Why do sponsors allow theives to promote their programs? - GoFuckYourself.com

jojojo · 05-08-2002, 04:33 AM

I am talking specifically about phatforums.com

Most of these forums hotlink mpegs.

Why do sponsors continue to support this kind of behaviour?

This is pure bullshit.

Please enlighten me as to why sponsors continue to do business with theives?

mrthumbs · 05-08-2002, 04:37 AM

as long as it's not your problem.. dont worry about it.

Cirrus · 05-08-2002, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrthumbs
as long as it's not your problem.. dont worry about it.

very clever :-/

mrthumbs · 05-08-2002, 04:46 AM

sorry bout that.. in a smart-ass mood today..

SR · 05-08-2002, 04:50 AM

Fully agreed
All sponsors should ban sites like that.
I informed hosts and sponsors from movieforums but never got a reply.
I mailed adultbouncer and boxfrog 2 or 3 weeks ago about this and never got an answer.

12clicks · 05-08-2002, 05:05 AM

anyone got a url ?
I'd be happy to bounce some theives early in the morning.

pipp · 05-08-2002, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jojojo
I am talking specifically about phatforums.com

Most of these forums hotlink mpegs.

Why do sponsors continue to support this kind of behaviour?

This is pure bullshit.

Please enlighten me as to why sponsors continue to do business with theives?

Because it make's them money.

jojojo · 05-08-2002, 01:22 PM

It does involve me because they are hotlinking my mpegs.

I would like a public response from some major sponsors and an explanation from them why the continue to support theives like this.

Lensman:

I would like to hear from you because they are actively promoting AP and I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to know what your position is on this.

Milton · 05-08-2002, 01:48 PM

go to work

cheque · 05-08-2002, 02:39 PM

If sponsor ban sites hotlinking mpeg or pictures they definately will harm more honest people then cheaters.

There are lot's of people (including me) hotlinking from portal pages to content located to a central page. I'm using some catchy domain names hosted by quality hosting providers so that a gallery will load fast. They actual content I use is located on seperate domains. This way I don't need to upload content over and over again when I want to use it on new domains. I also All domains are protected by a .htaccess file to prevent sites not owned by me to hotlink my content.

Compare your sited with shops in the 'normal' world. Everybody can visit a shop, but most shops prevent themselves with security portals to prevent 'customers' to leave without paying. Consider your sites as a shop to and prevent people to steal.

I know it's very annoying when people are hotlinking and stealing your bandwidth. The solution for this problem is not banning sites, which are hotlinking but if you cathch someone hotlinking to your sites report the person to his/her host and the sponsor he/she is using and add a .htaccess file to your domain.

Jakke PNG · 05-08-2002, 03:03 PM

Mojo jojo(jo)?

jojojo · 05-08-2002, 04:06 PM

"I know it's very annoying when people are hotlinking and stealing your bandwidth. The solution for this problem is not banning sites, which are hotlinking but if you cathch someone hotlinking to your sites report the person to his/her host and the sponsor he/she is using and add a .htaccess file to your domain."

I am finding out first what sponsor's positions are first - so far no one has posted anything.

Secondly it is impossible to use .htaccess to block the hotlinking of mpegs.

This is bullshit and these fucking theives should be shut down.

WHY ARE SPONSORS CONTINUING TO BUSINESS WITH THEIVES?

I'm waiting for some responses...

http · 05-08-2002, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cheque
If sponsor ban sites hotlinking mpeg or pictures they definately will harm more honest people then cheaters.

There are lot's of people (including me) hotlinking from portal pages to content located to a central page. I'm using some catchy domain names hosted by quality hosting providers so that a gallery will load fast. They actual content I use is located on seperate domains. This way I don't need to upload content over and over again when I want to use it on new domains. I also All domains are protected by a .htaccess file to prevent sites not owned by me to hotlink my content.

Compare your sited with shops in the 'normal' world. Everybody can visit a shop, but most shops prevent themselves with security portals to prevent 'customers' to leave without paying. Consider your sites as a shop to and prevent people to steal.

I know it's very annoying when people are hotlinking and stealing your bandwidth. The solution for this problem is not banning sites, which are hotlinking but if you cathch someone hotlinking to your sites report the person to his/her host and the sponsor he/she is using and add a .htaccess file to your domain.

blah blah blah

htaccess doens't work for movies and you know it

jojojo · 05-08-2002, 05:43 PM

exactly...

I am going to keep bumping this thread until I hear from some sponsors including Adult.com

jojojo · 05-08-2002, 06:55 PM

please respond with your position sponsors...

Rod · 05-08-2002, 07:18 PM

Thats funny.
.htaccess wont work with mpegs, yea, that is true....but hey, there is a lot of software that you can rename in *.avi to send all the traffic that is sent to this movie, to your sponsor...

So when someone hotlink your movies, just use that script and redirect all the hits to your sponsors or sites...

I personnally love to be hotlinked...it makes me more cash that way

jojojo · 05-08-2002, 08:58 PM

I'm not interested in getting blacklisted by altering my galleries.

I want these fucking theives dealt with once and for all.

Still now responses from major sponsors... hmm..

still waiting...

Alky · 05-08-2002, 09:14 PM

why should a sponsor care what people are doing to you... they are making money and it is not their problem.

FreeHugeMovies · 05-09-2002, 12:31 AM

jojojo,

Just contact the webmaster for that site and tell him to black list your domain name and movies. A lot of webmasters have asked for this and he was nice about it.

jojojo · 05-09-2002, 01:29 AM

"why should a sponsor care what people are doing to you... they are making money and it is not their problem."

Doing business with theives should be an issue - they don't do business with poeple who blatently steal images and use them without licenses - hotlinking is the same thing if not worse.

Yes I know I can contact them and attempt to get them to not post anything from my domains, but how long is this going to continue?

How long are sponsors going to continue supporting this kind of abuse and theivery?

I am still waiting to hear from some sponsors and get their official position on doing business with these theives.

I am not going to rest until I hear what their opinion's are publically.

VeriSexy · 05-09-2002, 01:44 AM

Yeah I run a freehost that host large movies up to 1Mb is size and it's a bitch to stop hotlinkers. .htaccess doesn't work since wmp streams the movies. I guess I need a programmer to make a cgi or php script for it.

jojojo · 05-09-2002, 02:17 AM

What you need are the sponsors to shut these douche bags down.

I'm sure we will all get their official public position on this very soon - I am going to see to it.

VeNoM · 05-09-2002, 02:30 AM

im sure the sponsors wont give you shit that will make them look bad just my measly ass

funkmaster · 05-09-2002, 03:30 AM

"I'm sure we will all get their official public position on this very soon - I am going to see to it."

... good stuff !!

VeriSexy · 05-09-2002, 04:19 AM

Since sponsors are so sensitive about cheaters. They should add that to their TOS about bandwidth theft. Just more revenue for them if they have another reason to kick someone off and keep their money. People who like to steal content or bandwidth will cheat if they think they can get away with it. That's my 1/2 cent =)

cheque · 05-09-2002, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by http

blah blah blah

htaccess doens't work for movies and you know it

adding lines like this to a .htaccess file works great for me:

AuthType Basic
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.DOMAIN.com [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://DOMAIN.com [NC]
RewriteRule /* http://www.DOMAIN.com/forbidden.html [R,L]

jojojo · 05-09-2002, 12:58 PM

.htaccess is useless for blocking hotlinking of mpegs - and besides that is not the point of this thread.

Eventually some sponsors will respond to this msg with their official position... otherwise I will email every single one and post their replies here...

so save us all some time and start posting your public opinions on this matter guys

thanks

jojojo · 05-09-2002, 01:31 PM

Well, I just had a conversation with BossHawg from FreeEzineBucks and he has stated that they DO NOT support this kind of behaviour and is in the process of taking appropriate action against those that promote FEB in phatforums.com

Perhaps now we can hear from some more sponsors and get their positions as well.

Many people spend their hard earned money everyday in wasted/stolen b/w and this BS is going to stop.

There will be no programs left to promote for these theives once I am done with them.

Or we will know which sponsors support theft.

SleazyDream · 05-09-2002, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
anyone got a url ?
I'd be happy to bounce some theives early in the morning.

yeah right - you just wana recruit them.

05-08-2002, 04:33 AM	#1
jojojo Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 2,318	Why do sponsors allow theives to promote their programs? I am talking specifically about phatforums.com Most of these forums hotlink mpegs. Why do sponsors continue to support this kind of behaviour? This is pure bullshit. Please enlighten me as to why sponsors continue to do business with theives?

05-08-2002, 05:05 AM	#6
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	anyone got a url ? I'd be happy to bounce some theives early in the morning. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

05-08-2002, 01:22 PM	#8
jojojo Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 2,318	It does involve me because they are hotlinking my mpegs. I would like a public response from some major sponsors and an explanation from them why the continue to support theives like this. Lensman: I would like to hear from you because they are actively promoting AP and I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to know what your position is on this. Last edited by jojojo; 05-08-2002 at 01:23 PM..

05-08-2002, 03:03 PM	#11
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	Mojo jojo(jo)? __________________ ..and I'm off.

05-08-2002, 07:18 PM	#16
Rod Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: MTL, QC, CAN Posts: 1,243	Thats funny. .htaccess wont work with mpegs, yea, that is true....but hey, there is a lot of software that you can rename in *.avi to send all the traffic that is sent to this movie, to your sponsor... So when someone hotlink your movies, just use that script and redirect all the hits to your sponsors or sites... I personnally love to be hotlinked...it makes me more cash that way __________________ woohoo!

05-08-2002, 04:37 AM	#2
mrthumbs salad tossing sig guy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: mrthumbs*gmail.com Posts: 11,702	as long as it's not your problem.. dont worry about it.

05-08-2002, 04:46 AM	#4
mrthumbs salad tossing sig guy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: mrthumbs*gmail.com Posts: 11,702	sorry bout that.. in a smart-ass mood today..

05-08-2002, 04:50 AM	#5
SR Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,239	Fully agreed All sponsors should ban sites like that. I informed hosts and sponsors from movieforums but never got a reply. I mailed adultbouncer and boxfrog 2 or 3 weeks ago about this and never got an answer.

05-08-2002, 01:48 PM	#9
Milton Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Mauritius Posts: 1,118	go to work

05-08-2002, 02:39 PM	#10
cheque Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 259	If sponsor ban sites hotlinking mpeg or pictures they definately will harm more honest people then cheaters. There are lot's of people (including me) hotlinking from portal pages to content located to a central page. I'm using some catchy domain names hosted by quality hosting providers so that a gallery will load fast. They actual content I use is located on seperate domains. This way I don't need to upload content over and over again when I want to use it on new domains. I also All domains are protected by a .htaccess file to prevent sites not owned by me to hotlink my content. Compare your sited with shops in the 'normal' world. Everybody can visit a shop, but most shops prevent themselves with security portals to prevent 'customers' to leave without paying. Consider your sites as a shop to and prevent people to steal. I know it's very annoying when people are hotlinking and stealing your bandwidth. The solution for this problem is not banning sites, which are hotlinking but if you cathch someone hotlinking to your sites report the person to his/her host and the sponsor he/she is using and add a .htaccess file to your domain.

05-08-2002, 04:06 PM	#12
jojojo Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 2,318	"I know it's very annoying when people are hotlinking and stealing your bandwidth. The solution for this problem is not banning sites, which are hotlinking but if you cathch someone hotlinking to your sites report the person to his/her host and the sponsor he/she is using and add a .htaccess file to your domain." I am finding out first what sponsor's positions are first - so far no one has posted anything. Secondly it is impossible to use .htaccess to block the hotlinking of mpegs. This is bullshit and these fucking theives should be shut down. WHY ARE SPONSORS CONTINUING TO BUSINESS WITH THEIVES? I'm waiting for some responses...

05-08-2002, 05:43 PM	#14
jojojo Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 2,318	exactly... I am going to keep bumping this thread until I hear from some sponsors including Adult.com

05-08-2002, 06:55 PM	#15
jojojo Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 2,318	please respond with your position sponsors...

05-08-2002, 08:58 PM	#17
jojojo Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 2,318	I'm not interested in getting blacklisted by altering my galleries. I want these fucking theives dealt with once and for all. Still now responses from major sponsors... hmm.. still waiting...

05-08-2002, 09:14 PM	#18
Alky Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 5,651	why should a sponsor care what people are doing to you... they are making money and it is not their problem.

05-09-2002, 12:31 AM	#19
FreeHugeMovies Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 14,137	jojojo, Just contact the webmaster for that site and tell him to black list your domain name and movies. A lot of webmasters have asked for this and he was nice about it.

05-09-2002, 01:29 AM	#20
jojojo Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 2,318	"why should a sponsor care what people are doing to you... they are making money and it is not their problem." Doing business with theives should be an issue - they don't do business with poeple who blatently steal images and use them without licenses - hotlinking is the same thing if not worse. Yes I know I can contact them and attempt to get them to not post anything from my domains, but how long is this going to continue? How long are sponsors going to continue supporting this kind of abuse and theivery? I am still waiting to hear from some sponsors and get their official position on doing business with these theives. I am not going to rest until I hear what their opinion's are publically.

05-09-2002, 01:44 AM	#21
VeriSexy Join The Royal Family Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 25,463	Yeah I run a freehost that host large movies up to 1Mb is size and it's a bitch to stop hotlinkers. .htaccess doesn't work since wmp streams the movies. I guess I need a programmer to make a cgi or php script for it. __________________ Looking for a KICK ASS TEEN SPONSOR? Check out ROYAL CASH - THE KING OF TEEN! Incredible webmaster tools FHGs, Morphing Blog and RSS Feeds, Embedded FLV & WMV Videos. With TOP RATIO Sites like TeenStarsOnly.com - Earn $$ with our New Site & Bonus Payouts!! ATMovs.com \| iTeenVideo.com \| TeenSexMovs.com \| TeenSexMania.com

05-09-2002, 02:17 AM	#22
jojojo Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 2,318	What you need are the sponsors to shut these douche bags down. I'm sure we will all get their official public position on this very soon - I am going to see to it.

05-09-2002, 02:30 AM	#23
VeNoM Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 334	im sure the sponsors wont give you shit that will make them look bad just my measly ass __________________ Do not use a hatchet to remove a fly from a friend's forehead. -- VeeL Tech I make money with Oliver , do you?

05-09-2002, 03:30 AM	#24
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	"I'm sure we will all get their official public position on this very soon - I am going to see to it." ... good stuff !!

05-09-2002, 04:19 AM	#25
VeriSexy Join The Royal Family Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 25,463	Since sponsors are so sensitive about cheaters. They should add that to their TOS about bandwidth theft. Just more revenue for them if they have another reason to kick someone off and keep their money. People who like to steal content or bandwidth will cheat if they think they can get away with it. That's my 1/2 cent =) __________________ Looking for a KICK ASS TEEN SPONSOR? Check out ROYAL CASH - THE KING OF TEEN! Incredible webmaster tools FHGs, Morphing Blog and RSS Feeds, Embedded FLV & WMV Videos. With TOP RATIO Sites like TeenStarsOnly.com - Earn $$ with our New Site & Bonus Payouts!! ATMovs.com \| iTeenVideo.com \| TeenSexMovs.com \| TeenSexMania.com

05-09-2002, 12:58 PM	#27
jojojo Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 2,318	.htaccess is useless for blocking hotlinking of mpegs - and besides that is not the point of this thread. Eventually some sponsors will respond to this msg with their official position... otherwise I will email every single one and post their replies here... so save us all some time and start posting your public opinions on this matter guys thanks

05-09-2002, 01:31 PM	#28
jojojo Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 2,318	Well, I just had a conversation with BossHawg from FreeEzineBucks and he has stated that they DO NOT support this kind of behaviour and is in the process of taking appropriate action against those that promote FEB in phatforums.com Perhaps now we can hear from some more sponsors and get their positions as well. Many people spend their hard earned money everyday in wasted/stolen b/w and this BS is going to stop. There will be no programs left to promote for these theives once I am done with them. Or we will know which sponsors support theft.