getting a brilliant online bank like epassporte

indeed, indeed ....................I love my Epassporte

pr0 · 04-27-2006, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoodChris

Just to make myself clear.

I am not whining about 2$.

I am asking why it is acceptable to ding the affiliate for THEIR cost of business when it comes to Epassporte (which I love and fully support), however you don't see sponsors charging you for their bank fee's and postage when they pay you by check.

It is the principle I am talking about.

Perhaps it's their lawyer/accountant?

HairToStay · 04-27-2006, 12:13 PM

Some sponsors charge $4 (Jayman Cash and another niche teen site program whose name I can't remember) and one I saw charges $10.

I get paid by several dozen sponsors via ePassporte and that $2 really adds up, then ePassporte charges me $2 more to put it into my bank account.

Isn't it Paycom that charges $2.95 for a check?

gideongallery · 04-27-2006, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K

this is the part i am talking about

it is not true that sponsors don't want you to pick epassporte for this reason. at least not us. sending out checks and epass when its all washed out is almost the same as far as expenses go.

the interest earned over a few days "float" is nothing really.

not a stab at you man. really.

i guess it depends on how big you are. I worked for a fortune 500 company coding for y2k stuff. One of the original coders had add lines of code that would park payroll money into his account for one day (they had a high accounts where money was parked and they transfered money into the chequing account to pay the scheduled bills).

He stole like 25k a year on the interest for that one day/two weeks. If it hadn't been for y2k he would have gotten away with in.

O MARINA · 04-27-2006, 07:26 PM

Well Since you are on the subject of minor fee's.. what happened with the small prepaid deal & the traffic you owe to SexSearch ? ?

I'd like the traffic we paid for from your directory or a refund asap.

madawgz · 04-27-2006, 07:29 PM

affiliates actually reject the 2$ charge? wtf

rowan · 04-28-2006, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery

BTW for a sponsor writting a check gives them float day of extra interest (time between them processing and you cashing) they give that up if you ask for epassporte so they don't want you to do that.

It would have to be a BIG payout to make any significant amount of money... even $10k @5% p/a (which is unlikely) for a day is only $1.37 in interest

I think you might be on the right track though. Consider this:

a) checks take time to mail. the funds come from an account which doesn't necessarily need to have the sum total of all payouts available on day 1. If they're cheeky they could even come up with some sort of algorithm that forecasts when each affiliate is likely to bank them and periodically top up the account to cover that (and then some), earning interest elsewhere in the meantime.

BUT...

b) epass payments need the total of all affiliate payouts as 100% cleared funds prior to transferring the payments out to affiliates. The total needs to be there on day minus 2 (or however long a wire takes).

I'd be interested to hear what epass charges for loading and paying from business accounts...

chadglni · 04-28-2006, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan

It would have to be a BIG payout to make any significant amount of money... even $10k @5% p/a (which is unlikely) for a day is only $1.37 in interest

I think you might be on the right track though. Consider this:

a) checks take time to mail. the funds come from an account which doesn't necessarily need to have the sum total of all payouts available on day 1. If they're cheeky they could even come up with some sort of algorithm that forecasts when each affiliate is likely to bank them and periodically top up the account to cover that (and then some), earning interest elsewhere in the meantime.

BUT...

b) epass payments need the total of all affiliate payouts as 100% cleared funds prior to transferring the payments out to affiliates. The total needs to be there on day minus 2 (or however long a wire takes).

I'd be interested to hear what epass charges for loading and paying from business accounts...

A whole damn bunch of checks never get cashed for whatever reason as well.

Barefootsies · 04-28-2006, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GoodChris

Is this just a frame of mind for us? Sure its only $2.

For a sponsor to write us a check, they get charged by their bank. If they are using a check writing service, additional fee's, and on top of that, they pay for postage to get that check to us.

So why is it that they ding us for the 2$ to pay us via Epassporte.

Why are we accepting this? 30$ should be 30$, not 28$.

Just my 2 cents.

My guess is because you would rather pay the $2 fee then claiming the money on your taxes.

gideongallery · 04-28-2006, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by chadglni

A whole damn bunch of checks never get cashed for whatever reason as well.

Exactly i have an old ccbill check from like 2 years ago. I didn't cash it right away because it was under 50.00 bucks and i thought i would wait until i got more checks to justify the trip.

Well it fell behind the desk

HushMoney · 04-28-2006, 06:54 AM

Hodough does not charge affiliates anything for epassporte,
if it's a $30 sale, you receive $30 in your account.

sickkittens · 04-28-2006, 07:01 AM

Simple. Don't use ePassporte.

georgeyw · 04-28-2006, 07:21 AM

I asked a sponsor about this a little while ago as they charge $4 to pay via epassporte.

Their response was it costs them something like $70 to fill up their epass to pay affiliates. I was also told that there is no way they would eat this charge for affiliates.

rowan · 04-29-2006, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw

I asked a sponsor about this a little while ago as they charge $4 to pay via epassporte.

Their response was it costs them something like $70 to fill up their epass to pay affiliates. I was also told that there is no way they would eat this charge for affiliates.

I guess that means they have 17.5 affiliates.

Seriously, they must have a tiny site if an extra $70 per week or fortnight hurts...

04-27-2006, 06:02 AM	#1
GoodChris Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 454	Why are we accepting 2$ charges to be paid by Epassporte? Is this just a frame of mind for us? Sure its only $2. For a sponsor to write us a check, they get charged by their bank. If they are using a check writing service, additional fee's, and on top of that, they pay for postage to get that check to us. So why is it that they ding us for the 2$ to pay us via Epassporte. Why are we accepting this? 30$ should be 30$, not 28$. Just my 2 cents. __________________ Make Money with METHOD CASH - 100% ASIAN SITES - EXCLUSIVE AND HIGH QUALITY [email protected]

04-27-2006, 06:26 AM	#2
gideongallery Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 7,082	the same reason you allow your account to be dingged services charges when you go to the bank machine to withdraw money. The convience. BTW for a sponsor writting a check gives them float day of extra interest (time between them processing and you cashing) they give that up if you ask for epassporte so they don't want you to do that. __________________ “When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve Wozniak

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Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	PimpRoll and Adult Elite also dont charge a fee for you to receive epass. payouts. I honestly wasn't aware that any sponsor did. For EU and south american folks, it's way cheaper and faster still than a US check would be. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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GoodChris Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 454	Just to make myself clear. I am not whining about 2$. I am asking why it is acceptable to ding the affiliate for THEIR cost of business when it comes to Epassporte (which I love and fully support), however you don't see sponsors charging you for their bank fee's and postage when they pay you by check. It is the principle I am talking about. __________________ Make Money with METHOD CASH - 100% ASIAN SITES - EXCLUSIVE AND HIGH QUALITY [email protected]

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