Letter to President Bush ? I?m heading to Mexico

[iBanker]

Dear President Bush,

I am about to plan a little trip with my family and extended family, and I would like to ask you to assist me. I?m going to walk across the border from the U.S. (where I am a citizen) into Mexico, and I need to make a few arrangements. I know you can help with this.

I plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws. I?m sure they handle those things the same way you do here.

So would you mind telling your buddy, Presidente Vicente Fox, that I am on my way over? Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:

1. Free medical care for me and my entire family.

2. English speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.

3. All government forms need to be printed in English.

4. I want my kids to be taught by English speaking teachers.

5. Schools need to include classes on American culture and history.

6. I want my kids to see the American flag flying on the top of the flag pole at their school with the Mexican flag flying lower down.

7. Please plan to feed my kids at school for both breakfast and lunch while they attend your schools at your cost.

8. Please make them eligible for government scholarships and student loans for college, should we stay illegally for a longer period of time. Make sure they do not try to collect and money from the loans, as we have no intention of repaying them.

9. I will need a Mexican driver?s license so I can get easy access to government services.

10. I do not plan to have any auto insurance, and I won?t make any effort to learn local traffic laws.

11. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from Presidente Fox to leave me alone, please be sure that all police officers speak English.

12. I plan to fly the US flag from my house top, put flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.

13. I would also like to have a nice job without paying taxes, and don?t enforce any labor laws or tax laws.

14. Please tell all the people in the country to be extremely nice and never say a critical word about me, or about the strain I might place on the economy.

I know this is an easy request, because you already do all these things for all the people who come to the USA from Mexico. I am sure that Presidente Fox won?t mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely.

Sincerely,

A US citizen




A friend of mine sent this to me, I didn?t write it, and I am not sure who did, but interesting nonetheless.

[pornguy]

It is from someone that has no fucking clue to what they are dealing with in ref to the immigration problems.

And ANYONE that would take an education from a child from any country, is just a piece of shit.

[iBanker]

Originally Posted by pornguy

And ANYONE that would take an education from a child from any country, is just a piece of shit.

So, just to clarify then, Mexico is just a piece of shit? I can't have my kids go there for a free education, can I?

[seven]

Maybe first you'd like to take suggestions from your grandparents who came to the U.S. illegally before bothering the Pres with your rhetoric

[iBanker]

Originally Posted by seven

Maybe first you'd like to take suggestions from your grandparents who came to the U.S. illegally before bothering the Pres with your rhetoric

My Grandparents came here legally.

[JDog]

This is actually the second version that I've seen in the past few days. And I'm 100% liking them.

All this bullshit about the illegals getting their fucking rights. Fuck your rights, you have none until you become a citizen. Sorry for a wab to come over the border and fucking get on welfare is just fucking bullshit. Use my system that I pay taxes into and sit on your ass and have 20 fucking kids. Fuck that shit.

I'm not against all of the illegals that come over the border, but a lot of them tend to think they deserve much more than they really do. I also do have some friends that were illegals, but they became citizens, they made their own businesses. The ones I can't stand are the ones that are using our system, deport them, deport the whitetrash too that are using our system, we don't need them in the USA.

[seven]

Originally Posted by iBanker

My Grandparents came here legally.

Really? Did the natives of the U.S. send out an invitation to your granparents in some hunger-striken poor Itallian village requesting them to migrate to the U.S.? or did they approve their moving to their land after gracefully? If neither, your grandparents came here as illegally as any .45 cents mexican Jose

[iBanker]

Originally Posted by JDog

This is actually the second version that I've seen in the past few days. And I'm 100% liking them.

All this bullshit about the illegals getting their fucking rights. Fuck your rights, you have none until you become a citizen. Sorry for a wab to come over the border and fucking get on welfare is just fucking bullshit. Use my system that I pay taxes into and sit on your ass and have 20 fucking kids. Fuck that shit.

I'm not against all of the illegals that come over the border, but a lot of them tend to think they deserve much more than they really do. I also do have some friends that were illegals, but they became citizens, they made their own businesses. The ones I can't stand are the ones that are using our system, deport them, deport the whitetrash too that are using our system, we don't need them in the USA.

I think you will find that you are the minoirty here on this subject. I got my ass chewed in the past for conversations just like this. I agree with your general statement though.

[iBanker]

Originally Posted by seven

Really? Did the natives of the U.S. send out an invitation to your granparents in some hunger-striken poor Itallian village requesting them to migrate to the U.S.? or did they approve their moving to their land after gracefully? If neither, your grandparents came here as illegally as any .45 cents mexican Jose

Not true at all. The laws at the time that my Grandparents came here were much more open, done for a number of reasons.

Immigrants were invited to this country at that time, should they fill out the proper paperwork, and prove they had a trade that would contribute to the general economy. I understand that the paperwork may have been much less, but nonetheless, their migration here was 100% legal, they obtained social security numbers legally, learned the language, raised a family, and did it all by the book.

What they did not do is pile into the trunk of a car (or boat in their time...lol) and illegally enter the country. Rules are rules.

[seven]

Originally Posted by JDog

This is actually the second version that I've seen in the past few days. And I'm 100% liking them.

All this bullshit about the illegals getting their fucking rights. Fuck your rights, you have none until you become a citizen. Sorry for a wab to come over the border and fucking get on welfare is just fucking bullshit. Use my system that I pay taxes into and sit on your ass and have 20 fucking kids. Fuck that shit.

I'm not against all of the illegals that come over the border, but a lot of them tend to think they deserve much more than they really do. I also do have some friends that were illegals, but they became citizens, they made their own businesses. The ones I can't stand are the ones that are using our system, deport them, deport the whitetrash too that are using our system, we don't need them in the USA.

I agree. Actually think maybe the govt should make provisions on their legal papers so that the illegals now can never get on welfare unless they became seriously handicapped after living in the U.S. for many years, maybe no medic either buy your own health insurance. Yet I have a feeling these illegals would still take that up since most of them are here for the work not the benefits. Here's an interesting article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12208037/

[BV]

Originally Posted by seven

Really? Did the natives of the U.S. send out an invitation to your granparents in some hunger-striken poor Itallian village requesting them to migrate to the U.S.? or did they approve their moving to their land after gracefully? If neither, your grandparents came here as illegally as any .45 cents mexican Jose

All of my great grandparents came here through Ellis Island at one time or another. My Great Grandfather "Rocco Porcaro" was 10 when he arrived. He survived by shining shoes in NYC.

Years later he ended up in Chicago with his own, ahemmm, furniture store.

[seven]

Originally Posted by iBanker

What they did not do is pile into the trunk of a car (or boat in their time...lol) and illegally enter the country. Rules are rules.

They would if they had to otherwise, there'd be no Illegals from Italy in this country today

Who were inviting immigrants into the country again? The natives or the opressionists? If the opressionists then they did it to oppress the natives some more. In the eyes of the natives, the true owners of this land, they were illegal immigrants including the ones that were inviting immigrants And contribute what? Some hardline statements with a heavy itallian accent? Majority Itallians that came to this country in those days were totally uneducated with no special skills, they only contributed physical labor to this country just as the mexs today except they'd done one thing that outdone citizens from any other country. They brought organized crime to this country to the extent that no other nationals did

[iBanker]

Originally Posted by seven

They would if they had to otherwise, there'd be no Illegals from Italy in this country today

Who were inviting immigrants into the country again? The natives or the opressionists? If the opressionists then they did it to oppress the natives some more. In the eyes of the natives, the true owners of this land, they were illegal immigrants including the ones that were inviting immigrants And contribute what? Some hardline statements with a heavy itallian accent? Majority Itallians that came to this country in those days were totally uneducated with no special skills, they only contributed physical labor to this country just as the mexs today except they'd done one thing that outdone citizens from any other country. They brought organized crime to this country to the extent that no other nationals did

You never knew that there was an open invitation to come to this country for people at one point? Ever hear of the "Land Rushes"? I'm not here to give a history lesson, but I'm sure if you did a little homework, you'd find that out.

I'll point out that one of my Grandparents was Native American as well. Not full blood, but still. So that card won't work on me either.

Nice Italian insult. Cute.

POINT OF FACT: My grandparents broke no laws by coming here, as the illegals being discussed above, did. You can argue the other side until you are blue in the face, you still have no foundation.

(note to seven: thanks for participating in the thread though Nice to be in a thread that isn't labeled "Would you hit it?")

[iBanker]

Originally Posted by BV

All of my great grandparents came here through Ellis Island at one time or another. My Great Grandfather "Rocco Porcaro" was 10 when he arrived. He survived by shining shoes in NYC.

Years later he ended up in Chicago with his own, ahemmm, furniture store.

Did you know you may be able to get copies of the paperwork upon entering if they came through Ellis Island? I got my grandpa's, cost about $115 if I remember correctly. Cool little thing to have to pass on to your kids someday.

Chris

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by iBanker

Dear President Bush,

I am about to plan a little trip with my family and extended family, and I would like to ask you to assist me. I?m going to walk across the border from the U.S. (where I am a citizen) into Mexico, and I need to make a few arrangements. I know you can help with this.

I plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws. I?m sure they handle those things the same way you do here.

So would you mind telling your buddy, Presidente Vicente Fox, that I am on my way over? Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:

1. Free medical care for me and my entire family.

2. English speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.

3. All government forms need to be printed in English.

4. I want my kids to be taught by English speaking teachers.

5. Schools need to include classes on American culture and history.

6. I want my kids to see the American flag flying on the top of the flag pole at their school with the Mexican flag flying lower down.

7. Please plan to feed my kids at school for both breakfast and lunch while they attend your schools at your cost.

8. Please make them eligible for government scholarships and student loans for college, should we stay illegally for a longer period of time. Make sure they do not try to collect and money from the loans, as we have no intention of repaying them.

9. I will need a Mexican driver?s license so I can get easy access to government services.

10. I do not plan to have any auto insurance, and I won?t make any effort to learn local traffic laws.

11. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from Presidente Fox to leave me alone, please be sure that all police officers speak English.

12. I plan to fly the US flag from my house top, put flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.

13. I would also like to have a nice job without paying taxes, and don?t enforce any labor laws or tax laws.

14. Please tell all the people in the country to be extremely nice and never say a critical word about me, or about the strain I might place on the economy.

I know this is an easy request, because you already do all these things for all the people who come to the USA from Mexico. I am sure that Presidente Fox won?t mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely.

Sincerely,

A US citizen




A friend of mine sent this to me, I didn?t write it, and I am not sure who did, but interesting nonetheless.

It's easy for an American to live and work illegally in Mexico. Whatever gave you the idea it isn't?

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by iBanker

Dear President Bush,

I am about to plan a little trip with my family and extended family, and I would like to ask you to assist me. I?m going to walk across the border from the U.S. (where I am a citizen) into Mexico, and I need to make a few arrangements. I know you can help with this.

I plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws. I?m sure they handle those things the same way you do here.

So would you mind telling your buddy, Presidente Vicente Fox, that I am on my way over? Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:

1. Free medical care for me and my entire family.

2. English speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.

3. All government forms need to be printed in English.

4. I want my kids to be taught by English speaking teachers.

5. Schools need to include classes on American culture and history.

6. I want my kids to see the American flag flying on the top of the flag pole at their school with the Mexican flag flying lower down.

7. Please plan to feed my kids at school for both breakfast and lunch while they attend your schools at your cost.

8. Please make them eligible for government scholarships and student loans for college, should we stay illegally for a longer period of time. Make sure they do not try to collect and money from the loans, as we have no intention of repaying them.

9. I will need a Mexican driver?s license so I can get easy access to government services.

10. I do not plan to have any auto insurance, and I won?t make any effort to learn local traffic laws.

11. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from Presidente Fox to leave me alone, please be sure that all police officers speak English.

12. I plan to fly the US flag from my house top, put flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.

13. I would also like to have a nice job without paying taxes, and don?t enforce any labor laws or tax laws.

14. Please tell all the people in the country to be extremely nice and never say a critical word about me, or about the strain I might place on the economy.

I know this is an easy request, because you already do all these things for all the people who come to the USA from Mexico. I am sure that Presidente Fox won?t mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely.

Sincerely,

A US citizen




A friend of mine sent this to me, I didn?t write it, and I am not sure who did, but interesting nonetheless.

Translation: I'm a blubbering buffoon.

[seven]

Originally Posted by iBanker

You never knew that there was an open invitation to come to this country for people at one point? Ever hear of the "Land Rushes"? I'm not here to give a history lesson, but I'm sure if you did a little homework, you'd find that out.

I'll point out that one of my Grandparents was Native American as well. Not full blood, but still. So that card won't work on me either.

Nice Italian insult. Cute.

POINT OF FACT: My grandparents broke no laws by coming here, as the illegals being discussed above, did. You can argue the other side until you are blue in the face, you still have no foundation.

(note to seven: thanks for participating in the thread though Nice to be in a thread that isn't labeled "Would you hit it?")

As a half Itallian myself I think I know a bit of that history too including that Itallains were not very well tolerated by the other white folks of this country a lot like the mexs today except no-one could ask to deport them since they were only illegals to the natives and not to whites who had any (if any) law enforcement power lol.

[ronbotx]

Originally Posted by iBanker

So, just to clarify then, Mexico is just a piece of shit? I can't have my kids go there for a free education, can I?

Actually, being an illegal alien in Mexico is a felony. Plan on spending two years in a lovely Mexican prison if caught. Then you'll be deported back to the U.S.

Funny how none of the geniuses here point out the double standard?

[seven]

Originally Posted by ronbotx

Actually, being an illegal alien in Mexico is a felony. Plan on spending two years in a lovely Mexican prison if caught. Then you'll be deported back to the U.S.

Funny how none of the geniuses here point out the double standard?

well, i didn't really know anyone who it actually happened to before now. are the mex prisons really lovely? did u pick up some tanned chicks (or maybe chickas) while there?

[Meloman]

I was talking with my buddy about the immigration issue yesterday. He works at a major hospital here in San Francsico as an anastesia tech. He specifically said that the hospital does see lots of illegals come up from Mexico to get major operations (for free) and then they move back. It's a specific problem the hospital has encountered.

I'm torn on the whole immigration issue. Both my parents came from Italy (legally) so I can see both sides of the coin.

[iBanker]

Originally Posted by ronbotx

Actually, being an illegal alien in Mexico is a felony. Plan on spending two years in a lovely Mexican prison if caught. Then you'll be deported back to the U.S.

Funny how none of the geniuses here point out the double standard?

Valid point. Thanks for the imput.

[seven]

Originally Posted by JDog

I also do have some friends that were illegals, but they became citizens, they made their own businesses.

by the current immigration law NO illegal may become legal without leavung u.s. first and if they do leave they are barred from coming back in atleast 10 years as penalty of being here illegally, and almost in every case, they are never allowed back. so your friends who were illegals before still are unless they married u.s. citizens. if not, maybe they're pulling your legs

[iBanker]

Originally Posted by seven

by the current immigration law NO illegal may become legal without leavung u.s. first and if they do leave they are barred from coming back in atleast 10 years as penalty of being here illegally, and almost in every case, they are never allowed back. so your friends who were illegals before still are unless they married u.s. citizens. if not, maybe they're pulling your legs

That is IF they get caught going back. I know some here in San Diego, and getting back IN to Mexico as a Mexican, is not a problem...

[Spunky]

I'm sure he would want that

[BusterBunny]

i'd hit it

[seven]

Originally Posted by iBanker

Valid point.

actually pointless. there are no jobs in mex so no-one moves there illegally no-one worries.. besides as far as i know that mex imm law doesn't apply to u.s. cits.

[seven]

Originally Posted by iBanker

That is IF they get caught going back. I know some here in San Diego, and getting back IN to Mexico as a Mexican, is not a problem...

u still talking about mexs? ILLEGALS by default doesn't mean mexicans only u know that right?

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by seven

u still talking about mexs? ILLEGALS by default doesn't mean mexicans only u know that right?

Yeah only 95%.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by seven

actually pointless. there are no jobs in mex so no-one moves there illegally.

Funny how come all these plants are closing and moving to Mexico?

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by The Demon

Translation: I'm a blubbering buffoon.

translation people like me who the democratic party caters to is why they can never win elections.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Meloman

I was talking with my buddy about the immigration issue yesterday. He works at a major hospital here in San Francsico as an anastesia tech. He specifically said that the hospital does see lots of illegals come up from Mexico to get major operations (for free) and then they move back. It's a specific problem the hospital has encountered.

I'm torn on the whole immigration issue. Both my parents came from Italy (legally) so I can see both sides of the coin.

Why for free??

They dont have to accept them or provide healthcare? Why do they?`

[Meloman]

I didn't get too deep in the convo with him.... but basically there's a law that says a hospital can't deny someone medical care do to no issurance. The government basically pics up the tab. I'm not sure how it works exactly though.

What I do know is that my buddy is super smart and his brother in law is the head anistesiologist at that same hospital. So he does know what he's talking about.

So I have to say I don't feel it's right for illegals to come across the border just to take advantage of our hospital system. If they plan on staying here, contributing to our economy and eventually becoming citizens that's one thing. But coming here just to take advantage of our better hospitals and then going right back over the border I think is unfair to us.

[iBanker]

Originally Posted by seven

u still talking about mexs? ILLEGALS by default doesn't mean mexicans only u know that right?

It happens to be the basis of this topic. Pay attention.

Chris

[boneprone]

Yo mang.

You planning on moving to Portland still??

I have a guy on my softball roster named "ibanker" on it.

Team BP4L.

Do your stretches..

Let me know when and if you arrive to the promised land.

BP4L Land.

We could use ya on the team!

[seven]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Funny how come all these plants are closing and moving to Mexico?

ah! so you want to work one of those fraction of minimum wage paying job in mexico? good ambition dude! go for it

[seven]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Yeah only 95%.

Nawh! Get your facts straight buddy. It's about 50% and that is cause of the geographical location. China already has few million of their illegals here. If China was situated next to the u.s. that number would've hit nearly a billion by now lol. India has bout a million of theirs in u.s. if India was next to the u.s. all of India would've taken a shot at entering u.s. illegally. Few million illegals are from Europe as well mostly eastern euros thou cause that's where the euro economy is hurting. But only mex could weign in more cause and again of the geographical location.. maybe move mexico to another location or move u.s. and the prob gets 2b much less

[seven]

Originally Posted by iBanker

It happens to be the basis of this topic. Pay attention.

Chris

regardless of what basis of this topic is. ILLEGAL by default DOES NOT mean mexs only it includes illegals from Italy too so stop being racist

[iBanker]

Originally Posted by boneprone

Yo mang.

You planning on moving to Portland still??

I have a guy on my softball roster named "ibanker" on it.

Team BP4L.

Do your stretches..

Let me know when and if you arrive to the promised land.

BP4L Land.

We could use ya on the team!

I'll be there in 2 weeks... Escrow closes here on the 29th

Can't wait either. My girl is excited beyond belief. As far as softball goes I played last week and was 13 for 14 in 3 games. I'm all over it.

Chris

[iBanker]

Originally Posted by seven

ah! so you want to work one of those fraction of minimum wage paying job in mexico? good ambition dude! go for it

Thats how you know you are losing an argument or discussion, you insult another party or try to tear them down instead of defending your stance.

Tisk Tisk.

p.s. Congrats on the 2,000 posts

Chris

[HollywoodChris]

I feel you bro.

[tony286]

my great grandfather jumped ship in NYC to start a new life here.He was illegal and italians were hated here. The Irish complained they took jobs for lower wages. This problem isnt the mexicans its the the american companies that hire them, people seem to lose sight of that. Also what taxes are they going to pay when picking peaches at 60 cents a bushel with five kids. lol This is a big smoke screen.

[seven]

Originally Posted by iBanker

Thats how you know you are losing an argument or discussion, you insult another party or try to tear them down instead of defending your stance.

Tisk Tisk.

p.s. Congrats on the 2,000 posts

try to tear them down? wow! didn't realize was doing wear/tear shit.. just thought i was being sacastic lol hit a nerve there didn't i?

2k yay! Only took me 4 years to get to 2k but I'd done it! HOORAY! haha

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Funny how come all these plants are closing and moving to Mexico?

To exploit Mexicans.

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by ronbotx

Actually, being an illegal alien in Mexico is a felony. Plan on spending two years in a lovely Mexican prison if caught. Then you'll be deported back to the U.S.

Funny how none of the geniuses here point out the double standard?

Two years in a Mexican prison for an immigration violation?
Show me where this has ever happened to any U.S. citizen.

[iBanker]

Originally Posted by seven

regardless of what basis of this topic is. ILLEGAL by default DOES NOT mean mexs only it includes illegals from Italy too so stop being racist

I never once disagreed with that.

[iBanker]

Originally Posted by seven

try to tear them down? wow! didn't realize was doing wear/tear shit.. just thought i was being sacastic lol hit a nerve there didn't i?

2k yay! Only took me 4 years to get to 2k but I'd done it! HOORAY! haha

Nah, didn't hit a nerve. It takes a lot more than 12 million mexicans to piss me off.

Chris

[iBanker]

Originally Posted by escorpio

Two years in a Mexican prison for an immigration violation?
Show me where this has ever happened to any U.S. citizen.

You are right. Normally its because they don't have money to pay off the corrupt cops.

Chris

[seven]

Originally Posted by tony404

my great grandfather jumped ship in NYC to start a new life here.He was illegal and italians were hated here. The Irish complained they took jobs for lower wages. This problem isnt the mexicans its the the american companies that hire them, people seem to lose sight of that. Also what taxes are they going to pay when picking peaches at 60 cents a bushel with five kids. lol This is a big smoke screen.

none of my ancestors was "illegally" here in the literal meaning of it but i agree french, scottish, irish, english, chinese or mexican it's one or the other someone will always cry foul cos that's what most are good at. it's not what i got it's what i don't. it's not that i don't try to find a job.. it's mexicans who took the jobs that I didn't look for.. now, if it wasn't mexicans then it'd be the little chinese people that did and so on.

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by iBanker

You are right. Normally its because they don't have money to pay off the corrupt cops.

Chris

No, it's because Mexico would rather deport you than take care of you for two years behind a stupid immigration charge.

[seven]

Originally Posted by iBanker

Nah, didn't hit a nerve. It takes a lot more than 12 million mexicans to piss me off.

Chris

how about 12 million illegal Itallians? Would they piss you off too? Hell no! Those would be your fav illegals