Question from a Content Provider/Webmaster - GoFuckYourself.com

Donny · 05-02-2002, 10:49 PM

Hello everyone!

I've been shooting exclusive content for a little over 5 years now but only recently have I begun actively pursuing new clients. In the past I worked exclusively for 3 different websites. I am now looking to find new buyers for which to shoot exclusive content. There are so many places to advertise so I wanted to ask those of you who pay for advertising:

1. Which sites/publications work best for you?

On a seperate topic:
I also started a pay site. Girls who pose for me are set up as CCBill referring partners so that they share the revenue (when someone clicks there link and joins the money is split with the referring girl). I paid for advertising on Worldsex.com only to learn the hardway that their traffic doesn't convert well at all. So here's question numbers 2 and 3:

2. From your experience, which paid advertising sites convert best?

3. Where have you found the most success advertising for webmasters to join your affiliate program?

Thanks so much to those of you who take the time to answer (and

to those of you who simply tell me to "go fuck myself

)

Donny · 05-02-2002, 11:28 PM

No opinions? Or simply not controversial enough (like the black power tshirt thread) to discuss?

AaronM · 05-02-2002, 11:51 PM

You are new to the board, you are posting in the "Fucking Around" area, and your post includes a lightly battered spam... Do not expect a lot of serious answers. I would offer suggestions if I had any but since I do not run any paysites.....

Good Luck

dipshit moron retard · 05-02-2002, 11:59 PM

i couldn't find prices on your website, i hate that!

AaronM · 05-03-2002, 12:21 AM

Nothing wrong with free content.

Mr.Fiction · 05-03-2002, 01:50 AM

MORE FEMALE MODELS AGES 18-70:

Where's the 70 year old?

Donny · 05-03-2002, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dipshit moron retard
i couldn't find prices on your website, i hate that!

That's simply because I figure serious webmasters will email me for pricing.

AaronM · 05-03-2002, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips

That's simply because I figure serious webmasters will email me for pricing.

You are kidding right?

reddawg · 05-03-2002, 11:02 AM

If you think serious webmasters are going to email you for prices, well then, you do not have to go fuck yourself, you already did.

Donny · 05-03-2002, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM

You are kidding right?

Actually I'm not. That's how I've met all my buyers. I only sell exclusive shoots. I'm not selling CD's. People regularly inquire by email. I gross $30k to $50k per month right now so something's working.

AaronM · 05-03-2002, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
I gross $30k to $50k per month right now so something's working.

I believe that is called your "imagination".

AaronM · 05-03-2002, 11:31 AM

I am not trying to bring a brother down but if you have been shooting exclusive for 5 years and you gross 30 to 50 grand a month then why have I never heard of you? I personally know some of the larger content providers and I can tell you that most of them do not gross that much in exclusive sales in a month.

Feel free to prove me wrong. Post or send me a list of your clients.

Seriously though, has anybody here heard of this guy before? If I am wrong then I am sorry but this does not sound realistic to me.

Donny · 05-03-2002, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM

I believe that is called your "imagination".

You may believe what you wish. Quickbooks shows we've brought in $131,700 so far this year. Divide that by 4 months and you have an average monthly income of $32,925. So I guess when I said $30k to $50k per month I was a little high with the latter. That's why I just checked Quickbooks. So, as I said... something is working right. This numbers are 100% accurate. I'd bet my life on it.

Donny · 05-03-2002, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
I am not trying to bring a brother down but if you have been shooting exclusive for 5 years and you gross 30 to 50 grand a month then why have I never heard of you? I personally know some of the larger content providers and I can tell you that most of them do not gross that much in exclusive sales in a month.

Feel free to prove me wrong. Post or send me a list of your clients.

Seriously though, has anybody here heard of this guy before? If I am wrong then I am sorry but this does not sound realistic to me.

One place you can check is Amateur and Teen Kingdom. They credit all their photographers. You'll see thousands and thousands of photos labelled "Credit: Donovan Phillips".

AaronM · 05-03-2002, 11:40 AM

ATK is a good client to have. Congrats.

AaronM · 05-03-2002, 11:45 AM

I still want a list of your clients though.

Donny · 05-03-2002, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
I still want a list of your clients though.

I'm sure you do. LOL. I want a list of yours too.

AaronM · 05-03-2002, 11:48 AM

I have none. hehehe

Hypo · 05-03-2002, 11:49 AM

30K a month shooting nekked girls !! *Faints*

AaronM · 05-03-2002, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hypo
30K a month shooting nekked girls !! *Faints*

Key word here is Gross.

Notice he also said "we" this means he has additional overhead plus he has to pay the models out of that.

I wish this biz was all profit. I could have retired by now if it were.

4Pics · 05-03-2002, 12:04 PM

I seriously doubt you are making this kind of money right now. Maybe in the past you did.

If you meant 3k and 12k but miss placed a 0 then it might be about right.

Donny · 05-03-2002, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM

Key word here is Gross.

Notice he also said "we" this means he has additional overhead plus he has to pay the models out of that.

I wish this biz was all profit. I could have retired by now if it were.

"WE" means my girlfriend and I, along with a 66 year old retired friend who keeps the books and who chastised me greatly for spending $16,000 last month on personal purchases such as scuba equipment and various other toys.

I actually got quoted in the testimonials section of the latest YNot Newsletter. I felt honored. Look in the bottom right corner of the Newsletter. Click Here.

Anyway... I came her to ask opinions on advertising. I spent $1,200 on Worldsex advertising last month plus $400+ on additional bandwidth from the resulting traffic and didn't get much return on my money so I wanted to get opinions on good places to advertise.

AaronM · 05-03-2002, 12:37 PM

Yep, I saw that in your initial post to this thread. I wish I had a vaild suggestion to offer you.

Well, I am off to go shoot a new girlie for one of my non-existant clients. Take care.

Donny · 05-03-2002, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 4Pics
I seriously doubt you are making this kind of money right now. Maybe in the past you did.

If you meant 3k and 12k but miss placed a 0 then it might be about right.

There were no misplaced numbers. If those numbers are so hard to believe I guess I'm asking the wrong people for advice, right? I thought we were on the low end of income for the industry. Hmmmm....

Honeyslut · 05-03-2002, 04:40 PM

I have been to Donvan's site last year !

Hey Donovan !

I just emailed you !

look no spam !

Mike D · 05-03-2002, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips

That's simply because I figure serious webmasters will email me for pricing.

You figured WRONG

and every image goes to a sign up page ???
Where do you view the samples of the full set`s ? Or did you figure that the SERIOUS webmasters would be able to guess what the full sets look like

GOOD luck bro,I have a feeling you will need it

Mike..............

UnseenWorld · 05-03-2002, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips

"WE" means my girlfriend and I, along with a 66 year old retired friend who keeps the books and who chastised me greatly for spending $16,000 last month on personal purchases such as scuba equipment and various other toys.

I actually got quoted in the testimonials section of the latest YNot Newsletter. I felt honored. Look in the bottom right corner of the Newsletter. Click Here.

Anyway... I came her to ask opinions on advertising. I spent $1,200 on Worldsex advertising last month plus $400+ on additional bandwidth from the resulting traffic and didn't get much return on my money so I wanted to get opinions on good places to advertise.

Oh, God, here we go with the potlatch.

Donny · 05-04-2002, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mike
You figured WRONG
and every image goes to a sign up page ???
Where do you view the samples of the full set`s ? Or did you figure that the SERIOUS webmasters would be able to guess what the full sets look like
GOOD luck bro,I have a feeling you will need it

Mike..............

Okay Mike. Maybe I was wrong in assuming people could figure it out. For those who can't I guess I'll have to explain. Those who buy from me have passwords. They preview the girls and tell me who they are interested in. Then I call that girl in and do a photo shoot of her specifically for the webmaster. I'm not selling photos that already exist... I take orders and create new photos. I've been doing this for quite some time now and am having plenty of success. But I always want more.

Did I explain myself well enough this time?

Donny · 05-04-2002, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by UnseenWorld

Oh, God, here we go with the potlatch.

I had to look that one up. Dictionary.com comes in handy.

05-02-2002, 10:49 PM	#1
Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	Question from a Content Provider/Webmaster Hello everyone! I've been shooting exclusive content for a little over 5 years now but only recently have I begun actively pursuing new clients. In the past I worked exclusively for 3 different websites. I am now looking to find new buyers for which to shoot exclusive content. There are so many places to advertise so I wanted to ask those of you who pay for advertising: 1. Which sites/publications work best for you? On a seperate topic: I also started a pay site. Girls who pose for me are set up as CCBill referring partners so that they share the revenue (when someone clicks there link and joins the money is split with the referring girl). I paid for advertising on Worldsex.com only to learn the hardway that their traffic doesn't convert well at all. So here's question numbers 2 and 3: 2. From your experience, which paid advertising sites convert best? 3. Where have you found the most success advertising for webmasters to join your affiliate program? Thanks so much to those of you who take the time to answer (and to those of you who simply tell me to "go fuck myself ) Last edited by DonovanPhillips; 05-02-2002 at 11:14 PM..

05-03-2002, 12:04 PM	#21
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	I seriously doubt you are making this kind of money right now. Maybe in the past you did. If you meant 3k and 12k but miss placed a 0 then it might be about right. Last edited by 4Pics; 05-03-2002 at 12:13 PM..

05-02-2002, 11:28 PM	#2
Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	No opinions? Or simply not controversial enough (like the black power tshirt thread) to discuss?

05-02-2002, 11:51 PM	#3
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	You are new to the board, you are posting in the "Fucking Around" area, and your post includes a lightly battered spam... Do not expect a lot of serious answers. I would offer suggestions if I had any but since I do not run any paysites..... Good Luck

05-02-2002, 11:59 PM	#4
dipshit moron retard Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 667	i couldn't find prices on your website, i hate that!

05-03-2002, 12:21 AM	#5
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	Nothing wrong with free content.

05-03-2002, 01:50 AM	#6
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	MORE FEMALE MODELS AGES 18-70: Where's the 70 year old?

05-03-2002, 11:02 AM	#9
reddawg Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Paradise Posts: 1,837	If you think serious webmasters are going to email you for prices, well then, you do not have to go fuck yourself, you already did.

05-03-2002, 11:31 AM	#12
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	I am not trying to bring a brother down but if you have been shooting exclusive for 5 years and you gross 30 to 50 grand a month then why have I never heard of you? I personally know some of the larger content providers and I can tell you that most of them do not gross that much in exclusive sales in a month. Feel free to prove me wrong. Post or send me a list of your clients. Seriously though, has anybody here heard of this guy before? If I am wrong then I am sorry but this does not sound realistic to me.

05-03-2002, 11:40 AM	#15
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	ATK is a good client to have. Congrats.

05-03-2002, 11:45 AM	#16
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	I still want a list of your clients though.

05-03-2002, 11:48 AM	#18
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	I have none. hehehe

05-03-2002, 11:49 AM	#19
Hypo So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,104	30K a month shooting nekked girls !! Faints

05-03-2002, 12:37 PM	#23
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	Yep, I saw that in your initial post to this thread. I wish I had a vaild suggestion to offer you. Well, I am off to go shoot a new girlie for one of my non-existant clients. Take care.

05-03-2002, 04:40 PM	#25
Honeyslut Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Ass Valley, Ca Posts: 6,436	I have been to Donvan's site last year ! Hey Donovan ! I just emailed you ! look no spam !