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bdld 04-21-2006 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by vanillaice
How much do you estimate before you get one? I felt good to get an invite to the offline editor lol.
i'd guesstimate 1k/day for a year

nekrom 04-21-2006 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GatorB
Yes I've noticed this too. Sometimes it takes over a week to get anything reviewed and that's only because after they get a profanity laced e-mail from me. The last time the person that responded said next time I should e-mail them everytime I want to make a change if I want my ads to be review within 24 hours. That's bullshit. EVERY fucking time? If that's their new policy then fine they should say that and quit saying that your ads will be up within 15 minutes.

And frankly the main reason I use them over Yahoo is because I could change ads and add keywords in an instant. If this is no longer the case I have to seriously consider other options. At least with Yahoo if you pay the $179 for the "pro" level of service you actually get your ads on FIRST then they are reviewed. Which is how it should be. I've been with Adwords for over 4 years and I get treat like a noob? I mean it's stupid if I feel like my ad text needs a change I have to not have my ad shown for DAYS or if I want to add a keyword not have it show up for days and thus lose sales until some lazy fuck from Google finally decides to do his fucking job.
hahhaha right on mate. You shoulda seen the email I sent to them. They gave me some aussie account rep for a bit, then I ended up on the "we'll add you when we give a fuck" list.

So much for the "on the fly" setup. I also got the other day the google australia office address/phone number. I should head down and pay a friendly visit. Ask how much more money I have to burn per month to get some one, with 1/2 a clue. :)

-N

DaddyHalbucks 04-21-2006 10:59 PM
I get a funny feeling about adwords. I don't think the gravy train will last very long.

This is just my opinion.

WiredGuy 04-21-2006 11:22 PM
Start by not dealing with revshare. And its certainly possible.
WG

cool1g 04-22-2006 12:24 AM
i know of a guy that promotes only mainstream products via adwords. he spends $200-$300K per months and typically grosses around $500K - $2.4 million+ per year and he's a one-man operation. he always keeps me motivated.

i've promoted a certain niche from a large program and consistently gotten 1:100-1:150 paying no more than $0.06 but granted the traffic isn't that high...

GatorB 04-22-2006 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by bdld
i'd guesstimate 1k/day for a year
That's a bunch of crap. That's $365K a year. So people that spend $100K or even $200K a year aren't good enough to get a rep? Perhaps if I was a shareholder I'd get more respect.

moniker1 04-22-2006 04:17 AM
OK.. then my question is .. wtf is wrong with me? Am I dumb or lazy or both!!!!!! Fuck

polish_aristocrat 04-22-2006 04:28 AM
overall whoever converts 1:50 with any porn traffic, gets my respect

you f.e hear people saying "typein traffic" converts great, and yet for me it does 1:2000 or so and im far from stupid and my ads seem quite good
maybe im just shaved by the sponsors to death :/

with adwords, i have some small campaigns now, but they arent doing better than 1:200 id say

sacX 04-22-2006 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by GatorB
That's a bunch of crap. That's $365K a year. So people that spend $100K or even $200K a year aren't good enough to get a rep? Perhaps if I was a shareholder I'd get more respect.
do greater than 10k a month for 3 or 4 months and you should get a rep

bigdog 04-22-2006 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by GatorB
That's a bunch of crap. That's $365K a year. So people that spend $100K or even $200K a year aren't good enough to get a rep? Perhaps if I was a shareholder I'd get more respect.
I agree with you, but in reality that is peanuts to the big spenders. You got guys in adult dropping 3k+ daily

Rui 04-22-2006 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Start by not dealing with revshare. And its certainly possible.
WG
or have enough to fund the waiting for the rebills or if you run the program push it yourself...

Theo 04-22-2006 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by cool1g
i know of a guy that promotes only mainstream products via adwords. he spends $200-$300K per months and typically grosses around $500K - $2.4 million+ per year and he's a one-man operation. he always keeps me motivated.

i've promoted a certain niche from a large program and consistently gotten 1:100-1:150 paying no more than $0.06 but granted the traffic isn't that high...

and the guy you know can do it with by spending 200k-300k/month ?

i highly doubt he is telling you the truth. btw you spent $200k/month and you gross the 2.4mil/year you on break even point lol

irbobo 04-22-2006 05:56 AM
or should you say "Click Fraud".. google has been known on way too many occasions to falsely accuse of this, and when asked to provide evidence they state it would reveal secrets to their algorithm.

Wiggles 04-22-2006 06:01 AM
i am 1:27 with adwords, first time ever, not easy though, nick3131 helped me alot, he knows his shit!

irbobo 04-22-2006 06:32 AM
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12408277/

They probably use the so called "Click Fraud" to boost their earnings. They can seriously just say oops.. we need more money.. let's falsely accuse such and such and then keep his money.

Nicky 04-22-2006 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Start by not dealing with revshare. And its certainly possible.
WG
WG, can I have your adwords login I need to check some stuff. :upsidedow

donnie 04-22-2006 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by edgeprod
Actually, that's not entirely true. That girl your raped was my cousin, asshole.
WTF? Who raped who?

vanillaice 04-22-2006 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by sacX
do greater than 10k a month for 3 or 4 months and you should get a rep
That's not too bad. Thanks for the info

cool1g 04-22-2006 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel
and the guy you know can do it with by spending 200k-300k/month ?

i highly doubt he is telling you the truth. btw you spent $200k/month and you gross the 2.4mil/year you on break even point lol
hehe - posts don't quite make 100% sense when u make them after a couple of drinks.

that guy grosses $500K per month on average - he spends $200-300K. so he is netting a minimuim of $200K per month or $2.4 Mil a year. I've seen photos of his checks and know some of the sites he runs, as well as his reputation in the mainstream aff world so i believe it. i've never seen him try to make $ by telling people how well he does and pushing some sort of program.

he works only in mainstream programs that pay a minimum of $10 pps, and preferable $50. he's based in the UK, and there many of the mortgage programs will pay $90-100 per application - i would think a good PPCer could acquire those applicants for $50. you can see some of those programs on CJ.com.

remember people, google took in $2.25 BILLION dollars in the Q1 of 2006. That is $25 MILLION PER DAY. That tells you PPC must work or there are a lot of stupid people out there.

Subway 04-22-2006 11:38 AM
Tried it with a budget of 1000 euro's, loss: 800 euro.

BINGO

woj 04-22-2006 11:39 AM
100........

cool1g 04-22-2006 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by moniker1
Lets do a little math here. Suppose we get the cheapest ass keywords at 5c a pop. Now we only get half of the revenue cuz the sponsor gets the other half... so about $15 per sale. Now, what kind of conversion do we need pull to even come out in the profit? Unreal conversion! 1:300 just to break even. I'm calling bullshit!!!!!!

For one, I'd like to make money with Adwords, and if anyone can show me the error of my ways - I'd thank you... with $ also.
dude, what kind of programs are you pushing? pretty much everyone is at $25 minimum PPS for console-free sites. You do 1:300, $0.05/click, $25 PPS, you are making $10 per sale or 60% ROI.

WiredGuy 04-22-2006 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by GatorB
That's a bunch of crap. That's $365K a year. So people that spend $100K or even $200K a year aren't good enough to get a rep? Perhaps if I was a shareholder I'd get more respect.
You qualify for a dedicated rep once you commit $5k/mn for a minimum 3 month term.
WG

WiredGuy 04-22-2006 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Rui
or have enough to fund the waiting for the rebills or if you run the program push it yourself...
Even if you have the funds I wouldn't recommend a webmaster doing it, if you own the site sure, but you're bearing all the risk based on someone else's members area. Thats a rather high risk to put yourself out there.
WG

QuaWee 04-22-2006 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by edgeprod
Yes, I'm 12, but I buy my groceries without reaching for food stamps. I saw that picture of you with the tattered old clothing, 5 teeth missing, and the skanky male model boyfriend. It kind of skeeved me out, but to each his own.

Sorry if I called it "welfare" -- what is it called in your state? "Assisted living?" Good luck with it.
:1orglaugh

Dagwolf 04-22-2006 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by moniker1
Lets do a little math here. Suppose we get the cheapest ass keywords at 5c a pop. Now we only get half of the revenue cuz the sponsor gets the other half... so about $15 per sale. Now, what kind of conversion do we need pull to even come out in the profit? Unreal conversion! 1:300 just to break even. I'm calling bullshit!!!!!!

For one, I'd like to make money with Adwords, and if anyone can show me the error of my ways - I'd thank you... with $ also.
It's worthwhile for a sponsor to run an Adwords campaign in a lot of cases. Not so much for affiliates.

Solution: Make your own paysite and promote it with adwords, among other methods. You now owe me $.

MrLuvr 04-23-2006 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cool1g
hehe - posts don't quite make 100% sense when u make them after a couple of drinks.

that guy grosses $500K per month on average - he spends $200-300K. so he is netting a minimuim of $200K per month or $2.4 Mil a year. I've seen photos of his checks and know some of the sites he runs, as well as his reputation in the mainstream aff world so i believe it. i've never seen him try to make $ by telling people how well he does and pushing some sort of program.

he works only in mainstream programs that pay a minimum of $10 pps, and preferable $50. he's based in the UK, and there many of the mortgage programs will pay $90-100 per application - i would think a good PPCer could acquire those applicants for $50. you can see some of those programs on CJ.com.
Is this the guy from UKOffer.com?

pxxx 04-23-2006 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Splum
Hahahaha adwords rules, dont let the haters fool ya there is LOTS of money to be made with it. Ive got my shit set straight so it dont bother me to speak the truth.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7jIWWFBvs7A
This is a gem, lmao. THANK you! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


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