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Old 03-28-2006, 04:14 AM   #1
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I have a little brother...10 years no speak...

[I was just going through some old dox on an old machine]

It's true, I have a little bro. But, as sometimes things go with family, it's been a long time since we spoke. It really sux. But I knew it was gonna be this way. I wrote this letter to him 10 years ago today, after about a year of silence. It didn't work.

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Dear Anthony, 28 March, 1996


If, even in some small way, a letter I once wrote is responsible for making things the way they are between us, then I am not completely naive if I allow myself to hope that another letter may set things right. Or at least begin the effort.

I think enough time has passed silently between us by now that we face the very real danger that we will never be brothers again. Part of that danger lies in the fact that we no longer know each other. One does not know what is in the heart of the other. We are worse than strangers, because we do not dare guess what the other is thinking. It may be that losing the person you once called ?brother? is exactly what you want. Perhaps this is the message I am expected to read in your actions. If this is correct, then I can only forgive you for leaving me to ?get the picture? in this way if you have in the center of your being already judged me a monster. In which case, I would not be deserving of any explanation, nor could you be reasonably expected to suffer my face or the sound of my voice again.

If this is really your wish, please do not think that I am self-pitying or looking to pierce your heart with guilt by acknowledging your decision in this way. A man has a right to choose who is in his life, after all. I would not want to be a tolerated presence simply because we are related by blood, simply because we have a history. These things alone do not entitle anything. Except perhaps the dignity of an answer. If it is really your wish that our relationship remain as it is now, that we do nothing more than endure the sight of one another on those occasions as will surely arise from time to time until at least our parents are all dead, that we perform the occasional handshake or even the terrible embrace, if only to confer respect on the corpse of the moment, that we sit in the same room, suffering the stares of those among us who know we are brothers who do not speak, if it is really your wish, then you must make the choice visibly. You must take that responsibility. I will not look back on this time when I am old and think silently behind my wrinkled brow that I might have guessed wrong, or that we lost each other because neither bothered to check what the other was thinking. I must know. You need do nothing more than mail me a blank sheet of paper, if you like. But I must know.

On the other hand, if your mind is not yet clear on the matter, your heart not yet settled in one direction or the other, then I urge you to consider a reconciliation. Or at least entertain the possibility. As I wrote earlier, we do not know each other. If we do not despise one another (and in this regard I can only speak for myself), there is at least a small hope. We might come together now as strangers and find that time has done a wonderful, miraculous thing. It might have changed us, altered the memories, or shifted perception, or callused a point of tenderness, or blunted a sharp edge, or in some way done something to us that makes meaningless all that happened and was felt before. It?s possible. I think it would be enough just to believe.

I do not fool myself, though. I know it would certainly be easier to do nothing, to surrender to the flow of months and years. That is automatic, effortless. It has been easy hasn?t it? Life can be so rich after all, so many distractions and pleasures, more than enough to bury a fleeting thought that is full of discomfort anyway. If we do anything at all, it can only be because we both believe it?s worth the trouble. I don?t have a plan, Anthony. I certainly don?t know what you want. I?m only writing because I?m plagued by the thought that things are wrong the way they are. I?m sorry to force you to think about this again, and ask you to take a position. But, I am unable to turn the page as things are. At worst, I get a blank sheet of paper in the mail. At best, a phone call, an optimistic voice. Of course, that is my hope. Maybe we still have a chance for something good between us. Maybe not, maybe it?s all blown to hell irretrievably. I just don?t want to look back and wonder that a small gesture, a tiny effort might have made the difference. Do you?




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Old 03-28-2006, 04:23 AM   #2
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Old 03-28-2006, 04:31 AM   #3
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Exactly. I'm purging, so as to avoid expressing -



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Old 03-28-2006, 04:31 AM   #4
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Did he send you a blank sheet of paper or was he indifferent? That's a very strong appeal for him to reconsider.

I just never understood siblings not being on talking terms. As a parent, the thought that my kids would not 'like' eachother enough to exchange a few words at the least, is quite unsettling. Not judging here, I just find it sad - I have cousins in this situation and because of money, spouses, jealousy, or whatever, my aunt/uncle can't have a pleasant holiday with their kids in one seating. Sad really.
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Did he send you a blank sheet of paper or was he indifferent? That's a very strong appeal for him to reconsider.

I just never understood siblings not being on talking terms. As a parent, the thought that my kids would not 'like' eachother enough to exchange a few words at the least, is quite unsettling. Not judging here, I just find it sad - I have cousins in this situation and because of money, spouses, jealousy, or whatever, my aunt/uncle can't have a pleasant holiday with their kids in one seating. Sad really.
Nothing. Weirdest is the fact that I did see him as predicted at a funeral in 2000. He was colder than our mother's corpse.



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Old 03-28-2006, 04:41 AM   #6
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Sad shit, yo.




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Old 03-28-2006, 04:49 AM   #7
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Really sad - do you have other siblings or is it just you two?
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Really sad - do you have other siblings or is it just you two?
We both have other half-sies.



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Old 03-28-2006, 05:36 AM   #9
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that's too bad. bros are supposed to be bros till the end.
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that's too bad. bros are supposed to be bros till the end.
Yeah, I heard that somewhere.




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I ripped my brother a new hole last night then again this morning. He lives in my house with me but doesn't respect things I lay down for him or ask him to do.

He was drunk last night and up till 7am. Then he stays in bed all fucking day long and does nothing with his life. He quit college and has a part time job.

I'm gonna make him get a job until his new course starts in September this year.
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I ripped my brother a new hole last night then again this morning. He lives in my house with me but doesn't respect things I lay down for him or ask him to do.

He was drunk last night and up till 7am. Then he stays in bed all fucking day long and does nothing with his life. He quit college and has a part time job.

I'm gonna make him get a job until his new course starts in September this year.

Trade ya.



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Old 03-28-2006, 06:20 AM   #13
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I have the same thing as you.. have a brother I haven't spoken with in a year or two.
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Old 03-28-2006, 06:22 AM   #14
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Don't give up. He is younger, so give him time to realize how important family is. Sometimes it takes 20 years. Write him every month, not every 10 years.
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Don't give up. He is younger, so give him time to realize how important family is. Sometimes it takes 20 years. Write him every month, not every 10 years.
"The earth is round and revolves around the sun." Heresy. Ya get it. I may as well be an obscure figure from history, the Smokin Man from X-Files, or an Alien from outer space. The capacity to disavow disruptive truth is great.

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Old 03-28-2006, 07:13 AM   #17
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It might be me who missed something important mentioned in your letter because of my poor english (I'm scandinavian) but what exactly made him so cold?
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Old 03-28-2006, 07:27 AM   #18
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is that WTC jack?

menacing and cold image thinking of how it all came down. looks like the building to me.


good luck with your bro man, don't give up.
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Old 03-28-2006, 07:50 AM   #19
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What did you do that made him like this?

I have a friend who was like a brother who did the same thing with no real explanation. It was shortly after he got involved with some chick, though.
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I haven't talked to my younger bro for 12 years. Last year we finally at least began communicating by e-mail, so at least that was a step in the right direction.

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Personally I couldn't handle something like this. My family is the most important thing to me in the world. I really feel for you and hope that someday you and your brother are able to workout your differences...
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Old 03-28-2006, 08:18 AM   #23
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I'm not close to my parents, both of them and haven't talked to them for a long time either. My parents are divorced and my dad never deserted us, but my mom raised me more. When I was a kid I would spend weekends with him and go to the beach... etc but when I turned 12 we moved to another country and I don't recall my dad paying child support even tho he has the means to. I do know that he used to watch me and take care of me a lot when I was a newborn. But when I was older I only got $100 for birthdays, and once a plane ticket to visit him, but no child support money.

He asked me to fly over and visit him and sometimes I want to and sometimes I think, "You didn't support or raise/support me when I was younger so screw you too". He did spend some time with me but never supported me financially I guess. And once I moved I only saw him once cause he lives in Europe and I'm in the U.S

So at least he's not a total deadbeat but not a great dad either.
And my mom is a whole other story.

I saw my dad a few months ago, he flew over to visit me, it was the first time I saw him in around 15 years. It was really weird. I don't know if I should visit him back or whatever.

I have lots of family issues
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I have a brother I havent seen or heard from for 25 years now.
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Nothing. Weirdest is the fact that I did see him as predicted at a funeral in 2000. He was colder than our mother's corpse.



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thats messed up man, I'm an only child so I can't really relate on the brother level, but my father and I haven't really spoken in a long time and I havent seen him since I was 18 (13 years ago) so I can relate on the not speaking to family for an extended period of time.

Sorry to hear about your mother, hopefully one day you and your brother can get together and sort out your differences
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Old 03-28-2006, 08:52 AM   #26
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Well my mother died in 2003 and still nobody could contact the missing brother. Assume he knows somehow about it, but can't even be sure of that.
No animosity either, he just up and left hitchhiking south when I was 16 or so. Just sort of a free spirit he was/is.
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Old 03-28-2006, 09:02 AM   #27
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don't feel so bad. i also have a brother (5 years younger) who i haven't spoken to in 8 years.

he had the audacity to call my father (who i rarely speak to as well) and ask him to ask me if i was attending his wedding in december of this year. yet, not a phone call from him nor an invitation so i predict he had a motive for this which is most likely financial.

needless to say, i didn't bother to respond for he doesn't deserve my breath needed for an answer.

just because you're related by blood does not make one family. in my case, i consider him a brother by default.
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Yeah, no matter how many times you say this ppl never seem to understand.....
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Fuck I get so worried now when I read all these stories about brothers not talking to eachother.

I have brother that is three years younger than me. My brother still lives with our mom that has been a bit sick lately and he is not really helping when he is not going to school and getting in to all kinds of shit. He also calls his girlfriends cellphone for like $500 a month and every month. I talked to him about the bills and his behavior and I pay the bills but I just get some rude answer from him and that is not the brother I remember having. I dont know whats happend but he has changed a lot the last 1hahaha189; year. Maybe it's beacuse I have been traveling so much lately and are moving to Bangkok for a longtime in less than a week.

More or less one year ago we had a big fight and we didnt talk to eachother until very recently. I am afraid that we need to put him at a school for trouble kids and that will end our relationship totally ..

I love him so much but he just cant continue with not going to school and having this crazy agressive attitude. I hope we will still be brothers I dont know what I would do if I would loose him.
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I forgot to write that your letter 2HousePlague was very nicely written and it really got me thinking. I hope that you and your brother will find your way back to eachother sometime in the future I really do.
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no matter what happens he cannot deny the tie that binds the two of you.
I really hope and pray that you finally have the chance to talk
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Oh, a lifetime of things. Kids, you know. I was a big. But I tried to make the shadow as bright and fun a place as I could. By the time we were both men (he's 5 years younger than me), it was clear that we'd turned out really different. My dad's a self-made immigrant, who was happy to get a pair of used shoes for Christmas when he was a kid in Colombia. We both loved him. But to Anthony, he was like a God, whereas to me he was a man. Anthony worked hard to prove his worth to the eyes he thought were measuring him, to the persistent, difficult scrutiny of a father's judgement. Me, I just explored. He envied me my freedom... from responsibility. Everything was easy for me. He struggled. Though, I offered him love in every way I could, at times I was a flake. At times, I was impatient with him. At times, an arrogant ass.

I think it was probably just pretty hard for him (and a lot of other people) to be around me when I was in my early 20's.

But the funny thing is, I have become acquainted with adversity since our connection as brothers was broken. I feel I could relate more... I'm certain of it.

Whenever I speak with my dad on the phone (like once a month), I ache in the big hollow of the conversation that never touches on Anthony as a subject. They both live in NY, close. At most, I'll ask "How's Anthony doing?" I'll get a run-down on career and girlfriend type details. But what I want to ask is "You think he's ready, Dad? You think if I call him today, he'll talk to me..." I dream I'd ring him up, and that there'd be a slience on the phone, and we'd both gasp for realizing the enormity of our stupidity. We'd laugh and get giddy, and joke about hopping on "next planes". That would b cool.

I also wonder how we'd both be different now if our relationship had been closer all these years. What things could I have told him? What things might he have asked me? What wisdom has grown in that stranger, that *man* I once played wiffle ball with in the park?


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bottom line..he's your bro. speak to him..life's to short no matter what it is...

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Just try to make a phone call. Just start it from a simple hi-bye conversation. Then let's see how it progress...
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Oh, a lifetime of things. Kids, you know. I was a big. But I tried to make the shadow as bright and fun a place as I could. By the time we were both men (he's 5 years younger than me), it was clear that we'd turned out really different. My dad's a self-made immigrant, who was happy to get a pair of used shoes for Christmas when he was a kid in Colombia. We both loved him. But to Anthony, he was like a God, whereas to me he was a man. Anthony worked hard to prove his worth to the eyes he thought were measuring him, to the persistent, difficult scrutiny of a father's judgement. Me, I just explored. He envied me my freedom... from responsibility. Everything was easy for me. He struggled. Though, I offered him love in every way I could, at times I was a flake. At times, I was impatient with him. At times, an arrogant ass.

I think it was probably just pretty hard for him (and a lot of other people) to be around me when I was in my early 20's.

But the funny thing is, I have become acquainted with adversity since our connection as brothers was broken. I feel I could relate more... I'm certain of it.

Whenever I speak with my dad on the phone (like once a month), I ache in the big hollow of the conversation that never touches on Anthony as a subject. They both live in NY, close. At most, I'll ask "How's Anthony doing?" I'll get a run-down on career and girlfriend type details. But what I want to ask is "You think he's ready, Dad? You think if I call him today, he'll talk to me..." I dream I'd ring him up, and that there'd be a slience on the phone, and we'd both gasp for realizing the enormity of our stupidity. We'd laugh and get giddy, and joke about hopping on "next planes". That would b cool.

I also wonder how we'd both be different now if our relationship had been closer all these years. What things could I have told him? What things might he have asked me? What wisdom has grown in that stranger, that *man* I once played wiffle ball with in the park?


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no offence but colombians in general are cold, at least the women i got to know in medellin, i was going out with one for about 3 months one day she just up and left for ecuador without telling me...oh well life goes on..
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Old 06-26-2006, 02:44 AM   #43
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no offence but colombians in general are cold...
No offense, but...

ARE YOU NUTZ!!!!!







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No offense, but...

ARE YOU NUTZ!!!!!







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I'd warm that cold bitch for sure
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hey Jack,

Why don't you ask your Dad if you think he's ready? (what do u have to lose?)
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This thread is really sad. What the hell did you do, lol.

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I hope things work out between you and your brother, Jack.
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I feel like I am prying reading that letter but I do hope things work out for you.
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Say you are sorry and see what happens.
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hey Jack,

Why don't you ask your Dad if you think he's ready? (what do u have to lose?)
I am sure that nothing saddens your father?s heart more than his only two sons not speaking to each other does. The fact that he stills gives you updates on your brother?s life is an indication. You need to ask your father how Anthony feels about you to see if there is any hope.

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