You know what you fucking hippies go ahead and give to the FSC and tell them MikeHawk sent ya http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/ this is not worth my time to be fighting with a bunch of former woodstock junkies who think that regulation means censorship. Im done arguing with you people, lets just wait and see where all your money ends up heh, enjoy the ass raping with no lube, Ill take the lube thanks.

Hahhahaahaha "Statements" by whom? Tards?

Most dont know a thing of .XXX or what its all really about, i suggest to the people who dont know what they are talking about GO READ and learn. I think once you have read understood what this, you will change your tune. This info is not by board posting GFY people but by lawyers and folks who have done there homework and fact finding.

Lesson 1

FSC Anti-.XXX Letter-Writing Campaign
Source: Free speech Coalition
by: Company Press Release
[Here's an interesting bit: The Free speech Coalition and the Bush Administration agree on this, albeit for different reasons. Adult Industry News remains neutral on this important matter and as a reporting agency will publish opposing viewpoints. We urge everyone to learn, decide and be active in this matter. -Ed.]

(CANOGA PARK, CA) -- The Free Speech Coalition is commencing a letter-writing campaign in opposition to the creation of a .XXX top-level domain. A pre-written letter is available on the Free Speech Coalition Website, at FreeSpeechCoalition.com/xinfo.htm, where one can go to simply fill in a few fields of information and send the letter off, make changes to the letter, or write a completely new one. Letters will be emailed to the Free Speech Coalition, where they will be gathered and presented to ICANN later this month. For maximum impact, we are collecting the letters themselves.

The Free Speech Coalition has already contacted ICANN officials on several occasions over the past weeks and months, to express our opposition to the creation of .XXX itself, and to restate our concerns regarding the legitimacy of the application submitted to ICANN by ICM Registry to create and run .XXX. We will continue to press our case up to and after the upcoming September 15 ICANN meeting, when the issue of the approval of .XXX is scheduled to be revisited.

We ask any and all members of the adult entertainment community who believe, as we do, that .XXX is a bad idea that will not work, to visit our site and take 60 seconds to register your opposition. We understand that other people and petitions are out there, sending letters and gathering names, and we certainly applaud those efforts. In fact, if anyone has already signed up at FightTheDotXXX.com, there is no need to duplicate the effort here. But if you have yet to register your opinion, it certainly is not too late to do so. It is important to let ICANN know that responsible adult webmasters already exist, and that we resent the implication that adult websites that do not purchase and abide by mandatory .XXX policies are by definition irresponsible.

Fight dot XXX!

Free Speech Coalition is the trade organization of the adult entertainment industry. Its mission is to safeguard the industry from oppressive governmental regulation and to promote good business practices within the industry.

Contact:
Tom Hymes
310-384-6298
Free Speech Coalition
P.O. Box 10480,
Canoga Park, CA 91309
ph: 818-348-9373
FreeSpeechCoalition.com
[email protected]


http://freespeechcoalition.com/

http://www.sci-tech-today.com/news/I...d=10100B9YJI81

http://freespeechcoalition.com/dotXXX/Form.html

Splum, who are you anyway? You a tough guy? Or a "gangsta"..lol....

I attend every show for our biz, next time introduce yourself to me and i would happy to meet ya and see "who you are"...hahahaha....

Anyway, this thread was about "information" .....and letting those know about this nasty .XXX.

Oh and by the way i must have hit a nerve about "Jason" ...the FSC is a group that works for not alot of money to protect our industry just so you know.

I am going to enjoy the beach and the rest of my weekend, my work is done here.............keep fighting for your cause Splum.....its your right.....right?

If anything results from this greed driven bill written by them devils everyone loves to hate. I hope someone takes it to heart and puts the children of those responsible in the line of fire with a high powered sniper rifle. My 2 cents.

the US has turned around the time, its going towards the 50's now.

Actually it was created for the US military( which is run by adults, I think ). And it was also used to connect universities( also a non-kid area ) So no the internet was not in fact created for kids it was created by adult for adults. Nuff said.

I believe in free speech and I believe that a cornerstone of free speech is people explaining to one another what they believe and why. I was just saying that I think it does make sense to continue to discuss the topic here.

You are not a tard and you are posting statements outlining your views and the views of others. Presumably some people will be swayed by your statements or why make them?

I am deeply opposed to the .xxx TLD, more from a patriotic freedom perspective honestly, than a business one, but from a business stance as well. Did you miss the part where I responded to Splum, saying:

This site of course would also have to move to .XXX . In fact I suppose any website that has a "bad" word in the name would have to be placed on .XXX regardless if it has nay adult content on it or not.

I believe that the requirement is any site that is considered to be "harmful to minors" - just who decides what's harmful to minors in a country that is infested with religious zealots and bigots does not leave me feeling very confident about the future of sites that deal with STD's and breast cancer and other health issues.

I'm not sure what to say. I'm not debating .xxx anymore. The documents on the site, and others posted on the ICANN and GAC sites, state quite clearly and literally what this industry is up against.

There's nothing I can add except to say that I have always actually had an open mind about dot xxx, but after going to New Zealand my suspicions were confirmed and I am more convinced than ever that no one will be able to keep their hands off this domain.

If anyone has anything they want to ask me, I'm easy to find. If anyone who has not done so already wants to take a stand against this, please send a letter or email. Make it short. No need to pontificate. Just state your position.

Thanks,
Tom

[email protected]

Oh. One other thing. Anyone who knows anything about the history of dot xxx knows exactly from which direction the promises and payoffs have come from.

yea, its a truly fucked up situation.

You really are DUMB and IGNORANT ... and obviously could not comprehend an explanation ... no time to loose with idiots. :2 cents:

You should be BANNED for making twice these allegations...

BTW, who did you say was reverting to " name calling " :1orglaugh

I presume you are against abortion .. and I can see why.

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Originally Posted by Hymes Oh. One other thing. Anyone who knows anything about the history of dot xxx knows exactly from which direction the promises and payoffs have come.

Yup - :pimp

2hp

Thanks for raising this again Mike.

The whole .xxx exercise is to have a domain name goldrush. Look what happened with .eu and .xxx will be 100 times more ott. The registry behind the push sees the $$.

I mean think about it there is more on the net that kids shouldnt see than just porn. THIS is why a .kids domain makes so much sense. Rather than trying to exclude sites from kids, why not make a domain space where all the content is safe for kids!

.kids is SO much better of a solution - but hey - there wont be as much money for the registry trying to sell them will there?

It's all bollocks - support FSC on this ppl.

:2 cents:

in a few words: Do not support the .XXX!
It will take seconds for isps to block .XXX domains!
Don't do it!

Survival of the fittest!!!

cambaby i believe ...

What it will do, is allow the gov to specifically monitor surfers and webmasters very closely, Not that they don't do that already. How much easier is it to shoot a group of ducks if they are all located in one place? The surfer knows this and that will make the fear of prosecutions grow and drastically reduce traffic.

100........

Even in the "real world" we make playgrounds for the kids. Do the supporters of the .xxx tld want to remove every car from the highway, so their kids can play there? And I´m tired of hearing the "think about the children" argument from the .xxx supporters - *Í am thinking about the children*, I´m thinking about their RIGHTS and their FREEDOM when they become adults.

The good news is that in the EU there are strong forces working on the .kids tld. A safe place for kids.

Won't happen, no worries. Silly people, Internet is for the entire World and not just for Americans.

I think so also .... which means it is also Simple Simon ....

I think Chad is right, something has fried in your brain. How would grouping all porn to .xxx accomplish that? Put a card reader on everyone's monitor that they would have to swioe, and provide a DNA sample before access is given?

.xxx isn't going to keep anyone out unless the ISP just blocks everyone by default.

Please name 1 thing that government regulation has improved.

that seems pretty obvious

As we speak, there is a proposal from the opposition in the Australian government (Australia, not Austria!) to make ISP-level filtering mandatory. If it passes, the default setting would keep all adult content out. If a subscriber wants to receive it, s/he will have to call their ISP to have it allowed through.

I mentioned this to several ICANN staffers. No matter the internal ICANN politics, they understood the significance of making people announce their intention to receive adult products, and could only shake their heads at the thought.

Tom

Yep and how mnay people are going to call ther ISP and say "Yes this is ( insert your name, address, phone # ) I would like access to porn. And then don't think that ISPs won't CHARGE for this service. Good luck getting people to buy porn memberships when they have to pay just to get access to porn from their web browswer.

We're asking for letters to fight dot xxx, not money.

How many letters has been already sent and how many would you like to see?

Personally, I have already sent emails to ICANN ( also ICANN board members ) and even Department of Commerce just before Wellington.

But I am just a small single webmaster and I guess if the big companies opposed that, only then it would matter.

It's not proposed it's actually a law. And even though a judge threw out the secondary producer part doesn't mean it's permanent. Until the Supreme Court says you can't have a secondary producer clause in 2257 it still may apply to us.

You have probably done enough. It would be nice if the largest brands in this industry that have not yet done so would take a simple position for the businesses in this industry and the consumers of their products. It would help.

If you read the GAC communique, you will see this sentence, "The GAC would request a written explanation of the Board decision, particularly with regard to the sponsored community and public interest criteria outlined in the sponsored top level domain selection criteria."

Translation:

GAC = Government Advisory Committee. It is the ICANN constituent committtee for world governments. 109 governments are represented on GAC. When they issue a communique, it is the consensus voice of all those countries.

Sponsored community = adult entertainment industry. They are saying that even though the ICANN Board has said that ICM has shown to their satisfation that they have the support of the industry, GAC is not convinced.

This Is Important: FSC sent a letter of opposition to Dr. Cerf last year. He promised to have it posted to the ICANN website. It was never posted. In New Zealand, I found out why. Because ICANN staff did not want GAC country members to know that there was any industry opposition to dot xxx!

Send a letter to GAC members if you want. Pick your countries. They are all listed on the GAC site: http://gac.icann.org/web/contact/reps/index.shtml

As it is, we have strategies in play. We are not waiting for letters that may never come. Dot xxx may not go through anyway. We are doing our best.

Tom

:thumbsup

jonesy......hey buddy.....

Excellent suggestion! :thumbsup

Also if you are in the EU, then you can contact the different MEPs from your country:

http://www.europarl.eu.int/members.do?language=EN

While the European parliament have proposed the .kid tld., then its uncertain if it will work or even get created by ICANN - the kids.us domain flopped so its uphill for .kid http://www.out-law.com/page-6107 but still most EU MEPs would rather see a .kid tld, than a .xxx tld. There are several EU MEPs that are watching the .xxx tld. debate, but are misinformed about the adult industry´s view on the .xxx and .kid.

So, he had the opportunity to kill it?

:helpme

Yeah, I was wondering about that myself.

Let's put a little of the time and effort we use in reading threads to instead send the letters---it's simple, we either speak up to the powers-to-be or it'll be assumed that we don't care what they decide to do TO us; basically, we either oppose .xxx, or we end up being raped/bankrupted by it's approval and implementation:-(.

PLEASE start writing letters NOW!!!!

Dave

Would it not be worthwhile for every site member to be asked to also write letters in opposition to .xxx????

Also, without spamming how about email lists being asked to do likewise?

In fact, let's also urge every member to register to vote, to become informed about the records of incumbents and the positions of challengers, and to actually vote in every eligible upcoming election.

Instead of merely complaining and/or reacting after-the-fact, we ALL need to start becoming actively involved NOW.

Please write those letters, involve your site members to write letters, and urge everyone to become informed voters.

Together, we have power, but we need to indeed wield it --- otherwise, our incomes and the American Constitution gets raped:-((.

Dave