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Tapaz 04-21-2006 05:16 PM

nice thread :)

sh33p 04-21-2006 05:19 PM

No money on the net..nothing at all. ;)

beemk 04-21-2006 05:21 PM

how about $30-35 a sale with conversion ratios of 1:50 - 1:100

GatorB 04-21-2006 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by vanillaice
My biggest Adwords gripe...

Not only does it seem like they stop reviewing ads at like 1pm on friday afternoon until sometime monday morning, it's getting frustrating to see mid-week changes take 2-3 days now. To be fair though, my last few changes have been completed in about 24 hours, but it does suck when you're A/B testing ads and want to make changes every 50-100 clicks or so.

Yes I've noticed this too. Sometimes it takes over a week to get anything reviewed and that's only because after they get a profanity laced e-mail from me. The last time the person that responded said next time I should e-mail them everytime I want to make a change if I want my ads to be review within 24 hours. That's bullshit. EVERY fucking time? If that's their new policy then fine they should say that and quit saying that your ads will be up within 15 minutes.

And frankly the main reason I use them over Yahoo is because I could change ads and add keywords in an instant. If this is no longer the case I have to seriously consider other options. At least with Yahoo if you pay the $179 for the "pro" level of service you actually get your ads on FIRST then they are reviewed. Which is how it should be. I've been with Adwords for over 4 years and I get treat like a noob? I mean it's stupid if I feel like my ad text needs a change I have to not have my ad shown for DAYS or if I want to add a keyword not have it show up for days and thus lose sales until some lazy fuck from Google finally decides to do his fucking job.

camuseeme 04-21-2006 05:33 PM

I just got back in the biz so I don't have a lot of traffic sources other than Adwords and Yahoo. I make between 30% -50% profit each week.:)

vanillaice 04-21-2006 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB
Yes I've noticed this too. Sometimes it takes over a week to get anything reviewed and that's only because after they get a profanity laced e-mail from me. The last time the person that responded said next time I should e-mail them everytime I want to make a change if I want my ads to be review within 24 hours. That's bullshit. EVERY fucking time? If that's their new policy then fine they should say that and quit saying that your ads will be up within 15 minutes.

And frankly the main reason I use them over Yahoo is because I could change ads and add keywords in an instant. If this is no longer the case I have to seriously consider other options. At least with Yahoo if you pay the $179 for the "pro" level of service you actually get your ads on FIRST then they are reviewed. Which is how it should be. I've been with Adwords for over 4 years and I get treat like a noob? I mean it's stupid if I feel like my ad text needs a change I have to not have my ad shown for DAYS or if I want to add a keyword not have it show up for days and thus lose sales until some lazy fuck from Google finally decides to do his fucking job.

Yea it's pretty stupid that you can spend $30k+ a year with them, but still need every single change you make to your ads reviewed like you're some newbie. And not only do they need to be reviewed, they need to be reviewed before they'll show.

Didn't google have something like the "pro" service included a year or two ago? I seem to remember making changes, seeing them pretty quickly, then getting an e-mail a few days later if my ad was declined for whatever reason.

I don't remember exactly when the extreme slowness started, but I don't think it's always been like it.

Remastered 04-21-2006 05:46 PM

Fuck I hate these threads, die thread die.

SomeCreep 04-21-2006 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by moniker1
Lets do a little math here. Suppose we get the cheapest ass keywords at 5c a pop. Now we only get half of the revenue cuz the sponsor gets the other half... so about $15 per sale. Now, what kind of conversion do we need pull to even come out in the profit? Unreal conversion! 1:300 just to break even. I'm calling bullshit!!!!!!

For one, I'd like to make money with Adwords, and if anyone can show me the error of my ways - I'd thank you... with $ also.

There is no way to make money with Adwords. Keyword bidding is too high and sponsor payouts are too low. It is best not to try.

Splum 04-21-2006 05:57 PM

Hahahaha adwords rules, dont let the haters fool ya there is LOTS of money to be made with it. Ive got my shit set straight so it dont bother me to speak the truth.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7jIWWFBvs7A

Remastered 04-21-2006 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep
There is no way to make money with Adwords. Keyword bidding is too high and sponsor payouts are too low. It is best not to try.

Don't forget the CLICK FRAUD.

woj 04-21-2006 06:02 PM

50...,.......

GatorB 04-21-2006 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep
There is no way to make money with Adwords. Keyword bidding is too high and sponsor payouts are too low. It is best not to try.


Yes no money in Adwords. Please do NOT get started in Adwords. And if you are already using Adwords, STOP. I beg of you, everyone using Adwords needs to stop doing it. except me of course

detoxed 04-21-2006 06:06 PM

$15 a sale? Go with ppl paying $40 then. They are out there. some places pay hundreds.

edgeprod 04-21-2006 06:11 PM

PPS sucks with AdWords for me. Revshare shows you're in the game.

edgeprod 04-21-2006 06:12 PM

wrong forum! ha!

mrthumbs 04-21-2006 06:15 PM

the trick is conversions idiots.. with AdWords you should do 1:30-1:50.. its not tgp traffic you assclowns.. oh wait.. tgp traffic is 1:3000..
Find a product that converts and its probably not in the adult area..

GatorB 04-21-2006 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mrthumbs
the trick is conversions idiots.. with AdWords you should do 1:30-1:50.. its not tgp traffic you assclowns.. oh wait.. tgp traffic is 1:3000..
Find a product that converts and its probably not in the adult area..

Like what, selling shit from Amazon for 5% comission? People that click Adwords ads are much more willing to buy porn than TGP traffic. If they wanted free porn they go to the TGPs. If they want free porn but are too stupid to find it that's not my problem.

GatorB 04-21-2006 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod
PPS sucks with AdWords for me. Revshare shows you're in the game.

Um ok. So you spend say $15 on a sale where you get $2.50 with no promise of any rebills rather than getting a for sure $30 and know in fact that you WILL make a profit?

Paparazzi 04-21-2006 06:39 PM

anyone know if miva & overture review listings on Sat-Sun or only on Mon-Fri?

Donny 04-21-2006 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by damian2001
I would have thought Adwords did WAY better than 1:300 - This isnt TGP traffic.

Also I doubt anyone would do it for $15 a sale - where did you get that figure from?

From my experience it's always been 1:900 to 1:1200. Wasn't impressed.

bigdog 04-21-2006 06:48 PM

You need to get wiredguys account manager

GatorB 04-21-2006 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donny
From my experience it's always been 1:900 to 1:1200. Wasn't impressed.


With Adwords? Then you just suck at it. Let me guess you fogot to filter out non-US/Canadian trafiic you forgot to use the negative word FREE. Meaning anyone searching for FREE porn would not see your ad. You probally let your ads be seen on their search partners and content networks. You probally used general words with the broad match instead of the phrase match or exact match.

bdld 04-21-2006 07:26 PM

if you have trouble with adwords reviewers, spend a bit more and they'll give you a dedicated rep, my ads get in real fast and they'll let you bend the rules a bit too

bdld 04-21-2006 07:30 PM

with adwords as with most other advertising sources, mainstream conversions are way better than adult.. but the adult payouts are much larger. either way there's profits to be made if you know what you're doing.

vanillaice 04-21-2006 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
With Adwords? Then you just suck at it. Let me guess you fogot to filter out non-US/Canadian trafiic you forgot to use the negative word FREE. Meaning anyone searching for FREE porn would not see your ad. You probally let your ads be seen on their search partners and content networks. You probally used general words with the broad match instead of the phrase match or exact match.

I was wondering about search partners. I haven't really tested w/o, is it a big difference?

vanillaice 04-21-2006 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdld
if you have trouble with adwords reviewers, spend a bit more and they'll give you a dedicated rep, my ads get in real fast and they'll let you bend the rules a bit too

How much do you estimate before you get one? I felt good to get an invite to the offline editor lol.

Donny 04-21-2006 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
With Adwords? Then you just suck at it. Let me guess you fogot to filter out non-US/Canadian trafiic you forgot to use the negative word FREE. Meaning anyone searching for FREE porn would not see your ad. You probally let your ads be seen on their search partners and content networks. You probally used general words with the broad match instead of the phrase match or exact match.

I've been around 8 years. I am not a complete moron. Adwords results simply sucked for me. Just telling you my experiences.

edgeprod 04-21-2006 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
Um ok. So you spend say $15 on a sale where you get $2.50 with no promise of any rebills rather than getting a for sure $30 and know in fact that you WILL make a profit?

Revshare shows you're in the game.

I personally guarantee you stand in the welfare line every month.

:2 cents:

edgeprod 04-21-2006 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donny
I've been around 8 years. I am not a complete moron. Adwords results simply sucked for me. Just telling you my experiences.

Like water off a duck's back, man. Look at the guy's post history. It's laughable.

What you're saying doesn't have the ring of bullshit, and that's what counts.

He's just flexing his e-peen -- you know the type.

GatorB 04-21-2006 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod
Revshare shows you're in the game.

I personally guarantee you stand in the welfare line every month.

:2 cents:

What are you 12? And you're wrong I am not on welfare.

edgeprod 04-21-2006 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB
What are you 12? And you're wrong I am not on welfare.

Yes, I'm 12, but I buy my groceries without reaching for food stamps. I saw that picture of you with the tattered old clothing, 5 teeth missing, and the skanky male model boyfriend. It kind of skeeved me out, but to each his own.

Sorry if I called it "welfare" -- what is it called in your state? "Assisted living?" Good luck with it.

GatorB 04-21-2006 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanillaice
I was wondering about search partners. I haven't really tested w/o, is it a big difference?

I find end up costing you ore than theya re worth. But that's me. Thing is I know how my ad is going to look on Google. I don't know how it's going to look or be interpreted by the surfer on any of those other sites. Last thing I want is a bunch of confused surfers clicking my ad that have no intention of buying. This seems to be more a problem on their search partners. I suppose some Adwords people will say they make as much or more using the search partners and that may be the case with them.

GatorB 04-21-2006 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod
Yes, I'm 12, but I buy my groceries without reaching for food stamps. I saw that picture of you with the tattered old clothing, 5 teeth missing, and the skanky male model boyfriend. It kind of skeeved me out, but to each his own.

Sorry if I called it "welfare" -- what is it called in your state? "Assisted living?" Good luck with it.

WTF is your issue with me. I've done nothing to you for you to be an ass? And no I'm not on food stamps either. Just because you lie reshare you have to be disrespectful to me because I don't think it's wise to use it on Adwords. WTF is wrong with you? most webmaster here use PPS so you are bsically insulting them too. "In the game" WTF is that? You are 12. Who in the fuck do you think you're impressing with that? You're attitude shows you're NOT in the game.

GatorB 04-21-2006 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod
Like water off a duck's back, man. Look at the guy's post history. It's laughable.

What you're saying doesn't have the ring of bullshit, and that's what counts.

He's just flexing his e-peen -- you know the type.

WTF does that mean? Oh ok everyone that uses Adwords is not making money and is somehow lyng and still spending money on Adwords for some unknown reason. Ok sounds reasonable. :helpme

edgeprod 04-21-2006 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
WTF is your issue with me. I've done nothing to you for you to be an ass?

Actually, that's not entirely true. That girl your raped was my cousin, asshole.

edgeprod 04-21-2006 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
WTF does that mean? Oh ok everyone that uses Adwords is not making money and is somehow lyng

I make plenty of money from AdWords. And from sex with horses.

But I know that you don't. I saw that your accounts at your major sponsors was still waiting to accumulate the minimum check amounts.

In the meantime, you always have food stamps. There's no shame, I'm not trying to make you feel bad.

GatorB 04-21-2006 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdld
if you have trouble with adwords reviewers, spend a bit more and they'll give you a dedicated rep, my ads get in real fast and they'll let you bend the rules a bit too

How much do you suggest I spend?

edgeprod 04-21-2006 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
How much do you suggest I spend?

They don't accept food stamps currently, but you might be able to work something out if you email them.

FYI: There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of animals Chuck Norris allows to live.

Xplicit 04-21-2006 10:36 PM

Adwords is a strange thing....

Ive doubled my money on it with some sponsors, the BIG downside to that is I had to make my bid prices so low in order to make a profit, i got very little traffic.

So yeah I doubled my money, but "my money" was $20/day.

GatorB 04-21-2006 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xplicit
Adwords is a strange thing....

Ive doubled my money on it with some sponsors, the BIG downside to that is I had to make my bid prices so low in order to make a profit, i got very little traffic.

So yeah I doubled my money, but "my money" was $20/day.

Surely you can find enough keywords than to spend more than $20 a day. Also sometimes it pays to spend a bit more, but you've got to be careful.


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