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Old 04-18-2006, 08:54 PM   #51
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Old 04-18-2006, 09:36 PM   #52
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Looks real to me
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Old 04-18-2006, 10:42 PM   #53
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my friend of 16yrs works for the President with the Airforce One Jet and the Airforce One Chopper, i called him he said it was a true deal,
Im glad that he was a 'marine' for 16 yrs and he still can't give u the right information.

It is not called the "air force one chopper" is the "marine one".
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Old 04-19-2006, 01:17 AM   #54
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I dunno, it looks pretty real to me, I sat and watched it frame by frame for about an hour and whatever plane they are basing it on has the capability for inflight refueling. Now there are two Boeing 747-200B's -- tail numbers 28000 and 29000 -- with the Air Force designation VC-25A.

Its entirely possible that Mr. Ecko tagged one of the backup planes while the main Air Force One was ferrying Bush elsewhere.

Its also entirely possible to fake all of this with the budget Ecko has to play with and quite honestly I have to agree that whatever he paid for this will pay dividends for months and years to come before Snopes.com finally either debunks it, or posts the AFOSI report spilling the beans.
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Old 04-19-2006, 02:29 AM   #55
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"The fence would have been wired" -- No idea if this is true, but we'll assume it is. Notice how they cut through the first face and jump the second one. Maybe they knew only the second fens was wired, which if true certainly implies they had an inside connection to get security info.

"They would have confiscated the tape" -- Not if nobody saw them. Once it's online, you can't stop it.

"They would have arrested him" -- Already been pointed out that as a matter of national security they may not have pursued this.

"Security would have been tighter" -- Not necessarily. If Bush wasn't there then I doubt they would have had machine guns lined up around it.


Bottom line... If people have in the past penetrated Presidential security for assassination attempts, then there is no reason to think it is totally impossible to paint his airplane. Unlikely maybe, but not impossible. That would imply that they protected planes better than actual presidents.
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Old 04-19-2006, 03:30 AM   #56
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looks like its fake , but he really did have a good point there
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Old 04-19-2006, 04:04 AM   #57
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Prolly fake. But if it really happened, think of the shit that hit the fan when the tag was found!

If real, think Drudge would have reported it?
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Old 04-21-2006, 05:23 PM   #58
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OK, he's telling everyone how he did it now. Pretty clever.

WASHINGTON - A startling Internet video that shows someone spraying graffiti on President Bush's jet looked so authentic that the Air Force wasn't immediately certain whether the plane had been targeted.

It was all a hoax. No one actually sprayed the slogan "Still Free" on the cowling of Air Force One.

The pranksters responsible for the grainy, two-minute Web video ? employed by a New York fashion company ? revealed Friday how they pulled it off: a rented 747 in California painted to look almost exactly like Air Force One.

"I wanted to do something culturally significant, wanted to create a real pop-culture moment," said Marc Ecko of Marc Ecko Enterprises. "It's this completely irreverent, over-the-top thing that could really never happen: this five-dollar can of paint putting a pimple on this Goliath."

The video shows hooded graffiti artists climbing barbed-wire fences and sneaking past guards with dogs to approach the jumbo jet. They spray-paint a slogan associated with free expression.

After the video began circulating on the Web on Tuesday, the Air Force checked to see whether the plane had been vandalized.

"We're looking at it, too," said Lt. Col. Bruce Alexander, a spokesman for the Air Mobility Command's 89th Airlift Wing, which operates Air Force One. "It looks very real."

Alexander later confirmed that no such spray-painting had occurred.

Ecko acknowledged Friday that his company had rented a 747 cargo jet at San Bernardino's airport and covertly painted one side to look like Air Force One. Employees signed secrecy agreements and worked inside a giant hangar until the night the video was made. Ecko declined to say how much the stunt cost.

"It's not cheap," he said. "You have to be rich."
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Old 04-21-2006, 05:42 PM   #59
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maybe Air Force 2...even though the SP's around that installation dont play.....the fence doent seem to be much of a bother.....shit they have electrified fences and razor barbed wire at medium level correctional facilities.
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Old 04-21-2006, 06:36 PM   #60
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OK, he's telling everyone how he did it now. Pretty clever.

WASHINGTON - A startling Internet video that shows someone spraying graffiti on President Bush's jet looked so authentic that the Air Force wasn't immediately certain whether the plane had been targeted.

It was all a hoax. No one actually sprayed the slogan "Still Free" on the cowling of Air Force One.

The pranksters responsible for the grainy, two-minute Web video ? employed by a New York fashion company ? revealed Friday how they pulled it off: a rented 747 in California painted to look almost exactly like Air Force One.

"I wanted to do something culturally significant, wanted to create a real pop-culture moment," said Marc Ecko of Marc Ecko Enterprises. "It's this completely irreverent, over-the-top thing that could really never happen: this five-dollar can of paint putting a pimple on this Goliath."

The video shows hooded graffiti artists climbing barbed-wire fences and sneaking past guards with dogs to approach the jumbo jet. They spray-paint a slogan associated with free expression.

After the video began circulating on the Web on Tuesday, the Air Force checked to see whether the plane had been vandalized.

"We're looking at it, too," said Lt. Col. Bruce Alexander, a spokesman for the Air Mobility Command's 89th Airlift Wing, which operates Air Force One. "It looks very real."

Alexander later confirmed that no such spray-painting had occurred.

Ecko acknowledged Friday that his company had rented a 747 cargo jet at San Bernardino's airport and covertly painted one side to look like Air Force One. Employees signed secrecy agreements and worked inside a giant hangar until the night the video was made. Ecko declined to say how much the stunt cost.

"It's not cheap," he said. "You have to be rich."
lol that's funny that the Air Force even thought it may have been real.
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Old 04-21-2006, 08:26 PM   #61
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lol that's funny that the Air Force even thought it may have been real.
To have been a fly on the wall at the security office of the 89th Airlift Wing when that video was released...

Seriously, had Ecko not added that very telling legal disclaimer, I'd be willing to bet they could have rode this wave a few weeks before letting the cat out of the bag.
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Old 04-21-2006, 08:29 PM   #62
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