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Kimmykim 05-06-2002 02:24 PM

Laws, laws, laws
 
Wonder how they are going to find a way to impose yet another proposed American law on non US people with domain names...

http://www.newsbytes.com/news/02/176371.html

redshift 05-06-2002 02:28 PM

These dumb fucks just dont have a clue do they

Scootermuze 05-06-2002 02:33 PM

Hmm.. I think that should have been the law from the gitgo. It would sure cut down on scam and ripoff sites. If there's nothing to hide, then no biggie.

Fletch XXX 05-06-2002 02:37 PM

I agree mandatory true contact info on domain registrations. I have attempted to contact too many "admins" that were never proper addresses and most are registered to internetional cheaters and such.

Get a PO box if you're scared but real contact info SHOULD be mandatory. Dont know how to enforce it though.

Brujah 05-06-2002 02:42 PM

I think they want us all just to move somewhere else.

Forkbeard 05-06-2002 02:48 PM

Quote:

These dumb fucks just dont have a clue do they
These dumb fucks couldn't find a clue if it was tattooed on their private parts -- in braille.

Kimmykim 05-06-2002 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by Forkbeard


These dumb fucks couldn't find a clue if it was tattooed on their private parts -- in braille.


True, true.

UnseenWorld 05-06-2002 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
Wonder how they are going to find a way to impose yet another proposed American law on non US people with domain names...

http://www.newsbytes.com/news/02/176371.html

Well, I've run into quite a few AMERICAN webmasters who put bogus information in their domain name registrations, which is probably a form of "wire fraud," a pretty serious crime. They tell mel, "Oh, I don't want to get spam" or "I'm trying to maintain some anonymity." Well, buttheads, you'll get spam no matter what...deal with it. And if you can't deal with your family knowing what you do, don't do it. They're going to find out eventually. I guarantee it.

vidsweb 05-06-2002 06:43 PM

Good luck to them trying to enforce that law.

How are they gonna verify the contact info on all the domains out there anyways? There are millions of domains already registered to people in over 100 countries around the world.

12clicks 05-06-2002 06:53 PM

um, if you pay your registration bill, who cares what name you use. It's really no ones business.
If fraud is being committed from a site, that site can easily be shut down. As someone who deals with more fraud per day than most of you do in a lifetime, I know this law isn't about fraud, its about an excuse for the government to grab more regulatory authority.
There *is* not and *should* not be a law forbidding you to buy somthing as silly as a domain name under an assumed name.


You clowns should gain some consistency about how much government regulation you want.

vidsweb 05-06-2002 06:57 PM

I guess the US government thinks they still own the Internet, but I think Al Gore still owns it because the government never paid him for it yet.

Forkbeard 05-06-2002 07:29 PM

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I've run into quite a few AMERICAN webmasters who put bogus information in their domain name registrations, which is probably a form of "wire fraud," a pretty serious crime.
No it isn't.

Fraud, in any form, is a false statement made with intent to derive some sort of criminal benefit therefrom.

There are plenty of good reasons to put bogus information in domain name registrations, among which the desire for privacy must certainly be numbered.

Kimmykim 05-06-2002 08:19 PM

That damn 12clicks, he always makes a good argument.

12clicks 05-06-2002 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim
That damn 12clicks, he always makes a good argument.
sucking up to me will not stop me from stealing Brad away from you.

fiveyes 05-06-2002 09:17 PM

Anyone wondering just how they plan to arrest someone
who has supplied false contact info in the first place...:1orglaugh

Forkbeard 05-06-2002 09:46 PM

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Originally posted by fiveyes
Anyone wondering just how they plan to arrest someone
who has supplied false contact info in the first place...:1orglaugh

Easy. Along with the felony for the false info, they'll make it a Class A misdemeanor for a registraar to fail to verify the info. Then all the registraars within the reach of US law will start demanding faxed photo IDs, proof of address, and suchlike -- and charging an extra fifty bucks a domain to handle the administrative overhead and compensate for the regulatory risk.

Then everyone will start using overseas registraars not subject to US laws. Then the US registratraars will scream for a law forbidding US citizens to register a domain with anyone other than a US registraar. An obliging Congress will ride to the rescue, citing the need to protect America's high tech service companies or some such drivel.

Classic regulatory mission creep with a dose of unintended consequences thrown in.

This shit happens over and over and over and over. It's as predictable as erosion.

SleazyDream 05-06-2002 09:58 PM

Just arrest 12clicks and all the world's probelms will go away.

UnseenWorld 05-06-2002 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
um, if you pay your registration bill, who cares what name you use. It's really no ones business.
If fraud is being committed from a site, that site can easily be shut down. As someone who deals with more fraud per day than most of you do in a lifetime, I know this law isn't about fraud, its about an excuse for the government to grab more regulatory authority.
There *is* not and *should* not be a law forbidding you to buy somthing as silly as a domain name under an assumed name.


You clowns should gain some consistency about how much government regulation you want.

Who cares? People care. That's pretty obvious. Not being a "John Doe" is a sign of honesty. Dealing with honest people is important.

I've run into people trying to get in to see my content, which is passworded, who literally couldn't prove who they were or that they possessed a website.

A real, honorable business operates in the daylight.

kenny 05-06-2002 11:53 PM

Now for the next topic, TAXES TAXES TAXES

12clicks 05-07-2002 06:09 AM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld


I've run into people trying to get in to see my content, which is passworded, who literally couldn't prove who they were or that they possessed a website.

so you want a law passed so that the odd trixster won't see your dopey pics.
hahahahahaha
you *DESERVE* to be legislated right out of business.
the short sightedness of some people is truly amazing.
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forkbeard, you get it exactly.

Kimmykim 05-07-2002 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

sucking up to me will not stop me from stealing Brad away from you.

Keep talking like that and you won't get within 20 feet of him again ;)


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