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|  04-13-2006, 05:55 PM | #1 | 
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				WEBAIR - Why do you do business with spammers ??
			 Why do you guys host ref.log spammers. do the right thing and take this shit down. PING any-poker.com (69.42.67.198): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 69.42.67.198: icmp_seq=0 ttl=57 time=8.782 ms 64 bytes from 69.42.67.198: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=8.365 ms 64 bytes from 69.42.67.198: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=8.886 ms # traceroute 69.42.67.198 traceroute to 69.42.67.198 (69.42.67.198), 64 hops max, 44 byte packets 5 OC48-POS6-0.mtl-bvh-cor-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.77) 0.920 ms 0.872 ms 0.966 ms 6 OC48POS4-0.mtl-core-a.peer1.net (216.187.90.45) 0.908 ms 0.975 ms 0.783 ms 7 OC48-POS2-0.nyc-telx-dis-a.peer1.net (216.187.115.130) 8.177 ms 8.103 ms 8.070 ms 8 OC48-POS3-0.nyc-teleh-dis-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.166) 8.461 ms 8.573 ms 8.170 ms 9 nyiix.NYC2.webair.net (198.32.160.100) 9.084 ms 8.700 ms 8.889 ms 10 csa010.nyc.webair.net (209.200.31.42) 9.435 ms 9.028 ms 8.638 ms 11 *^X^C | 
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|  04-13-2006, 06:00 PM | #2 | 
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				 | I doubt they know. They likely wouldn't want any IP's blacklisted. | 
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|  04-13-2006, 06:01 PM | #3 | 
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				 | Didn't you make a thread like this the other day. Why not bump it? 
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|  04-13-2006, 06:02 PM | #4 | 
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				 | no offense but you come on here slamming casino sites with a casino name , you sound more like someone bent on hurting your competition.. How do you know that site sent the original hit ? I could fake your site as a ref hit , doesnt mean your doing it. I suggest if you have evidence to suggest its harassment you should post it directly to webair , not the board.. I can post anyones traceroute and claim he is a spammer , doesnt make them a spammer. 
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|  04-13-2006, 06:03 PM | #5 | 
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				 | because they pay the bill | 
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|  04-13-2006, 06:06 PM | #6 | 
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				 | might be annoying but its not illegal. 
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|  04-13-2006, 06:10 PM | #7 | |
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|  04-13-2006, 06:59 PM | #8 | 
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				 | https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/596659-cavecreek-loves-spammers.html https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/597315-multacom-com-loves-spammers.html give it a break I'm sure they don't know about this try letting them know about it 
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|  04-13-2006, 08:07 PM | #9 | 
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				 | Seriously quit fucking crying about spam, I can assure you nobody cares... If you care so much, get out of the porn business and join a lowlife anti spam ring. 
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|  04-13-2006, 08:40 PM | #10 | 
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				 | WebAir is a well known Spamhaus and has hosted numerous ROKSO spammers, scammers, and various scumbags and criminals over the last 2-3 years I've been watching them. By taking money from this type of vermin, they prove they are no better. Although, they appear to have cleaned up their act in the last couple of months, at least in terms of SBL & ROKSO spammers, a few months of good behavior hardly makes up for years of SPAM support for some of the worst spammers in the world. | 
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|  04-13-2006, 08:49 PM | #12 | 
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				 | You need to do some more homework before you bash a well known host on this board.  Have all 14 of your posts been about so called spammers? -Sparks | 
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|  04-13-2006, 09:03 PM | #13 | 
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				 | I am so sick of this ignorance... in a couple of years spam will be a word that is forgotten. There WILL be commercial activity via EMAIL, get fucking used to it! | 
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|  04-13-2006, 10:08 PM | #14 | 
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				 | The irony of porno pushers bitching about spam.. It's hilarious.. Shut up and live with it, or unplug your computer. Plus, you'd be a moron to call Spamhaus a credible source, what with all their bullshit rhetoric and propoganda. That's like saying KIKS actually serves a purpose 
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|  04-13-2006, 11:25 PM | #16 | 
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				 | Says a typical lowlife porno pusher, next time formulate an argument instead of embarassing yourself with personal attacks. 
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|  04-13-2006, 11:29 PM | #17 | 
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				 | your an idiot there is nothing illegal about ref spamming and any hosting company that will kick you for it is probably run by a bunch of idiots. 
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|  04-13-2006, 11:52 PM | #18 | 
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				 | thank you 
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|  04-14-2006, 12:29 AM | #19 | 
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				 | ref spammer <-   I can see people bitching about mailers, spyware installers, etc, but come on ref spammers?  
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|  04-14-2006, 12:44 AM | #20 | 
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				 | Wow your cracking down my man, good luck with it all. I agree spam is spam. Bulk unsolicited contact, it hurts the internet more then anything else. And besides a quick couple bucks if that doesn't anyone good. | 
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|  04-15-2006, 04:58 AM | #21 | 
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				 | webair still loves the dirty money, you guys rock !! PING credit-card-check.com (209.200.11.105): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 209.200.11.105: icmp_seq=0 ttl=57 time=8.669 ms 64 bytes from 209.200.11.105: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=8.534 ms 64 bytes from 209.200.11.105: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=8.357 ms 64 bytes from 209.200.11.105: icmp_seq=3 ttl=57 time=8.415 ms 64 bytes from 209.200.11.105: icmp_seq=4 ttl=57 time=8.428 ms 64 bytes from 209.200.11.105: icmp_seq=5 ttl=57 time=8.498 ms 5 OC48POS5-0.mtl-core-a.peer1.net (65.39.166.173) 1.004 ms 0.972 ms 0.689 ms 6 OC48-POS2-0.nyc-telx-dis-a.peer1.net (216.187.115.130) 8.303 ms 7.747 ms 7.972 ms 7 OC48-POS3-0.nyc-teleh-dis-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.166) 8.218 ms 8.220 ms 8.355 ms 8 nyiix.NYC2.webair.net (198.32.160.100) 8.134 ms 8.329 ms 8.518 ms 9 csa010.nyc.webair.net (209.200.31.42) 8.906 ms 8.620 ms 9.264 ms | 
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|  04-15-2006, 04:58 AM | #22 | |
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|  04-15-2006, 05:00 AM | #23 | 
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				 | Whats the fucking point of this? They DO have icq and email you know. | 
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|  04-15-2006, 07:13 AM | #24 | 
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				 | Go fuck yourself.. This isnt webiars support board. If you have an issue with them.. take it there. | 
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|  04-15-2006, 09:48 AM | #25 | 
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				 | Finally someone with less post then me,, I say grab some bread and make a spamwich...  | 
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|  04-15-2006, 01:44 PM | #26 | 
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				 | I enjoy the love here, amazing how people care about this problem allthough everyone get's his piece of the bandwith bill. keep going webair, you guys rock !! PING debt-consolidation-organization.com (209.200.11.105): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 209.200.11.105: icmp_seq=0 ttl=57 time=8.579 ms 64 bytes from 209.200.11.105: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=8.751 ms 64 bytes from 209.200.11.105: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=8.666 ms 5 OC48POS5-0.mtl-core-a.peer1.net (65.39.166.173) 0.856 ms 0.945 ms 0.514 ms 6 OC48-POS2-0.nyc-telx-dis-a.peer1.net (216.187.115.130) 8.368 ms 8.197 ms 7.944 ms 7 OC48-POS3-0.nyc-teleh-dis-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.166) 8.606 ms 8.654 ms 8.307 ms 8 nyiix.NYC2.webair.net (198.32.160.100) 22.336 ms 226.687 ms 220.400 ms 9 csa010.nyc.webair.net (209.200.31.42) 8.197 ms 9.005 ms 8.683 ms | 
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|  04-15-2006, 01:53 PM | #27 | |
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				 | Quote: 
 simply search google for "debt-consolidation-organization.com" | |
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|  04-16-2006, 04:55 PM | #28 | 
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				 | PING finance-here.com (69.42.67.197): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 69.42.67.197: icmp_seq=0 ttl=57 time=8.665 ms 64 bytes from 69.42.67.197: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=8.426 ms 64 bytes from 69.42.67.197: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=8.634 ms 64 bytes from 69.42.67.197: icmp_seq=3 ttl=57 time=9.451 ms 4 66.199.153.110 (66.199.153.110) 0.596 ms 1.144 ms 0.624 ms 5 OC48-POS6-0.mtl-bvh-cor-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.77) 0.596 ms 0.720 ms 0.750 ms 6 OC48POS5-0.mtl-core-a.peer1.net (65.39.166.173) 1.010 ms 0.660 ms 0.831 ms 7 OC48-POS2-0.nyc-telx-dis-a.peer1.net (216.187.115.130) 7.761 ms 8.331 ms 7.781 ms 8 OC48-POS3-0.nyc-teleh-dis-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.166) 8.394 ms 8.724 ms 9.304 ms 9 nyiix.NYC2.webair.net (198.32.160.100) 8.787 ms 8.600 ms 8.863 ms 10 csa080.nyc.webair.net (209.200.31.26) 8.524 ms 8.171 ms 8.508 ms | 
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|  04-16-2006, 04:59 PM | #29 | 
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				 | ? im confused ? | 
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|  04-16-2006, 05:01 PM | #30 | 
| ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer 
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				 | dude pinging some random sites doesnt prove anything , if any host pulled someones sites because some no-named troll started pinging there server they shouldnt be doing biz.. Furthermore what gives you the right to ping there servers but they cant ping your server ? 
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|  04-16-2006, 05:05 PM | #31 | |
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				 | Quote: 
 go to referrercop.org and search for the IPs | |
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|  04-17-2006, 09:07 PM | #32 | 
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				 | keep going webair, bottom line is you will have to shut this shit down eventually. PING famous-hotel.com (69.42.67.198): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 69.42.67.198: icmp_seq=0 ttl=57 time=9.291 ms 64 bytes from 69.42.67.198: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=8.532 ms 64 bytes from 69.42.67.198: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=8.458 ms 6 OC48POS4-0.mtl-core-a.peer1.net (216.187.90.45) 1.354 ms 1.032 ms 0.871 ms 7 OC48-POS2-0.nyc-telx-dis-a.peer1.net (216.187.115.130) 7.998 ms 8.682 ms 8.377 ms 8 OC48-POS3-0.nyc-teleh-dis-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.166) 8.521 ms 8.709 ms 8.041 ms 9 nyiix.NYC2.webair.net (198.32.160.100) 9.135 ms 8.238 ms 8.419 ms 10 csa010.nyc.webair.net (209.200.31.42) 8.633 ms 9.979 ms 8.677 ms Webair does not tolerate SPAM of any kind! Upon first offence, we will issue a warning to offender. If we receive multiple complaints the account will be terminated. STAND UP TO YOUR WORDS | 
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|  04-17-2006, 09:13 PM | #33 | 
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				 | i'm pretty sure webair doesn't knowingly host *illegal* spammers. they have WAY to many people to answer to. | 
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|  04-17-2006, 09:18 PM | #34 | 
| making it rain Industry Role:  Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle 
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				 | Why should a hosting company care about ref spam? | 
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|  04-17-2006, 09:19 PM | #35 | |
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				 | Quote: 
 If any host shuts down a site based on this guys vague insinuations , i want to know so i can stay WELL aware , and i will make sure to inform others that your an untrustworthy host 
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|  04-17-2006, 11:51 PM | #36 | 
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				 | They can do buisness with whoever the fuck they want. Go kill yourself and retire your fake nick. | 
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|  04-17-2006, 11:54 PM | #37 | |
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 1) go to referrercop.org 2) use webair IP (69.42.67.197) 3) very important "look at search results" no comes the tricky part, we are going to copy the first domain name, this is done by highlighting it (advice-2000.info) and then we will press "CTRL C" 4.) now we go to the google searchengine, located at google.com 5.) click the search input field, then press "CTRL V" 6.) wow, advice-2000.info shows up, it's magic I hope you could follow me, no comes the tricky part 7) look at the search result. wow, nothing there, that's amazing. 8) no click "contain the term" 9) still don't understand, do the same with always-casino.com, then ask yourself why a banned domain has 116,000 references. | |
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|  04-17-2006, 11:55 PM | #38 | 
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				 | From personal experience, if you notify them of it they will put a stop to it... 
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|  04-17-2006, 11:59 PM | #39 | |
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 you need to expose them here to make it stop. | |
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|  04-18-2006, 06:06 AM | #40 | 
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				 | another ref spamming hosted by webair, same IP, same webmaster. PING 2handjobs.com (209.200.2.107): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 209.200.2.107: icmp_seq=0 ttl=57 time=9.536 ms 64 bytes from 209.200.2.107: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=8.951 ms 64 bytes from 209.200.2.107: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=8.874 ms 5 OC48-POS6-0.mtl-bvh-cor-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.77) 0.657 ms 0.604 ms 0.799 ms 6 OC48POS5-0.mtl-core-a.peer1.net (65.39.166.173) 0.926 ms 1.043 ms 1.085 ms 7 OC48-POS2-0.nyc-telx-dis-a.peer1.net (216.187.115.130) 8.155 ms 7.958 ms 8.075 ms 8 OC48-POS3-0.nyc-teleh-dis-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.166) 8.395 ms 8.486 ms 8.209 ms 9 nyiix.NYC2.webair.net (198.32.160.100) 9.439 ms 9.007 ms 8.889 ms 10 csa010.nyc.webair.net (209.200.31.42) 12.452 ms 11.887 ms 8.465 ms 11 209.200.2.107 (209.200.2.107) 9.396 ms 8.945 ms 8.608 ms The principle I?m complaining about is the particularly loathsome habit on the part of the weblog spammers of referrer log spamming. This is where they are trying to get their websites mentioned on referrer pages, ie. weblogs which show where people have visited from. This is so easy to spam simply by writing a tool which fetches weblog pages repeatedly with their site in the referrer field. At first I thought it was harmless, but when you add up the sheer number of pages they fetch it really gets quite scary. It also polluted the count of how many people visit my website (at least until I installed a cookie based system, which they don?t affect). Out of the thousands of pages that are fetched each day from this site, only a quarter to a third are actually genuine people. The rest are spammers with entirely suspicious URL?s in the referrer field. This is a waste of my money, and I don?t like other people wasting what is mine. | 
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|  04-18-2006, 06:12 AM | #41 | 
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				 | ive done ref spamming, its f harmless | 
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|  04-18-2006, 07:09 AM | #42 | 
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				 | make your weblogs pass protected. its as easy as that. 
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|  04-18-2006, 07:32 AM | #43 | 
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				 | dude ,learn something | 
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|  04-18-2006, 07:36 AM | #44 | 
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				 |    your thread went totally in the wrong direction, lmfaooooooooo  take a look at how many people support webiar   now why dont you post under your real nick? | 
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|  04-18-2006, 08:55 AM | #45 | 
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				 | cry about it lol  | 
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|  04-18-2006, 01:27 PM | #46 | |
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 Doing the right thing will not get the attention of the stupid. PING hotels-options.com (69.42.67.197): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 69.42.67.197: icmp_seq=0 ttl=57 time=8.481 ms 64 bytes from 69.42.67.197: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=8.543 ms 64 bytes from 69.42.67.197: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=9.032 ms 6 OC48POS5-0.mtl-core-a.peer1.net (65.39.166.173) 0.895 ms 1.021 ms 1.059 ms 7 OC48-POS2-0.nyc-telx-dis-a.peer1.net (216.187.115.130) 8.132 ms 8.016 ms 8.400 ms 8 OC48-POS3-0.nyc-teleh-dis-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.166) 8.489 ms 8.652 ms 8.244 ms 9 nyiix.NYC2.webair.net (198.32.160.100) 8.397 ms 8.730 ms 8.953 ms 10 csa080.nyc.webair.net (209.200.31.26) 8.619 ms 9.103 ms 9.180 ms | |
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|  04-18-2006, 01:32 PM | #47 | 
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				 | cavecreek won't host this stuff jupiterhosting does not touch it powermedium stays away from it webair does, thumbs up, outstanding job people !! traceroute favorites-hotels.com traceroute to favorites-hotels.com (69.42.67.198), 64 hops max, 44 byte packets 6 OC48POS4-0.mtl-core-a.peer1.net (216.187.90.45) 1.084 ms 1.074 ms 0.849 ms 7 OC48-POS2-0.nyc-telx-dis-a.peer1.net (216.187.115.130) 8.399 ms 8.242 ms 8.378 ms 8 OC48-POS3-0.nyc-teleh-dis-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.166) 8.451 ms 8.544 ms 9.544 ms 9 nyiix.NYC2.webair.net (198.32.160.100) 9.347 ms 8.897 ms 9.021 ms 10 csa010.nyc.webair.net (209.200.31.42) 9.301 ms 8.754 ms 8.968 ms | 
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|  04-18-2006, 01:33 PM | #48 | 
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				 | Dude get a life seriously | 
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|  04-18-2006, 02:30 PM | #49 | |
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|  04-19-2006, 10:59 PM | #50 | 
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				 | traceroute finance-results.com traceroute to finance-results.com (69.42.75.110), 64 hops max, 44 byte packets 5 OC48-POS6-0.mtl-bvh-cor-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.77) 0.855 ms 0.985 ms 0.640 ms 6 OC48POS5-0.mtl-core-a.peer1.net (65.39.166.173) 0.457 ms 0.832 ms 0.759 ms 7 OC48-POS2-0.nyc-telx-dis-a.peer1.net (216.187.115.130) 8.207 ms 8.418 ms 7.698 ms 8 OC48-POS3-0.nyc-teleh-dis-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.166) 8.379 ms 7.985 ms 8.190 ms 9 nyiix.NYC2.webair.net (198.32.160.100) 8.473 ms 8.821 ms 8.702 ms google.com /search?q=%22finance-results.com%22 | 
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