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chadglni 04-08-2006 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by KRL
I wouldn't be so sure on that chad. The majority of porn transactions are from the USA last stats I saw.

Anyways, an .xxx implementation will cause massive litigation which would inevitably defeat it.
WTF are you guys missing? They force all of you to .xxx you think I'm going to volunteer to put my shit there? :1orglaugh I will keep my .com and laugh all the way to the bank even if I have to promote NON USA SPONSORS or run my own sites.

Splum 04-08-2006 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by GigoloMason
Another big problem is it will just force people over seas rather than actually changing anything.
Yes this would be a major drawback if they didnt get support of other english speaking countries I agree, kinda like how the casinos are now.

elitetec 04-08-2006 02:16 PM
Are you sure that is the only reason?

Splum 04-08-2006 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by chadglni
WTF are you guys missing? They force all of you to .xxx you think I'm going to volunteer to put my shit there? :1orglaugh I will keep my .com and laugh all the way to the bank even if I have to promote NON USA SPONSORS or run my own sites.
Do you really think American ISPs will allow a consumer to access porn .coms etc after .xxx is implimented and required by the US government? So you promote non usa sponsors and only have non usa traffic, yeah sounds like youll be laughing all the way to the bank.

chadglni 04-08-2006 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Splum
Do you really think American ISPs will allow a consumer to access porn .coms etc after .xxx is implimented and required by the US government? So you promote non usa sponsors and only have non usa traffic, yeah sounds like youll be laughing all the way to the bank.
Dude is something fried in your head? The reason they want porn on .xxx is so it's easier to block. There have been people trying to successfully blog .coms forever and it just doesn't happen. No the US government will not block everyone on the damn internet from accessing international sites, sorry.

Drake 04-08-2006 02:34 PM
Doesn't it just piss you off that Democrats are the ones pushing this crap.

Doctor Dre 04-08-2006 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Splum
Please explain to us dumb and ignorant people how .xxx is going to hurt the industry as a WHOLE? Sure it may hurt many of us who have made brands and invested lots of money in our current .coms but dont you think if .xxx is implimented it would be regulated and legitimize our industry a bit? This is our problem, we are not looked at as a legitimate industry.
Because it will put us in a ghetto, where the ISP will filter .xxx domains... that's one of the dozen reasons

Splum 04-08-2006 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by chadglni
Dude is something fried in your head? The reason they want porn on .xxx is so it's easier to block. There have been people trying to successfully blog .coms forever and it just doesn't happen. No the US government will not block everyone on the damn internet from accessing international sites, sorry.
No that is incorrect, they would block KIDS and non-verified adults from accessing .xxx - now this makes me wonder what kind of business you run when you have a problem with that.

Splum 04-08-2006 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
Because it will put us in a ghetto, where the ISP will filter .xxx domains... that's one of the dozen reasons
Are you saying those ISPs wont allow you to access .xxx after you are a verified adult ehh? Or are you marketing to kids too Dre?

Doctor Dre 04-08-2006 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Splum
What a childish response you didnt even counter any of my points, heh what do I expect from GFY these days.

Porn is a product that is in high demand you honestly think that consumers wont do anything they can to access it? As I see it most of you are having knee jerk reactions to any type of change from any governing entity. Granted with the constant assaults on this industry I dont blame you, you keep sending money off to a losing battle, I for one will embrace any changes that come down.
Between me and you, was porn as big as it is now before the internet ? as widespread ? no fucking way. The easy access is the reason why it's so big right now

woj 04-08-2006 02:40 PM
Fifty........

chadglni 04-08-2006 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Splum
No that is incorrect, they would block KIDS and non-verified adults from accessing .xxx - now this makes me wonder what kind of business you run when you have a problem with that.
Look, you are too stupid to continue this further. But for the record I don't even have a bare titty on my websites so if a kid stumbles onto it by accident they won't be traumatized for life.

Splum 04-08-2006 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by chadglni
Look, you are too stupid to continue this further. But for the record I don't even have a bare titty on my websites so if a kid stumbles onto it by accident they won't be traumatized for life.
You are too stupid to hold a normal conversation without resorting to name calling. Face it you like American money, and you want it no matter if its a thirteen year old kid using moms credit card.

chadglni 04-08-2006 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Splum
You are too stupid to hold a normal conversation without resorting to name calling. Face it you like American money, and you want it no matter if its a thirteen year old kid using moms credit card.
See, utterly god damned retarded. How anyone could put up with you for more than 5 minutes in person is beyond me.

kristin 04-08-2006 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by GatorB
Not really. Let's see major hotels show porn so they make moeny off porn. I have Charter cable. They show porn they are making money off porn. And they are not the only cable company to do so. Google makes tons of money of porn just from webmasters that use Adwords. I could go on and on with example of major US corporations that make money from porn.
Exactly ... Marriott makes tons of money off porn and the owner is Mormon!

We are blackballed when other large corporations are allowed to make money off the same thing we do. We just have to find a way to control it better, and while they think this is a good solution, it definitely has its pros and cons.

Personally, I would have been for .xxx had they started it from the beginning. But I do see why it's almost impossible to integrate with the .nets and .orgs.

This will definitely be a battle ... and the outcome will be interesting.

tony286 04-08-2006 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Splum
No that is incorrect, they would block KIDS and non-verified adults from accessing .xxx - now this makes me wonder what kind of business you run when you have a problem with that.
Why is there always some of these .xxx is good people everytime a thread like this comes up. A few things:

1 Say good bye to all your college surfers and daytime work surfers, those make up alot of sales. They will be no more.
2 People act like America is the world and its not, so offshore they are still using .com while we are here in filter hell.
3 Every right wing religious group will be writing every isp if you let .xxx you are supporting porn. So most will be shut out because unfortunately there are alot of porn viewers but they are not a vocal group because they dont want to be associated with porn.
4. if protecting kids was important they would do a cheap .kids domain for 5 bucks each with a .kids only browser .
5. everything doesnt have to be child safe thats the parents job and actually porn isnt a physical danger to kids , yahoo chat rooms and myspace sites are and they will not be regulated.

chadglni 04-08-2006 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by tony404
Why is there always some of these .xxx is good people everytime a thread like this comes up. A few things:

1 Say good bye to all your college surfers and daytime work surfers, those make up alot of sales. They will be no more.
2 People act like America is the world and its not, so offshore they are still using .com while we are here in filter hell.
3 Every right wing religious group will be writing every isp if you let .xxx you are supporting porn. So most will be shut out because unfortunately there are alot of porn viewers but they are not a vocal group because they dont want to be associated with porn.
4. if protecting kids was important they would do a cheap .kids domain for 5 bucks each with a .kids only browser .
5. everything doesnt have to be child safe thats the parents job and actually porn isnt a physical danger to kids , yahoo chat rooms and myspace sites are and they will not be regulated.
It's useless dude, he's dense. I've argued with you on multiple subjects but almost always a matter of personal preference. Something like .xxx is so obvious in one direction it's laughable to hear these fools. I bet he has 500 new.net .xxx domains and thinks he'll get rich when it happens. :1orglaugh

Splum 04-08-2006 02:55 PM
tony404 I agree .kids would be better and the ultimate responsability rests with the parents and trust me I am not THRILLED about .xxx itself but I am thrilled that for the first time the government is actually considering something that acts as regulation, and we need it, we have needed it so bad for so long.

tony286 04-08-2006 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by chadglni
It's useless dude, he's dense. I've argued with you on multiple subjects but almost always a matter of personal preference. Something like .xxx is so obvious in one direction it's laughable to hear these fools. I bet he has 500 new.net .xxx domains and thinks he'll get rich when it happens. :1orglaugh
I have to agree with you :thumbsup

Splum 04-08-2006 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by chadglni
It's useless dude, he's dense. I've argued with you on multiple subjects but almost always a matter of personal preference. Something like .xxx is so obvious in one direction it's laughable to hear these fools. I bet he has 500 new.net .xxx domains and thinks he'll get rich when it happens. :1orglaugh
Chadglni stfu you loser you are not even eloquent enough to state anything remotely as intelligent as what tony404 just said. Also I have ZERO .xxx domains. Why dont you go back to peddling your porn to youngsters you sicko.

Doctor Dre 04-08-2006 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Splum
Are you saying those ISPs wont allow you to access .xxx after you are a verified adult ehh? Or are you marketing to kids too Dre?
Was the internet created for children ? Creating a .KID extension would be a lot better then creating a .XXX extension.

There are other stuff then porn that childrens shouldn't be accessing on the internet.

You're pretty much a waste of time so I'ma stop arguing with your stupid ass. If you can't see what the GOV is trying to pull, well that's just cauz you're blind.

tony286 04-08-2006 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
Was the internet created for children ? Creating a .KID extension would be a lot better then creating a .XXX extension.

There are other stuff then porn that childrens shouldn't be accessing on the internet.

You're pretty much a waste of time so I'ma stop arguing with your stupid ass. If you can't see what the GOV is trying to pull, well that's just cauz you're blind.
its so true that kid that testified in front of the government, him jerking off for old men had nothing to do with adult porn sites. It was yahoo im and a webcam and paypal.

Splum 04-08-2006 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
Was the internet created for children ? Creating a .KID extension would be a lot better then creating a .XXX extension.
And if you stop wacking off for a minute you will see my stance is that .kids would be better, I dont wholly support .xxx and the only thing I definitively support is the fucking regulation to legitimize this industry. You really think the American government is going to stop coming after you(and all of us) unless they are getting a piece of the pie? The easy access to porn is what is fucking us, basically we are fucking ourselves you shortminded fucks. :Oh crap

MikeHawk 04-08-2006 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by The Other Steve
Sadly Mike I think you're wasting your breath here.

This is GFY where people either don't care because they're in it for the quick buck or too dumb to think further than the end of their cock.

Just think - if Paul Revere had been trying to warn a bunch of GFYers that the British were coming you guys would still be part of the Empire. :helpme
So true and very sad......

MikeHawk 04-08-2006 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Splum
1. Lots of people over the years have rented adult movies, bought adult magazines and purchased adult toys online and offline. The process is discrete yet transparent and without the stigma of shame because there is a PLACE and PROCESS for those purchases.
2. If the online adult industry was regulated we could eliminate those in this industry that do things the less than legal and obtrusive way thus opening the door to have the government actually listen to any lobbyists we may send.
3. Sales ratios would go UP and chargebacks would go down because you eliminate a wide swath of consumers that are not supposed to be consumers.
4. Call me names whatever if thats your intelligent argument I cant wait for .xxx to drive some of you older sites out of business to make way for a new generation of regulated porn pushers.

And to those naysayers who think the US government would never legitimize porn, thats bullshit because money talks and as long as we are regulated(and that is the key thing here) and only verified adults are our consumers they can take a hands off approach all the while reaping the benefits of the money from this industry. Hell most rich people in this country have a vested monetary stake in the porn industry already, through umbrella companies.
Umm

Do you own your own program or biz in this industry, or have you fully looked into what is really going to happen here?

Its about"control" one more step from taking away the rights again.

MikeHawk 04-08-2006 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Splum
What a childish response you didnt even counter any of my points, heh what do I expect from GFY these days.

Porn is a product that is in high demand you honestly think that consumers wont do anything they can to access it? As I see it most of you are having knee jerk reactions to any type of change from any governing entity. Granted with the constant assaults on this industry I dont blame you, you keep sending money off to a losing battle, I for one will embrace any changes that come down.
Omg...you work for .XXX ....hahahaaha.....you must...Say hi to Jason....

:1orglaugh

The Other Steve 04-08-2006 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Splum
Chadglni stfu you loser you are not even eloquent enough to state anything remotely as intelligent as what tony404 just said. Also I have ZERO .xxx domains. Why dont you go back to peddling your porn to youngsters you sicko.
Could it be that you're a plant just like the last guy I saw defending .xxx domains?

If not then you really are either obstinate or naive because you certainly aren't intelligent - but then that's obvious from your oh so eloquent reply.

MikeHawk 04-08-2006 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by The Other Steve
Could it be that you're a plant just like the last guy I saw defending .xxx domains?

If not then you really are either obstinate or naive because you certainly aren't intelligent - but then that's obvious from your oh so eloquent reply.
Steve...we are thinking in "stereo" lol..................
Exactly what and who he is...............



"This bill will section off a piece of the Internet neighborhood and confine adult sites to one location," the Montana senator said.

AmeliaG 04-08-2006 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Splum
Please explain to us dumb and ignorant people how .xxx is going to hurt the industry as a WHOLE? Sure it may hurt many of us who have made brands and invested lots of money in our current .coms but dont you think if .xxx is implimented it would be regulated and legitimize our industry a bit? This is our problem, we are not looked at as a legitimate industry.
In addition to the filtering issue already mentioned:

If all your sponsors are wasting their resources on trademark litigation, your affiliate payouts will have to be lower.

If all your sponsors have to spend their dough on rebranding new domains, your affiliate payouts will have to be lower.

Most importantly, who gets to decide what goes on a .XXX domain? Access to information about birth control and breast cancer and homosexuality and outsider art and all differing political views could all be fairly effortlessly sent to Siberia, if this goes through.

Web sites fundamentally are something which should enable the more free exchange of ideas and information. The totalitarian potential of a system which allows web sites to be easily ghettoized and subjected to bizarre and unusual regulation . . . well, it is appalling and staggering.

Lastly, if you want to know how this could impact you directly: Although this won't impact me negatively at all, if they impose stricter copyright and record-keeping rules as proposed on .XXX domains, then folks with your business model will be fined and statutory-damaged to kingdom come.

chadglni 04-08-2006 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Splum
Chadglni stfu you loser you are not even eloquent enough to state anything remotely as intelligent as what tony404 just said. Also I have ZERO .xxx domains. Why dont you go back to peddling your porn to youngsters you sicko.
Eat a dick pedo.

Young 04-08-2006 04:42 PM
Is this Splum guy series? He must have an agenda....

and if he doesn't have an agenda he is a fucking moron.

Rolo 04-08-2006 05:02 PM
Splum, You keep posting about how regulation will make you more money. Unless you are controlling the entire supply chain (ex. VISA/MC, Major SEs, Hosting, ISPs, Producers etc.) on the internet + decision making politicians, then you have no clue to how this will end up. You are wishful thinking, you have no facts to base your expectations on!

Harley Girl 04-08-2006 05:03 PM
it's simple... either you are "for" the .xxx or you are "against" ... bickering back and forth with each other isn't going to help or hinder what is going on right now.

If you would like to help, whether you are a small program, independant site owner or large program - it all helps.

Send a letter with your opposition to the FSC - The Free Speech Coalition has made it as simple as possible.
Click the link below and fill in a few fields, name, email address and company name and you send it....

don't procrastinate this any longer... help out! :thumbsup

SEND YOU OPPOSITION LETTER HERE!

AmeliaG 04-08-2006 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Harley Girl
it's simple... either you are "for" the .xxx or you are "against" ... bickering back and forth with each other isn't going to help or hinder what is going on right now.

If you would like to help, whether you are a small program, independant site owner or large program - it all helps.

Send a letter with your opposition to the FSC - The Free Speech Coalition has made it as simple as possible.
Click the link below and fill in a few fields, name, email address and company name and you send it....

don't procrastinate this any longer... help out! :thumbsup

SEND YOU OPPOSITION LETTER HERE!
Presumably some people are undecided on their opinion or flexible in what they think and will be swayed by statements which help them understand the pros and cons of it.

AmeliaG 04-08-2006 05:11 PM
Also, the ACLU has some good resources for writing your senators etc.

L-Pink 04-08-2006 05:17 PM
It all sounds so simple ... just use xxx! ...

* The government will leave us alone. NO, once we are all in one easy to oversee category they will add regulation upon regulation until there is a code that matches the IRS's in volume.

* Any Porn is always a good target when running for re-election ...

* Eventually they will "tax" xxx ... Wanna Bet?

Hammer 04-08-2006 05:21 PM
When I read this stuff it just reminds me of all the webmasters that went berserk and shut down their sites and dumped tons of content because of some ridiculous and unconstitutional law that had been proposed. What was it again? Oh yeah, 2257 and making webmasters secondary producers.

I'm not for .xxx, but this just looks like another scare tactic to generate more profits for a certain organization.

Harley Girl 04-08-2006 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AmeliaG
Presumably some people are undecided on their opinion or flexible in what they think and will be swayed by statements which help them understand the pros and cons of it.
I highly doubt Splums on the fence with the whole .xxx !
I am in agreement with Mike Hawk and The Other Steve... he's a plant and here to cause conflict when the .xxx is brought up on message boards.

I do however, agree with you Amelia, that it is good to openly discuss the pros and cons so that those people who are uncertain may possibly be persuaded in a different direction.

Thanks AmeliaG for posting the link for letter writing your senators... every bit helps!

Splum 04-08-2006 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Young
Is this Splum guy series? He must have an agenda....

and if he doesn't have an agenda he is a fucking moron.
You called me a moron when you cannot even spell serious? :1orglaugh

Splum 04-08-2006 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeHawk
Omg...you work for .XXX ....hahahaaha.....you must...Say hi to Jason.... :1orglaugh
Be careful with your accusations you have no idea who I am. I am not your sheep and you keep lobbying for the FSC buddy I am sure they have given you some nice kickbacks.


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