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american pervert · 04-16-2006, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

The death penalty just makes us as bad as the killers themself.

Obviously I agree that what the guy did is horrible but living with this locked up forever is far worse than getting the easy way out and just dieing and dieing a relatively easy death at that.

I do not see how killing the guy does anyone justice.

you if you take someones life, why should you get to live?

and yes, killing murderes makes us better. they arent innocent

woj · 04-16-2006, 04:09 PM

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pocketkangaroo · 04-16-2006, 04:19 PM

I agree with the death penalty but the system is pretty messed up now. The only instances it should be used is in cases that you are sure you have the right guy. The process should also be expedited. Right now guys can live on death row for 20 years. You should have 2 years, appeals get expedited, and if you don't win in those 2 years, goodnight.

I just get tired of this "he needs to be treated for an illness". It's too late, he fucked up. I don't want him in my society anymore and I wish to abolish him from the human race. Whether he suffers more on death row or in a prison cell the rest of his life, I don't care. I just want him off this planet.

I'm upset at the fact that we worry about the feelings of criminals. What is cruel, what is nice, what is the best way to get back at them. For those saying he'll get it in jail, he'll never spend a day in the general population. We protect criminals like that. Did he give two shits about this girl? Her family? Her friends? Fuck no. I say fuck him. Give him his trial, give him an appeal, and put a bullet in the son of a bitchs head.

Tipsy · 04-16-2006, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by american perv

you if you take someones life, why should you get to live?

and yes, killing murderes makes us better. they arent innocent

Shame the legal system is so fucked up that you also kill plenty that are innocent. Buy hey - as long as revenge is carried out who cares? After all, as you say you are so much better than all those that the legal system kills.

american pervert · 04-16-2006, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tipsy

Shame the legal system is so fucked up that you also kill plenty that are innocent. Buy hey - as long as revenge is carried out who cares? After all, as you say you are so much better than all those that the legal system kills.

we are talking about those of obvious guilt. when they find the dead girl in his closet, yes, he is 10000000000% guilty. no question. shoot him dead on the spot and move on. you dont need to have someone like that alive. bullets are cheaper then a life in prison.

wait til your mom/sister/daughter has the same thing happen to them, then talk to me

Webby · 04-16-2006, 04:54 PM

Some societies sure ain't come a long way since the Wild West days... I think they should introduce the guillotine in the US so any GFY member that wishes can have a front seat. A free supply of paper cups are useful to catch any blood.

In fact, it was not long ago they were hanging folks from trees - stuff a white hood on and hang a few more "hahahahahahas" - just because "we are superior". (Read "arrogance" - that also has not changed much)

Get a few nukes out and nuke the hell out of Iran, Iraq and any other "shit country".

As said previously - a society gets the returns of the seed it sows and the idiots within it don't help. There is always a payback time. Have a nice day!

Ordo · 04-16-2006, 04:57 PM

I think the guy should do life, and accidentally dropped into general population for a week (paperwork problem) and the gaurds turn their back for a half hour each day until the guy has an asshole large enough to crawl into, then stuff his ass full of moles, seal it up and stick him in solitary until he dies.

Dennis69 · 04-16-2006, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg B

Now that's the point I wanted to hear. America's justice system is built on protecting the innocent. Why? Because in colonial times the King allowed the brutal torture and imprisonment of citizens. It so shook up our ancestors that they put down laws to make sure that if you convict a person that person was convicted by a fair and square set of procedures. Unfortunately these procedures have allowed crime to thrive as even when you catch a guy red handed he can walk.

In this situation, dude was busted cold. Eating and raping and torturing children??? WTF? Shit cannot get lower than that. That's our worst fucking fear. Is he crazy? Fuck yeah. Is he responsible? Fuck yeah.

I don't give a shit what the fuck spawned a freak like him. Earth is better without him.

I wasn't talking about this case... I was just talking about the whole death penalty in general

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 04-16-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I couldn't agree more. Killing him is not a punishment, it's an escape for him. Instead, lock him up in a cold damp cell for the next sixy years of his life, feeding him only bread and water, until he dies. That's punishment.

That would be the best thing and then kill the fucker.

pocketkangaroo · 04-16-2006, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tipsy

Shame the legal system is so fucked up that you also kill plenty that are innocent. Buy hey - as long as revenge is carried out who cares? After all, as you say you are so much better than all those that the legal system kills.

So locking an innocent guy up the rest of his life is such a better fate than killing the occasional innocent man. The system isn't perfect, and there will always be the .00000001% who is found guilt when they are not and put on death row. I think with DNA evidence though, it's becoming less and less likely that a death row inmate is really innocent.

Fact is we can't build our judicial system around the small percent that is innocent but proven guilty. Those are issues in our court systems, judges, and district attorneys, not punishments.

Ramphix · 04-16-2006, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CuriousToyBoy

5 minutes alone in a room with me and a hammer.

BETTER than the death penalty.

2c

lmao great

Webby · 04-16-2006, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Fact is we can't build our judicial system around the small percent that is innocent but proven guilty. Those are issues in our court systems, judges, and district attorneys, not punishments.

Fact is, the US judicial system is the most fucked up system in the whole of the western world and a laughing stock (tho they sure ain't laughing too loud - it's too sad) of international jurists.

That is not to say there are numerous excellent jurists within the system - simply the system stinks.

You ever wondered why there are not that many US jurists on benches outside the US? It's not by accident.

Drake · 04-16-2006, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

I do support the death penalty but I do not support it currently. Until the time comes where we can always be 100% certain in every single case that the person being found guilty is the right person, I personally will still oppose it. Then and only then I would only want it used in the most extreme of situations.

I think in the past 25 years or so something like 69 death row inmates were found to be innocent and released thanks in large part to the advances in DNA.

I can't say that I will never support the death penatly because in the past I have, but it is something that should never be taken lightly. People have asked me, "well what about Hitler, you mean you wouldn't fry him?". I say I wouldn't. Why do you think he commited suicide? Because he knew that was the easiest way out.

Alex · 04-16-2006, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by twisted Illustration

Ok... this is how it should work ....

SOLITARY confinement the REST of his life ... FORCED to live ... so he can't starve himself ... however ... he get's let out for 1 hour a day to be beaten the fuck out of by the other inmates....

That's punishment. Not the death penalty.

Fucking twisted freak.

Also upwards of $50k per year to the tax payers.
I believe a bullet to the head cost less.

Webby · 04-16-2006, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Also upwards of $50k per year to the tax payers.
I believe a bullet to the head cost less.

Yea.. nothing like a cost effective dollar value is there?

All and any human life is well behind the value of a greenback - including a justice system. Can understand now why there is little improvement after Katrina.

I got some cheap rope, but that maybe more expensive than a cheap bullet

nico-t · 04-16-2006, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by twisted Illustration

Ok... this is how it should work ....

SOLITARY confinement the REST of his life ... FORCED to live ... so he can't starve himself ... however ... he get's let out for 1 hour a day to be beaten the fuck out of by the other inmates....

That's punishment. Not the death penalty.

Fucking twisted freak.

exactly...

nico-t · 04-16-2006, 06:28 PM

btw the guy also blogged about his crazy ass thoughts according to this http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/04/16/un....ap/index.html
no url is given out though

JD · 04-16-2006, 06:30 PM

the family should be able to decide the punishment. and have it ACTUALLY carried out. regardless of what it is. People like this deserve no mercy. If the family wants him hung by his balls, skinned with a dull knife and beaten with a spiked whiffle ball bat, so be it.

he didn't show mercy, why should he receive it.

GatorB · 04-16-2006, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg B

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/04/15/ok....irl/index.html

Only the strong should read that story. It's shit like this that just sends me off the deep end. Dude should be taken out and sun dried after a thousand cuts.

Yeah as a human and a parent I would want to kill they guy. As a society we should be better than them.

This guy will be locked away forever. now taking away MY freedom is pretty serious punishment. Second he will most likely be anally raped repeatedly in prison being exposed to Hep C and AIDS many times and forced to suck nasty disease riddled cocks AFTER they have been put up his ass. He will be beat up and live in fear of a horrifying death everyday. He may one day be shanked to death.

Or we can put him on death row were he gets a cell to himself for years and years with no fear of being raped or beaten or stabbed and then he will be put to sleep gently as you would do the family dog who was diagnosed with cancer. Frankly if I had the choice between the death penalty and life in prison with parole I'd take death in a heartbeat. I'd BEG the jury for it.

Just remember if Jefferey Dahmer had gotten he death penalty he would still be alive today. And his death would have been much less painful than what it was.

GatorB · 04-16-2006, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

the family should be able to decide the punishment. and have it ACTUALLY carried out. regardless of what it is. People like this deserve no mercy. If the family wants him hung by his balls, skinned with a dull knife and beaten with a spiked whiffle ball bat, so be it.

he didn't show mercy, why should he receive it.

because we do not live in the year 1306 or in the middle east.

JD · 04-16-2006, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

because we do not live in the year 1306 or in the middle east.

so um.....you think he deserves mercy? if so you're the biggest pansy ass pussy ever.

pornguy · 04-16-2006, 06:43 PM

I am a firm believer that the punishment should fit the crime. Hit him in the head with a wooden cutting board a few times, and then put duct tape over his mouth, and a hand on his nose. Let him die the same way she did.

GatorB · 04-16-2006, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

so um.....you think he deserves mercy? if so you're the biggest pansy ass pussy ever.

No you are no better than him.

Drake · 04-16-2006, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Yeah as a human and a parent I would want to kill they guy. As a society we should be better than them.

This guy will be locked away forever. now taking away MY freedom is pretty serious punishment. Second he will most likely be anally raped repeatedly in prison being exposed to Hep C and AIDS many times and forced to suck nasty disease riddled cocks AFTER they have been put up his ass. He will be beat up and live in fear of a horrifying death everyday. He may one day be shanked to death.

Or we can put him on death row were he gets a cell to himself for years and years with no fear of being raped or beaten or stabbed and then he will be put to sleep gently as you would do the family dog who was diagnosed with cancer. Frankly if I had the choice between the death penalty and life in prison with parole I'd take death in a heartbeat. I'd BEG the jury for it.

Just remember if Jefferey Dahmer had gotten he death penalty he would still be alive today. And his death would have been much less painful than what it was.

I don't think that they usually put child rapists and child murderers in with the general prison population. So those things mentioned aren't likely to happen to him.

GatorB · 04-16-2006, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

I don't think that they usually put child rapists and child murderers in with the general prison population. So those things mentioned aren't likely to happen to him.

Tell that to Dahmer.

GregE · 04-16-2006, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

The death penalty just makes us as bad as the killers themself.

Obviously I agree that what the guy did is horrible but living with this locked up forever is far worse than getting the easy way out and just dying and dying a relatively easy death at that.

Who says he'll be locked up forever?

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I do not see how killing the guy does anyone justice.

Ever hear of a dude by the name of Lawrence Singleton?

That is why we need a death penalty.

pocketkangaroo · 04-16-2006, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Yeah as a human and a parent I would want to kill they guy. As a society we should be better than them.

How is not killing him being "better than them"? If a member of our society chooses to severely disrupt and prove not to be capable of living in it, he should be killed. Where in the development of species have we shown compassionate for people like this? Why is it our responsibility to provide live immenities for a guy that I don't want in our society? If 99.9999999999999999999999% of the population wants the guy to go away, why can't we kill him?

The problem we run into is even taking into consideration what a person like this thinks or feels. Who cares if killing him is an easier punishment? Who cares if having him live in general population sucks? Maybe the family should be able to decide. Maybe the community should be able to decide.

And for those saying he'll be ass-raped and beaten, it won't happen. This isn't OZ. Most of these guys are never in the general population. I believe the Dahmer incident was actually a security gaffe that put the two together.

I just think the quicker these guys are off the planet, the better.

c-lo · 04-16-2006, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

I am a firm believer that the punishment should fit the crime. Hit him in the head with a wooden cutting board a few times, and then put duct tape over his mouth, and a hand on his nose. Let him die the same way she did.

I second that notion.

later
c-lo

robfantasy · 04-16-2006, 08:09 PM

i think if you are a repeat menace to society (3 strikes your out) you should be executed immediately.

the only people who should serve life sentences are sick fucks like this, because living in solitary confinement for the rest of your life is the worst punishment.

JD · 04-16-2006, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

No you are no better than him.

I wonder how you'd feel if some random asshole killed your kid.Put yourself in this situation and tell me how you'd react.

You're at home eating dinner when some freak busts in your house, knocks your ass out, then proceeds to tie you up and rape then violently murder your family. Then, upon you regaining consciencousness, the murderer unties you and says, "Punish me" what would you do? Call the cops and have him arrested? Of course not, you'd remove his heart with your bare hands. I know I would. And if you even say you'd have him arrested so he can face "trial" then you are a failure at life.

After Shock Media · 04-16-2006, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

I think in the past 25 years or so something like 69 death row inmates were found to be innocent and released thanks in large part to the advances in DNA.

Very true, sadly still many states will not test inmates via DNA and/or there is no DNA to test against. Other element people seem to forget about DNA testing aside from how expensive it is, it is nothing like we see on CSI. There are no take this down to the other end of the office and have it to me by the end of the shift testing going on. Typically it can and does take months to get results back. When someone high up says put a rush on it, that does not mean have it to me by lunch time, it really means get it to me in 60 days and not 90 please.

Hell want some real outrage, many local police stations have unsolved rapes and other violent crimes where they do have possible DNA yet they still do not test because they just do not have the funds to do so.

Greg B · 04-17-2006, 07:53 AM

Oh, dude was an even more twisted fuck than we could imagine. Now it's reported he had a fucking blog where he wrote all this shit on? Dude was begging to be arrested. Now it's reported he was discussing his delusions after not taking his anti-depressent drugs? WTF is it with these anti-depressent drugs? Why is it some people can take em' and some can't? Somebody needs to look into this shit quick.

The grisly details of this murder are too heartbreaking. I can't imagine the terror that little girl went through. The nightmares her family and kids nearby and around the world who will hear this story will have. I don't care how crazy that sonofabitch is, it manifested itself in an act of violence incomprehensible by most humans. He has got to fucking go....immediately

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pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	I agree with the death penalty but the system is pretty messed up now. The only instances it should be used is in cases that you are sure you have the right guy. The process should also be expedited. Right now guys can live on death row for 20 years. You should have 2 years, appeals get expedited, and if you don't win in those 2 years, goodnight. I just get tired of this "he needs to be treated for an illness". It's too late, he fucked up. I don't want him in my society anymore and I wish to abolish him from the human race. Whether he suffers more on death row or in a prison cell the rest of his life, I don't care. I just want him off this planet. I'm upset at the fact that we worry about the feelings of criminals. What is cruel, what is nice, what is the best way to get back at them. For those saying he'll get it in jail, he'll never spend a day in the general population. We protect criminals like that. Did he give two shits about this girl? Her family? Her friends? Fuck no. I say fuck him. Give him his trial, give him an appeal, and put a bullet in the son of a bitchs head.

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nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	btw the guy also blogged about his crazy ass thoughts according to this http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/04/16/un....ap/index.html no url is given out though

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JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	the family should be able to decide the punishment. and have it ACTUALLY carried out. regardless of what it is. People like this deserve no mercy. If the family wants him hung by his balls, skinned with a dull knife and beaten with a spiked whiffle ball bat, so be it. he didn't show mercy, why should he receive it.

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Greg B So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: EARTH (for the time being) Posts: 7,014	Oh, dude was an even more twisted fuck than we could imagine. Now it's reported he had a fucking blog where he wrote all this shit on? Dude was begging to be arrested. Now it's reported he was discussing his delusions after not taking his anti-depressent drugs? WTF is it with these anti-depressent drugs? Why is it some people can take em' and some can't? Somebody needs to look into this shit quick. The grisly details of this murder are too heartbreaking. I can't imagine the terror that little girl went through. The nightmares her family and kids nearby and around the world who will hear this story will have. I don't care how crazy that sonofabitch is, it manifested itself in an act of violence incomprehensible by most humans. He has got to fucking go....immediately