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axelcat · 04-26-2006, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BannerDept

So now LeBron's supposed to be full of himself saying he's the best?

and he was talking about Kobe's killer instinct if you paid attention...and he appreciated that part of his game and his scoring ability.

and if you noticed since that interview...and the past month of the season, LeBron was the leading scorer in the NBA in the 4th quarter...and won several games with last second shots and passes. LeBron wants to be great and works on every aspect of his game to be great.

btw...James was second in MVP voting

Enough said.

Kobe got robbed and you know it!!!!!

BannerDept · 04-26-2006, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by WEG Cory

Banner Dept you are being triple teamed right now.

You should pass the ball. King Adam should be along shortly haha

Yeah, and I'm being triple teamed because I know what I'm doing

and King Adam should get in on this...he's one of few on the baord that really know basketball.

King Adam · 04-26-2006, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by WEG Cory

Neither have a title without each other.

Bryant was a dominant, large guard that hit clutch shots. You had to devote attention to him or he shredded you, particularly in the 4th quarter.

Go look at Kobe's numbers in the 4th quarter of that dynasty. Then, look at Shaq's 4th quarter free throw misses.

Bryant also swung to power forward and reaked havoc on the opposition. He can score at will.

The media is finally letting go of the ball hog label, the fans will catch on eventually. Those living in LA really don't label him that anymore.

It wasn't Kobe that won last minute shots for LA ... it was Robert Horry.

BannerDept · 04-26-2006, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by axelcat

Kobe got robbed and you know it!!!!!

It's a fact that LeBron's the most "physically dominanting scoring/all round player in the game"....and having more 3-point plays than anyone else in the league proves that. And having a season as all round as he did this year...that only 4 other players have equalled or bettered is all that really needs to be said.

Kobe's had a great season scoring, but all round it can't be compared to James.

BannerDept · 04-26-2006, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by King Adam

It wasn't Kobe that won last minute shots for LA ... it was Robert Horry.

and bingo was his name oh! B-I-N-G-O!

King Adam · 04-26-2006, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by axelcat

What has James done in this league......Please explain?

- Lead his team to the Playoffs for the first time since 1998
- All Star MVP
- Youngest player to do ... shit too many things to write down.

Kobe came out of high school and so did Lebron. Who has all the youngest records .... HELLO .... Lebron is the answer.

Cory W · 04-26-2006, 11:06 AM

Hey Adam, heres a bump for Horry!

I do love that guy.

Cory W · 04-26-2006, 11:09 AM

Adam,

Don't you think you have to earn it though? I mean, do you really just give Lebron multiple titles? Are you sure he will be a great clutch player with killer instinct in the post-season?

Saying you think so means I agree with you. But Banner Dept is handing him titles. I think he has spent to many years in the dogpound rooting for The Browns to win something.

King Adam · 04-26-2006, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

Sure the Suns had a great year even without Amare and that's why Nash has been mentioned for MVP all year. However, anyone who followed the Suns all year would know that Marion was just as vital to their success as Nash. http://www.azcentral.com/sports/chea...2main0413.html

I'm not a big Kobe fan, but what he did this year was incredible and its hard for me to believe the Lakers would have won very many games without him. I think if Cleveland would have finished stronger, Lebron would have been the front runner. Oh well, you could make a case for all of them, just comes down to how you interpret the MVP award.

I agree with your statement about Nash ... Marion was just as importan.

But saying that if Cleveland would have finished stronger just shows you aren't following the game. Cleveland finished as one of the hottest teams in the league. The finished with the 3rd best record in the East and the 5th best record in the NBA .... to most knowledgeable people, that is all considered a strong finish.

King Adam · 04-26-2006, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by axelcat

Kobe Bryant resume- 3 championships

You are so lame.

Championship was not won by Kobe .... it was won with Shap, Horry, Fisher and head couch.

You really sound like a one sided moran here. You haven't made one good point yet. Go ahead and keep posting, you make yourself look more stupid with every post.

BannerDept · 04-26-2006, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by WEG Cory

Adam,

Don't you think you have to earn it though? I mean, do you really just give Lebron multiple titles? Are you sure he will be a great clutch player with killer instinct in the post-season?

Saying you think so means I agree with you. But Banner Dept is handing him titles. I think he has spent to many years in the dogpound rooting for The Browns to win something.

Name an "elite" player that didn't win a title? LeBron's are coming.

BannerDept · 04-26-2006, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by King Adam

You are so lame.

Championship was not won by Kobe .... it was won with Shap, Horry, Fisher and head couch.

You really sound like a one sided moran here. You haven't made one good point yet. Go ahead and keep posting, you make yourself look more stupid with every post.

Isn't it cute how silly they are?

King Adam · 04-26-2006, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by WEG Cory

Hey Adam, heres a bump for Horry!

I do love that guy.

Robert Horry ... best clutch shooter in the league ... hands down.

Cory W · 04-26-2006, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BannerDept

Name an "elite" player that didn't win a title? LeBron's are coming.

I would be wasting time, no matter what player I list, you will say that they are not that good, not elite.

The fact that you even said this is ridiculous. What makes a player elite? Titles?

Seriously.

King Adam · 04-26-2006, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by WEG Cory

Adam,

Don't you think you have to earn it though? I mean, do you really just give Lebron multiple titles? Are you sure he will be a great clutch player with killer instinct in the post-season?

Saying you think so means I agree with you. But Banner Dept is handing him titles. I think he has spent to many years in the dogpound rooting for The Browns to win something.

I do think he needs to earn his championship title for sure ... but if you look at everything else .. Lebron has Kobe beat. Like I said before, they both came out of high school and Lebron is the one that holds the majority of the youngest player records. That has some merit

axelcat · 04-26-2006, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by King Adam

Robert Horry ... best clutch shooter in the league ... hands down.

I agree 100%

axelcat · 04-26-2006, 11:19 AM

Kobe's accomplishments this year:

Ranks #1 in the NBA in Points Per Game(35.4)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Field Goal Attempts(2173.0)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Points(2832.0)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Field-Goal Attempts Per 48 Minutes(31.83)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Field Goals Made(978.0)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Free Throws(696.0)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Points Per 48 Minutes(41.5)
Ranks #2 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts(819.0)
Ranks #3 in the NBA in Three-Point Field Goal Attempts(518.0)
Ranks #3 in the NBA in Free Throws Per 48 Minutes(10.19)
Ranks #5 in the NBA in Minutes Played(3277.0)
Ranks #5 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts Per 48 Minutes(12.0)
Ranks #5 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking(27.83)
Ranks #5 in the NBA in Minutes Per Game(41.0)
Ranks #5 in the NBA in Total Efficiency Points(2226.0)

Oh and I could go on

BannerDept · 04-26-2006, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by WEG Cory

I would be wasting time, no matter what player I list, you will say that they are not that good, not elite.

The fact that you even said this is ridiculous. What makes a player elite? Titles?

Seriously.

Is that a serious question? Take your ball and just go home.

Cory W · 04-26-2006, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by King Adam

Robert Horry ... best clutch shooter in the league ... hands down.

Magic called him one of the top 10 best Playoff players in history; The TNT guys and major media (LATIMES, NYTIMES) hammered him.

I happen to agree.

BannerDept · 04-26-2006, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by axelcat

Kobe's accomplishments this year:

Ranks #1 in the NBA in Points Per Game(35.4)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Field Goal Attempts(2173.0)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Points(2832.0)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Field-Goal Attempts Per 48 Minutes(31.83)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Field Goals Made(978.0)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Free Throws(696.0)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Points Per 48 Minutes(41.5)
Ranks #2 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts(819.0)
Ranks #3 in the NBA in Three-Point Field Goal Attempts(518.0)
Ranks #3 in the NBA in Free Throws Per 48 Minutes(10.19)
Ranks #5 in the NBA in Minutes Played(3277.0)
Ranks #5 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts Per 48 Minutes(12.0)
Ranks #5 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking(27.83)
Ranks #5 in the NBA in Minutes Per Game(41.0)
Ranks #5 in the NBA in Total Efficiency Points(2226.0)

Oh and I could go on

Are you pointing out that he's a ball hog and that you don't know what you're talking about?

Cause if LeBron took as mant shots a game as Kobe, all LeBron's scoring numbers would be better. Know what you're talking about...again, you're making yourself look silly.

axelcat · 04-26-2006, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BannerDept

Are you pointing out that he's a ball hog and that you don't know what you're talking about?

Cause if LeBron took as mant shots a game as Kobe, all LeBron's scoring numbers would be better. Know what you're talking about...again, you're making yourself look silly.

I am arguing with ignorance I shall stop now

crodj · 04-26-2006, 11:22 AM

Look at the stats.

Cory W · 04-26-2006, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BannerDept

Is that a serious question? Take your ball and just go home.

You are honest to god one of my favorite posters now! That was hilarious!

I am going to look at your site, maybe you can make us some banners!

King Adam · 04-26-2006, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by axelcat

Kobe's accomplishments this year:

Ranks #1 in the NBA in Points Per Game(35.4)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Field Goal Attempts(2173.0)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Points(2832.0)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Field-Goal Attempts Per 48 Minutes(31.83)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Field Goals Made(978.0)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Free Throws(696.0)
Ranks #1 in the NBA in Points Per 48 Minutes(41.5)
Ranks #2 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts(819.0)
Ranks #3 in the NBA in Three-Point Field Goal Attempts(518.0)
Ranks #3 in the NBA in Free Throws Per 48 Minutes(10.19)
Ranks #5 in the NBA in Minutes Played(3277.0)
Ranks #5 in the NBA in Free Throw Attempts Per 48 Minutes(12.0)
Ranks #5 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking(27.83)
Ranks #5 in the NBA in Minutes Per Game(41.0)
Ranks #5 in the NBA in Total Efficiency Points(2226.0)

Oh and I could go on

All of his #1 rankings mean the same thing .. all he does is shoot. Thats not something to brag about when trying to win the MVP.

He shoots free throws because he always shoots the ball and gets fouled. He is a ball hog. Where's his high ranks for assists?

And Lebron is #2 or #3 in Efficiency rating.

So whats your point again? You have made one more post to prove you have no idea what you are talking about. Keep um coming AxleFool.

BannerDept · 04-26-2006, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by axelcat

I am arguing with ignorance I shall stop now

Dude you don't even know what you're arguing. That's the best part.

axelcat · 04-26-2006, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by King Adam

All of his #1 rankings mean the same thing .. all he does is shoot. Thats not something to brag about when trying to win the MVP.

He shoots free throws because he always shoots the ball and gets fouled. He is a ball hog. Where's his high ranks for assists?

And Lebron is #2 or #3 in Efficiency rating.

So whats your point again? You have made one more post to prove you have no idea what you are talking about. Keep um coming AxleFool.

Hey King Moron take away Kobe from the lakers and they have the #1 draft pick for the season, thats how bad the lakers would be without kobe.

axelcat · 04-26-2006, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BannerDept

Dude you don't even know what you're arguing. That's the best part.

Your saying that James is better player then kobe, right?
But the fact is that Kobe is already a 3 time champ with better skills

BannerDept · 04-26-2006, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by axelcat

Hey King Moron take away Kobe from the lakers and they have the #1 draft pick for the season, thats how bad the lakers would be without kobe.

again you don't make any valid points...Cleveland would be a bottom dweller in the East if it wasn't for James.

They're equally valuable to their team as far as getting them to the playoffs. That's where it ends though. LeBron is by far an all round better player and makes his teammates better.

King Adam · 04-26-2006, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by axelcat

Hey King Moron take away Kobe from the lakers and they have the #1 draft pick for the season, thats how bad the lakers would be without kobe.

What the fuck does thae prove .. besides the Lakers pretty much have a shitty team? I'll agree with that. Even with Kobe they just got in. They didn't even make the playoffs last year with your boy Kobe.

Take away Lebron and Cleveland is in the cellar too. Cleveland didn't just squeeze in, they have the 3rd best record in the East .. only behind Miami and Detroit some of the best teams in the league.

So just going by who lead their team to a better playoff position, well Lebron wins that arguement too

Why don't you just admit you really don't follow hoops and you have no idea what you are talking about.

This is a hot thread so I can understand you posting here so you get your sig views

BannerDept · 04-26-2006, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by axelcat

Your saying that James is better player then kobe, right?
But the fact is that Kobe is already a 3 time champ with better skills

Kobe's been in the league 10 years...and was brought up in a Championship organization. When it comes down to playoffs...this is the first year Kobe got his team in the playoffs by himself. If he's all that...he should have done it last year as well.

King Adam · 04-26-2006, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by axelcat

Your saying that James is better player then kobe, right?
But the fact is that Kobe is already a 3 time champ with better skills

Here we go again with the 3 championships.

DUDE .... wake the fuck up. Kobe didn't win those. It was Shaq, Horry, and Fisher with a little help from the team traitor Kobe. Another post that proves you are a moran.

King Adam · 04-26-2006, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BannerDept

Kobe's been in the league 10 years...and was brought up in a Championship organization. When it comes down to playoffs...this is the first year Kobe got his team in the playoffs by himself. If he's all that...he should have done it last year as well.

BannerDept · 04-26-2006, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by King Adam

Here we go again with the 3 championships.

DUDE .... wake the fuck up. Kobe didn't win those. It was Shaq, Horry, and Fisher with a little help from the team traitor Kobe. Another post that proves you are a moran.

I can't believe this cat is still swinging

axelcat · 04-26-2006, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by King Adam

Here we go again with the 3 championships.

DUDE .... wake the fuck up. Kobe didn't win those. It was Shaq, Horry, and Fisher with a little help from the team traitor Kobe. Another post that proves you are a moran.

Move along now you are clueless when it comes to basketball IQ! I am done talking to you......next

King Adam · 04-26-2006, 11:36 AM

Here is my top 3

1 - Lebron
2 - Kobe
3 - Nash

I love Nash to death but Marion was a major roll player and so was Barbosa.

axelcat · 04-26-2006, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by King Adam

It was Shaq, Horry, and Fisher with a little help from the team traitor Kobe. Another post that proves you are a moran.

King Adam · 04-26-2006, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by axelcat

Move along now you are clueless when it comes to basketball IQ! I am done talking to you......next

Lets prove it .. are you in?

1- How long have you played hoops. Please provide references.

I have played all years in high school. Played for 2 years in college before I tore my rotator cup. After college, played on and off street game. For the past 5 years, I've been playing in organized mens A leagues throughout the Phoenix area. Even played in the Phoenix 3 on 3 championship downtown.

How about you?

After that, we can get into some other points I have.

BannerDept · 04-26-2006, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by axelcat

Move along now you are clueless when it comes to basketball IQ! I am done talking to you......next

god. what is wrong with you. The king is reaming you and you just keep coming back for more.

emaginiKris · 04-26-2006, 11:40 AM

Ow Who Gives A Flying Fuck, Fuck All 3 Of Them......get Back To Work

Drake · 04-26-2006, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BannerDept

He's only going to get better with age...and if he stays heathly he'll break the all-time scoring record before he's 35.

LeBron's it. Do you think he'd have $120 million dollars in contracts before playing an NBA game if he wasn't?

He has done nothing but prove he's "it" ever since he started playing the game...from high school to the NBA. There's nothing more he could have done...Everyone expected greatness, but nothing like what he's done.

Start watching him, because you're going to miss something special if you don't.

I agree, barring any unforseen physical problems or a change in his love for the game, he'll one day be one of the greats.

BannerDept · 04-26-2006, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by King Adam

Lets prove it .. are you in?

1- How long has you played hoops. Please provide refernces.

I have played all years in high school. Played for 2 years in college before I tore my rotator cup. After college, played on and off street game. For the past 5 years, I've been playing in organized mens A leagues throughout the Phoenix area. Even played in the Phoenix 3 on 3 championship downtown.

How about you?

After that, we can get into some other points I have.

I already asked that...he think he's played a lot more than I ever have. Tried to explain sitting on the bench/filling water bottles doesn't count

King Adam · 04-26-2006, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by emaginiKris

Ow Who Gives A Flying Fuck, Fuck All 3 Of Them......get Back To Work

Ok .. good point

Cory W · 04-26-2006, 11:41 AM

This thread is great!

BannerDept · 04-26-2006, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

I agree, barring any unforseen physical problems or a change in his love for the game, he'll one day be one of the greats.

nah...his love won't change, he's basketball.

King Adam · 04-26-2006, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by axelcat

Lets make this real easy. I'm in Phoenix and I think you are in LA .. could be wrong.

Lets play some one on one and see who has the better basketball IQ.

This is a legitement challenge. Step up or shut up

Cory W · 04-26-2006, 11:43 AM

Banner Dept, you need to play in our annual bball tournament in Phoenix at The Forum.

My knee should be healed by then.

axelcat · 04-26-2006, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by King Adam

Lets prove it .. are you in?

1- How long have you played hoops. Please provide references.

I have played all years in high school. Played for 2 years in college before I tore my rotator cup. After college, played on and off street game. For the past 5 years, I've been playing in organized mens A leagues throughout the Phoenix area. Even played in the Phoenix 3 on 3 championship downtown.

How about you?

After that, we can get into some other points I have.

You talk like your a baller with all this experience and yet I dont see your ass in the nba, what point are you trying to make. We are talking about kobe and james and not king moron

King Adam · 04-26-2006, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by axelcat

You talk like your a baller with all this experience and yet I dont see your ass in the nba, what point are you trying to make. We are talking about kobe and james and not king moron

We were talking about them but you said I have no basketball IQ ... that doesn't mean who knows more about MVP votes .. that was a general statement.

So I challenge you to a game of one on one hoops. I guess you don't really know who you are talking to here. Let me show you. And just so you know .. its King Adam bitch .... not King Moran

axelcat · 04-26-2006, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by WEG Cory

Banner Dept, you need to play in our annual bball tournament in Phoenix at The Forum.

My knee should be healed by then.

Count me in for next year Cory

axelcat · 04-26-2006, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by King Adam

We were talking about them but you said I have no basketball IQ ... that doesn't mean who knows more about MVP votes .. that was a general statement.

So I challenge you to a game of one on one hoops. I guess you don't really know who you are talking to here. Let me show you.

dude we are comparing kobe and james

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