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Old 04-01-2006, 10:57 PM   #101
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Clearly, he'd MUCH rather just whine about it. I can smell this type from a mile away, and they're the same ones standing in the soup kitchen line at the end of the month, crying about how hard it is to earn money.
Hmm.. maybe I should learn to steal other people's content and pretend it is my own. Will that make me rich like you?

Or will I still have to spend my time spamming adult webmaster boards trying to hawk $200 software?
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Old 04-01-2006, 10:57 PM   #102
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Old 04-01-2006, 10:58 PM   #103
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You know that you can turn off the syndication of your content, right?

You're like the guy giving out free cookie samples, then bitching when no one buys the real thing.

Disable your feed, put a notice not to syndicate it (which would only apply in the future, of course) cry more, or shut the fuck up. I predict you will choose "cry more," but please surprise me.
No see, we syndicate our content so that our readers can read our posts easier....we syndicate our content so that legitimate sites like www.justwantfuck.com can syndicate our content with our links in it to a larger audience...not for some dumb fuck who can't be bothered to write his own content or cut his own thumbnails to steal, change the links in, and try to pass off as his own.

Now, type one of your witty little replies and tell me I just don't understand...but trust me, after two days of this tread...I do understand. You'd rather steal the work of others than try to do something yourself.
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Shit man, I've sold 11 of these things since 1am (early this morning). Thanks for all the bumps and everything, and thanks to everyone who has bought a copy or tried a demo!
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Old 04-01-2006, 11:04 PM   #105
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Now, type one of your witty little replies and tell me I just don't understand
Ok, here it is:

Post a notice asking people not to do what RSS is designed to do: syndicate your content.

It's not rocket science, but then again .. strap me in, cowboy! Let's blast off!

Keep it bumpin', baby, you're doing fine.
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Old 04-01-2006, 11:04 PM   #106
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No see, we syndicate our content so that our readers can read our posts easier....we syndicate our content so that legitimate sites like www.justwantfuck.com can syndicate our content with our links in it to a larger audience...not for some dumb fuck who can't be bothered to write his own content or cut his own thumbnails to steal, change the links in, and try to pass off as his own.

Now, type one of your witty little replies and tell me I just don't understand...but trust me, after two days of this tread...I do understand. You'd rather steal the work of others than try to do something yourself.

The software does not allow changing any links. The linking system will only create links from unlinked words or phrases.
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Old 04-01-2006, 11:09 PM   #107
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The software does not allow changing any links. The linking system will only create links from unlinked words or phrases.
Clearly.

Amusing, to say the least, how rumors start.
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You're right, there is a difference between a few line excerpts with a link to the full article at the original website & using the entire article without giving any credit or link back. ...

I think the problem with the RSS-to-splog programs is giving the user the ability to change the original RSS feed to swap out links (like a poker site that uses syndicated content & changes all original referrer links to his own).

Our software gives credit on every article to the source whether snippet, or full feed, and also will not change existing links.
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Old 04-01-2006, 11:17 PM   #109
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OK, here is a little plugin for you blog owners that don't want thieves like edgeprod making money off your content.

It will insert a copyright notice into all your full feeds specifying that it is for non-commercial use only.

http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/a...-atom-feeds/1/
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Old 04-01-2006, 11:22 PM   #110
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Our software gives credit on every article to the source whether snippet, or full feed, and also will not change existing links.
So, it will copy the post with MY affiliate links? What about the pictures which have my afflilate codes in the link?
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That's a great resource. Anyone who doesn't want their content syndicated to AutoBlogger Pro sites should *definitely* put that notice up.

However, remember that many times, no one looks at your feed itself, so make sure you put it somewhere VERY obvious.

Understand that NO ONE that I know is interested in "stealing" anyone's content. If someone posts that they don't want it taken, we definitely want to comply with that! So PLEASE make a nice, bold notice if this is the case.

I don't know if I trust a link from someone slimy like MrLuvr, but when I get done jerking off to the men in panties on his site, I might just have to make a tutorial on adding a notice like this to your own blog.

FYI: thanks for all the bumps. just did another live demo.
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Old 04-01-2006, 11:24 PM   #112
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So, it will copy the post with MY affiliate links? What about the pictures which have my afflilate codes in the link?
If you syndicate it with your links, yes, I'd keep them. That's what syndication is all about -- I am giving you FREE promotion, FREE hardlinks for SEO, and FREE clicks to your sponsors. You'd be a fool to yell at me for it, but yet .. it happens!

I would always honor your affiliate links. You're so hostile about it, you never really took the time to learn.

Don't worry, it's a common misconception.
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Old 04-02-2006, 12:26 AM   #113
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That would be like me copying the Declaraction of Independence, changing a few sentances, and saying I wrote it.
Actually, the text of the Declaration is in the public domain so you could probably make a derivative work. Or use it as a basis to a movie without violating copyright or paying a royalty.
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Old 04-02-2006, 12:41 AM   #114
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Actually, the text of the Declaration is in the public domain so you could probably make a derivative work. Or use it as a basis to a movie without violating copyright or paying a royalty.
Mmmm hmmmm.

But they don't want to let the truth get in the way of a lousy comparison.
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Old 04-02-2006, 12:45 AM   #115
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While trying to decide between AutoBlogger and RSS2Blog edgeprod gave me a live walkthrough and let me play around with the features of AutoBlogger - I'm going to have to admit it was very easy to use as well as very customizable if I wished to do so. Good stuff from these guys.
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Old 04-02-2006, 12:46 AM   #116
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Shit man, I've sold 11 of these things since 1am (early this morning). Thanks for all the bumps and everything, and thanks to everyone who has bought a copy or tried a demo!
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While trying to decide between AutoBlogger and RSS2Blog edgeprod gave me a live walkthrough and let me play around with the features of AutoBlogger - I'm going to have to admit it was very easy to use as well as very customizable if I wished to do so. Good stuff from these guys.
Thanks much, I appreciate the props.

Make sure you check out RSS2Blog before making any buying decisions, just so you can be sure you get the product that's right for you and not just the one you saw first.

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Hey you.

God, could your website get any hotter? Hurry up and let me promote it before everyone else has your galleries all over the web. Hehe.
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Thanks much, I appreciate the props.

Make sure you check out RSS2Blog before making any buying decisions, just so you can be sure you get the product that's right for you and not just the one you saw first.

I had already checked it beforehand - for what I need, AutoBlogger is the software of choice.
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I had already checked it beforehand - for what I need, AutoBlogger is the software of choice.
That's the conclusion I came to, also. I appreciate you saying it.

I just want to make it clear that the guys at RSS2Blog have a product, too, and we have nothing against it, despite what might be tossed our way.
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edgeprod do u work on the backlinks for these sites running autoblogger at all.
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edgeprod do u work on the backlinks for these sites running autoblogger at all.
Can you clarify a little bit? I'd be happy to answer if I understand the question a little bit better.
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why does autobloggerpro.com have PR 0 ?
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why does autobloggerpro.com have PR 0 ?
Maybe thats the way they planned it.
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why does autobloggerpro.com have PR 0 ?
Actually, it has a PR of 3, but it's an easy mistake to make, I guess.

As I understand it, as a way to disambiguate it from the main company site, it was launched on its own domain, only recently.
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Maybe thats the way they planned it.
Hehe, it's more an issue with his Google Toolbar, or whatever he's using to check.

More likely, it was just a troll.
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I think the sentiments MrLuvr is expressing are pretty common in the blogosphere. A lot of bloggers have an RSS feed soley for the purpose of allowing their subscribers to read the posts using Bloglines or other readers. They don't want their posts republished elsewhere & often don't understand (or care about) the SEO benefits of non-reciprocal links.

Example: thread on the WordPress support forums with a blogger trying to report an AutoBlogger Pro user for "stealing" her content via RSS

Every post in the site accused of stealing has a clearly labeled link back to the original author. He's not doing anything shady, yet she's being told to contact his hosting provider to try & get the site shut down!



I think it's important to get the bloggers to clearly label their intended use of RSS feeds. There are more than enough bloggers who want to see their RSS feeds syndicated & then we can avoid the "you're a thief - you're a whiner" argument entirely.
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Eh, I doubt people will bother to label. They'd rather yell about it later. It makes them feel important.

I have always and will always honor requests to remove feeds, if the person is ignorant of the benefits to them.

Ignorance isn't ALWAYS bliss, I guess.
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Our software gives credit on every article to the source whether snippet, or full feed, and also will not change existing links.


That's how it should be done! Good stuff, Chio.
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Our software gives credit on every article to the source whether snippet, or full feed, and also will not change existing links.
This is a thing that benefits everyone
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That's the conclusion I came to, also. I appreciate you saying it.

I just want to make it clear that the guys at RSS2Blog have a product, too, and we have nothing against it, despite what might be tossed our way.
Here we go again....

Ok so why do you keep knocking it if you have nothing against it?

As an apparent gung ho Auto Blogger Pro Rep, please explain in detail why "your" product is better than RSS2Blog? Rather than some vague crap about it not being your style to suck in people who don't know any better..

Yes ABP can alter other people's feeds to link certain words, RSS2B cannot do that. But there are a million features that RSS2Blog offers that ABP doesn't.

Do a search on this forum and you will find most people much prefer RSS2B over ABP. Probably the only reason you aren't getting pissed on (apart from the ethics argument of using other people's feeds) in this thread is that lots of people are in Phoenix. Do a poll next week and see. It will give you some time to make some fake nicks to help you try to win the poll.

As was said earlier, why the fuck would I want to pay a non transferable license for each set of ten domains, just to post someone else's content when I can use a single simple interface with RSS2Blog to control hundreds or thousands of blogs over many domains and/or blog hosts to post feeds, search results or, as I usually do, post my own content.

If you use ABP instead of RSS2Blog you either:

1) Haven't looked at RSS2Blog close enough
2) Are satisfied with a blog empire of 10 blogs or less.
3) Enjoy flushing dollars down the toilet as you keep buying more licenses.
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Old 04-02-2006, 09:40 AM   #132
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OK, here is a little plugin for you blog owners that don't want thieves like edgeprod making money off your content.

It will insert a copyright notice into all your full feeds specifying that it is for non-commercial use only.

http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/a...-atom-feeds/1/
Don't worry, nobody is going to steal your blog posts. I'd consider your lack of writing skills protection from syndication. You are one, tiny, completely irrelevant voice against a common and solid practice. Shake your impotent little fist at us all you want, you aren't changing shit.
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Here we go again....

Ok so why do you keep knocking it if you have nothing against it?

As an apparent gung ho Auto Blogger Pro Rep, please explain in detail why "your" product is better than RSS2Blog? Rather than some vague crap about it not being your style to suck in people who don't know any better..

Yes ABP can alter other people's feeds to link certain words, RSS2B cannot do that. But there are a million features that RSS2Blog offers that ABP doesn't.

Do a search on this forum and you will find most people much prefer RSS2B over ABP. Probably the only reason you aren't getting pissed on (apart from the ethics argument of using other people's feeds) in this thread is that lots of people are in Phoenix. Do a poll next week and see. It will give you some time to make some fake nicks to help you try to win the poll.

As was said earlier, why the fuck would I want to pay a non transferable license for each set of ten domains, just to post someone else's content when I can use a single simple interface with RSS2Blog to control hundreds or thousands of blogs over many domains and/or blog hosts to post feeds, search results or, as I usually do, post my own content.

If you use ABP instead of RSS2Blog you either:

1) Haven't looked at RSS2Blog close enough
2) Are satisfied with a blog empire of 10 blogs or less.
3) Enjoy flushing dollars down the toilet as you keep buying more licenses.


well said

Now if the 10 domain license thing goes away RSS2B might be in trouble.
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I can see the products being a useful SUPPLEMENT to your site. i.e. you are writing your own content, PLUS adding relevant content for your readers from other sources.

But, not the way it is being by unscrupulous webmasters who couldn't string together two sentences of their own, if their live depended on it.
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Does it also ping to?

Does autoblogger pro ping aswell?
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so once you set up one of the blogs, if you are doing a mainstream site, what is the typical adsense income you guys are seeing?
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Here we go again....

Ok so why do you keep knocking it if you have nothing against it?

As an apparent gung ho Auto Blogger Pro Rep, please explain in detail why "your" product is better than RSS2Blog? Rather than some vague crap about it not being your style to suck in people who don't know any better..

Yes ABP can alter other people's feeds to link certain words, RSS2B cannot do that. But there are a million features that RSS2Blog offers that ABP doesn't.

Do a search on this forum and you will find most people much prefer RSS2B over ABP. Probably the only reason you aren't getting pissed on (apart from the ethics argument of using other people's feeds) in this thread is that lots of people are in Phoenix. Do a poll next week and see. It will give you some time to make some fake nicks to help you try to win the poll.

As was said earlier, why the fuck would I want to pay a non transferable license for each set of ten domains, just to post someone else's content when I can use a single simple interface with RSS2Blog to control hundreds or thousands of blogs over many domains and/or blog hosts to post feeds, search results or, as I usually do, post my own content.

If you use ABP instead of RSS2Blog you either:

1) Haven't looked at RSS2Blog close enough
2) Are satisfied with a blog empire of 10 blogs or less.
3) Enjoy flushing dollars down the toilet as you keep buying more licenses.
I don't really care about polls or your fake nicks. I am a Moderator on Xbiz with more posts than I ever want to make again -- that's enough nicks for me. The fact is, ABP works better for me, and doesn't feel like something that was thrown together in an afternoon. There's no reason for you to be crying, especially since I'm directly telling people to try RSS2Blog and decide for themselves.

It's amusing that the features you tout for RSS2Blog are things I'm doing with ABP. I understand if you aren't familiar with those features, but that's a lot to assume.

Would you like to show me RSS2Blog, and let me see what I'm missing? To me, it's just not polished, and too clunky. For other people, it's probably fine. Because I have people working for me, I would rather that they are using something easy to use with a simple interface. This may not be the case for everyone -- which is why I suggest trying both.

I'll answer your point-by-point statements also:

1) I saw what I needed to see -- that it wasn't for me.
2) 10 blogs or less wouldn't be worthwhile. My blogs don't make a billion dollars each. I play a numbers game, so I don't have to go apeshit making every little optimization to each site, and so my employees don't end up bogged down in too much blog work instead of submitting galleries.
3) I buy the licenses because I think it's a good value for what I'm getting. You're comparing an all-you-can-eat buffet to a good meal. I'll keep paying for good meals, because I'm just not in the mood for a buffet that doesn't suit my tastes.

I guess what I'm saying is: I want a really good steak -- please don't tell me I'm stupid because I should have 50 hamburgers instead.
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Now if the 10 domain license thing goes away RSS2B might be in trouble.
The only feature of RSS2Blog that you find better than ABP is the licensing format?
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Old 04-02-2006, 01:31 PM   #140
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I can see the products being a useful SUPPLEMENT to your site. i.e. you are writing your own content, PLUS adding relevant content for your readers from other sources.
I can't see not doing this. In the meantime, blogs that get syndicated are getting big benefit, especially if they are well written and a lot of people are linking them. That's one of the key reasons to offer syndication. People that "get it" love the linkbacks.
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so once you set up one of the blogs, if you are doing a mainstream site, what is the typical adsense income you guys are seeing?
It really depends on your keywords, and how you've set up the SEO. Like with anything, choose a bad niche, and you're going to limit your income. Most people end up shooting for $200-$400 per blog, per month. I don't really see a reason to go "crazy" to get above this.

I think you'll find that's a reasonable target for most people, but some misconstrue blogging as a "get rich quick" scheme, which it isn't. It takes work, but once you invest that initial time, an autoblogging product can greatly enhance your ability to build a larger network with less maintenance.
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Old 04-02-2006, 01:35 PM   #142
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Does autoblogger pro ping aswell?
The nice thing is: every time there is a change to your blog (you pull in the sites you're syndicating for example, and they're posted), AutoBlogger Pro creates a Google Sitemap of the blog, and pings Google to let them know it's been changed.

A very handy feature if you've created a free Google Sitemaps account!

ICQ me if you would like to see how this happens.
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Speaking of which, I do live sales demonstrations. If someone from RSS2Blog wants to walk me through configuring something EXACTLY as they feel shows off their features the best, I will demo their software side-by-side with prospective customers of ABP. I think showing both is A) a great way to demonstrate the features of both products, so the customer can choose what works best for them, and B) a good way to let people choose if they want to license ABP 10 domains at a time, or RSS2Blog for "life" (i..e, which method has more value for them).

Let me know, I'd be more than happy to do this!
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Your "er yeah ABP can do that too" type response doesn't quite qualify as a detailed feature comparison.

I am not interested in software that simply regurgitates other people's content. I rarely use the RSS part of RSS2Blog. The last time I spoke to Chio about what ABP could do, he said it couldn't post my own content or affiliate data feeds without going through a bunch of manual steps, like queing up future posts or posting manually somewhere else and pulling the feed which defeats the purpose of an auto poster.

Even if in some future version, ABP could do everything RSS2Blog can do now and that's a big "if", the 10 license thing kills the deal every time.

I am not knocking Chio or the effort he has put into the program but you aren't doing a fair comparison. For anyone who wants more than 10 blogs on autopilot, I recommend (but do not work for or push an affiliate link for) RSS2Blog if you cannot get something better custom made.
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The only feature of RSS2Blog that you find better than ABP is the licensing format?
I like some of the features of RSS2B and I like some of the features of ABP. What it comes down to in the end is saving money. When you have considerably more than 10 blogs, the price difference is significant.
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Your "er yeah ABP can do that too" type response doesn't quite qualify as a detailed feature comparison.

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Ozman. I have posted features list a number of times for ABP, and when we spoke, it was a long time ago. A lot of changes have gone into ABP since then.

I understand from using both, that each has a role to play but...

As for rss2blog being better or having more features.....
They have twelve "reasons to buy" listed on the site, some of which aren't even worth mentioning. They are just how the software SHOULD work in the first place. ie opens news items in a new window. Great stuff

The other thing that gets me about them (Yes I own it) is the fact that things that should be included in the original software, you have to purchase as a seperate addon. Autoblogger Pro upgrades, and new features have, and always will be free.

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Your "er yeah ABP can do that too" type response doesn't quite qualify as a detailed feature comparison.

I am not interested in software that simply regurgitates other people's content. I rarely use the RSS part of RSS2Blog. The last time I spoke to Chio about what ABP could do, he said it couldn't post my own content or affiliate data feeds without going through a bunch of manual steps, like queing up future posts or posting manually somewhere else and pulling the feed which defeats the purpose of an auto poster.
I can't speak for everyone, but I have no problem with the features you're talking about. I don't think I'm any smarter than the next guy, but, of course, your mileage may vary.

I wouldn't talk about features ABP can "can do that too," because I really don't care about what software that I've decided isn't right for me can or can't do. I'm not really interested in a "side by side" comparison, either, because they're different products, that do different things well, and different things not so well. ABP suits me, RSS2Blog doesn't. RSS2Blog suits you, ABP doesn't. Who cares? It's not worth losing sleep over.

I don't want to go buy a ton of different "modules" for RSS2Blog at added cost just to replicate the features ABP comes with standard. It's just too much work for me. I like it easy, and ABP gave me easy. Call me lazy, I guess, but I like how ABP works out of the box, keeps working, and it's all good. I can build 1,000+ blogs on my 10 domain license, so I don't sweat it. When I need more licenses, I buy them.

They're not really the same thing, that's why it's "different strokes for different folks."
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I like some of the features of RSS2B and I like some of the features of ABP. What it comes down to in the end is saving money. When you have considerably more than 10 blogs, the price difference is significant.
If you say so. ABP returns enough money to me where I don't really think about it. It's not like I can build only 10 blogs with a 10 domain license, lol. I can build as many as I want.
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The other thing that gets me about them (Yes I own it) is the fact that things that should be included in the original software, you have to purchase as a seperate addon. Autoblogger Pro upgrades, and new features have, and always will be free.
Yeah, well, to each his own. They're not really interested in talking about it -- more in mentioning the 10 license thing (which is wrong for the most part anyway) over and over.
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If you say so. ABP returns enough money to me where I don't really think about it. It's not like I can build only 10 blogs with a 10 domain license, lol. I can build as many as I want.
a fool and his money...
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