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Kimmykim · 05-06-2002, 02:24 PM

Wonder how they are going to find a way to impose yet another proposed American law on non US people with domain names...

http://www.newsbytes.com/news/02/176371.html

redshift · 05-06-2002, 02:28 PM

These dumb fucks just dont have a clue do they

Scootermuze · 05-06-2002, 02:33 PM

Hmm.. I think that should have been the law from the gitgo. It would sure cut down on scam and ripoff sites. If there's nothing to hide, then no biggie.

Fletch XXX · 05-06-2002, 02:37 PM

I agree mandatory true contact info on domain registrations. I have attempted to contact too many "admins" that were never proper addresses and most are registered to internetional cheaters and such.

Get a PO box if you're scared but real contact info SHOULD be mandatory. Dont know how to enforce it though.

Brujah · 05-06-2002, 02:42 PM

I think they want us all just to move somewhere else.

Forkbeard · 05-06-2002, 02:48 PM

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These dumb fucks just dont have a clue do they

These dumb fucks couldn't find a clue if it was tattooed on their private parts -- in braille.

Kimmykim · 05-06-2002, 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by Forkbeard

These dumb fucks couldn't find a clue if it was tattooed on their private parts -- in braille.

True, true.

UnseenWorld · 05-06-2002, 06:19 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim
Wonder how they are going to find a way to impose yet another proposed American law on non US people with domain names...

http://www.newsbytes.com/news/02/176371.html

Well, I've run into quite a few AMERICAN webmasters who put bogus information in their domain name registrations, which is probably a form of "wire fraud," a pretty serious crime. They tell mel, "Oh, I don't want to get spam" or "I'm trying to maintain some anonymity." Well, buttheads, you'll get spam no matter what...deal with it. And if you can't deal with your family knowing what you do, don't do it. They're going to find out eventually. I guarantee it.

vidsweb · 05-06-2002, 06:43 PM

Good luck to them trying to enforce that law.

How are they gonna verify the contact info on all the domains out there anyways? There are millions of domains already registered to people in over 100 countries around the world.

12clicks · 05-06-2002, 06:53 PM

um, if you pay your registration bill, who cares what name you use. It's really no ones business.
If fraud is being committed from a site, that site can easily be shut down. As someone who deals with more fraud per day than most of you do in a lifetime, I know this law isn't about fraud, its about an excuse for the government to grab more regulatory authority.
There *is* not and *should* not be a law forbidding you to buy somthing as silly as a domain name under an assumed name.

You clowns should gain some consistency about how much government regulation you want.

vidsweb · 05-06-2002, 06:57 PM

I guess the US government thinks they still own the Internet, but I think Al Gore still owns it because the government never paid him for it yet.

Forkbeard · 05-06-2002, 07:29 PM

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I've run into quite a few AMERICAN webmasters who put bogus information in their domain name registrations, which is probably a form of "wire fraud," a pretty serious crime.

No it isn't.

Fraud, in any form, is a false statement made with intent to derive some sort of criminal benefit therefrom.

There are plenty of good reasons to put bogus information in domain name registrations, among which the desire for privacy must certainly be numbered.

Kimmykim · 05-06-2002, 08:19 PM

That damn 12clicks, he always makes a good argument.

12clicks · 05-06-2002, 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim
That damn 12clicks, he always makes a good argument.

sucking up to me will not stop me from stealing Brad away from you.

fiveyes · 05-06-2002, 09:17 PM

Anyone wondering just how they plan to arrest someone
who has supplied false contact info in the first place...

Forkbeard · 05-06-2002, 09:46 PM

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Originally posted by fiveyes
Anyone wondering just how they plan to arrest someone
who has supplied false contact info in the first place...

Easy. Along with the felony for the false info, they'll make it a Class A misdemeanor for a registraar to fail to verify the info. Then all the registraars within the reach of US law will start demanding faxed photo IDs, proof of address, and suchlike -- and charging an extra fifty bucks a domain to handle the administrative overhead and compensate for the regulatory risk.

Then everyone will start using overseas registraars not subject to US laws. Then the US registratraars will scream for a law forbidding US citizens to register a domain with anyone other than a US registraar. An obliging Congress will ride to the rescue, citing the need to protect America's high tech service companies or some such drivel.

Classic regulatory mission creep with a dose of unintended consequences thrown in.

This shit happens over and over and over and over. It's as predictable as erosion.

SleazyDream · 05-06-2002, 09:58 PM

Just arrest 12clicks and all the world's probelms will go away.

UnseenWorld · 05-06-2002, 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
um, if you pay your registration bill, who cares what name you use. It's really no ones business.
If fraud is being committed from a site, that site can easily be shut down. As someone who deals with more fraud per day than most of you do in a lifetime, I know this law isn't about fraud, its about an excuse for the government to grab more regulatory authority.
There *is* not and *should* not be a law forbidding you to buy somthing as silly as a domain name under an assumed name.

You clowns should gain some consistency about how much government regulation you want.

Who cares? People care. That's pretty obvious. Not being a "John Doe" is a sign of honesty. Dealing with honest people is important.

I've run into people trying to get in to see my content, which is passworded, who literally couldn't prove who they were or that they possessed a website.

A real, honorable business operates in the daylight.

kenny · 05-06-2002, 11:53 PM

Now for the next topic, TAXES TAXES TAXES

12clicks · 05-07-2002, 06:09 AM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld

I've run into people trying to get in to see my content, which is passworded, who literally couldn't prove who they were or that they possessed a website.

so you want a law passed so that the odd trixster won't see your dopey pics.
hahahahahaha
you *DESERVE* to be legislated right out of business.
the short sightedness of some people is truly amazing.
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forkbeard, you get it exactly.

Kimmykim · 05-07-2002, 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

sucking up to me will not stop me from stealing Brad away from you.

Keep talking like that and you won't get within 20 feet of him again ;)

05-06-2002, 02:24 PM	#1
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Laws, laws, laws Wonder how they are going to find a way to impose yet another proposed American law on non US people with domain names... http://www.newsbytes.com/news/02/176371.html

05-06-2002, 02:37 PM	#4
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	I agree mandatory true contact info on domain registrations. I have attempted to contact too many "admins" that were never proper addresses and most are registered to internetional cheaters and such. Get a PO box if you're scared but real contact info SHOULD be mandatory. Dont know how to enforce it though. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

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05-06-2002, 06:43 PM	#9
vidsweb Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pornland Posts: 698	Good luck to them trying to enforce that law. How are they gonna verify the contact info on all the domains out there anyways? There are millions of domains already registered to people in over 100 countries around the world. __________________ Just give'r

05-06-2002, 06:53 PM	#10
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	um, if you pay your registration bill, who cares what name you use. It's really no ones business. If fraud is being committed from a site, that site can easily be shut down. As someone who deals with more fraud per day than most of you do in a lifetime, I know this law isn't about fraud, its about an excuse for the government to grab more regulatory authority. There is not and should not be a law forbidding you to buy somthing as silly as a domain name under an assumed name. You clowns should gain some consistency about how much government regulation you want. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

05-06-2002, 02:28 PM	#2
redshift Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: anus fuckin' yo mama Posts: 1,044	These dumb fucks just dont have a clue do they

05-06-2002, 02:33 PM	#3
Scootermuze Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 4,513	Hmm.. I think that should have been the law from the gitgo. It would sure cut down on scam and ripoff sites. If there's nothing to hide, then no biggie.

05-06-2002, 06:57 PM	#11
vidsweb Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pornland Posts: 698	I guess the US government thinks they still own the Internet, but I think Al Gore still owns it because the government never paid him for it yet. __________________ Just give'r

05-06-2002, 08:19 PM	#13
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	That damn 12clicks, he always makes a good argument.

05-06-2002, 09:17 PM	#15
fiveyes Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,680	Anyone wondering just how they plan to arrest someone who has supplied false contact info in the first place...

05-06-2002, 09:58 PM	#17
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