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Old 05-02-2002, 02:02 PM   #1
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Haha... the stuff I have to put up with

Some people are so stupid it gets funny. Here's another. Maxwell Productions, run several sites, including one that caught my attention: thehunyellowpagetgp.com. Obviously this name infringes on a trademark, so I write the fellow about this:

Please stop serving the domain thehunyellowpagetgp.com for it?s infringing on a registered trademark. I am the owner of The Hun?s Yellow Pages at www.thehun.net

I get the following reply:

How so.
hey would you like to buy the name.?


Haha... Ok, you have to give the guy credit for his resourcefull ways to raise money. Anyway, my reply:

No, I?d like it to be closed down. I own a trademark for that name. This e-mail is to give you a chance to close it before I start legal action...

Now it gets better. Here's his reply:

or what name thehun... the name of the site is not thehun the name of the site is thehunyellowpagetgp do you also have a trademark for that name as wee or do you think the ANY word containing the letters thehun is owned by you.

And then another e-mail straight after that:

how about thehungreychildrenoftheworld.com go away or purchase the domain. im asking a reasonable price.

And this guy is trying to do business in the Adult Internet World (http://www.pornwebhost.com,http://stealth.wcivr.com)... This guy has 24 hours. I'll then send my attorney after him. He's from the US, phonenumber, address, everything is on file here. Funny this guy does not realise the hight of the penalties for a trademark violation. He suggested I'd pay him instead of spending more money on an attorney. Since this case is chrystal clear I don't really mind putting up the money, I know I'll get it back at his expense anyway. What a guy. Fun to see there's still people around that are this stupid. Pity I have to waste time on people like these though. Maybe I should set a presedence with this guy. Legal action will get him in a lot of problems. I think that's a very severe punishment for stupidity. But some people just won't listen...
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Old 05-02-2002, 02:05 PM   #2
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Haha.. I'm gonna go register "thehunisgonnafuckyourrightupifyoumesswithhistrade marks.com"
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Old 05-02-2002, 02:09 PM   #3
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Fuck him up good!

Set an example for other people who might think of pulling shit like that.
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there's nothing on that page. did he just remove all the links?
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Old 05-02-2002, 02:09 PM   #5
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mate, this should keep you busy for the next 2 years ... all the best !!

http://www.netcraft.com/?restriction...tion=li mited

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For what it's worth Hun you should stick it to him as a matter of principal.

Maxwell is running a TOTAL scam. He's one of the guys that sells newbies bogus complete paysites, etc. I worked with a client 1 year ago that was this really nice lady who was basically screwed by them... and when she wanted to stop paying him monthly fees for his 'turnkey' he played games with giving us the Netsol access on her domain. bastard! I talked to him on the phone and he was a dirty motherfucker who was swearing and yelling at me, I think he even called me a fucking faggot or something like that.

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Old 05-02-2002, 02:18 PM   #7
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thehunyellowpagetgp.com so way can't he own this domain? You have a trademark for thehun.com hmmm don't get it.
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Old 05-02-2002, 02:20 PM   #8
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Maybe the Hun needs to have a page of people who attempted to register similar names and gave them up upon obtaining legal advise since it was a trademark violation. Might help as a reference for others trying to scam off the hard work of an established well know trademarked site.
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Old 05-02-2002, 02:21 PM   #9
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I like how the have button links to their fake Hun TGP and a rip off of Pic Post, too

http://www.sinsoplenty.com/

scroll to bottom of page

maybe Andre will add that img src code, too LOL
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thehunyellowpagetgp.com so way can't he own this domain? You have a trademark for thehun.com hmmm don't get it.
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hmmm maybe he could have a webmaster program for referring sites that are infringing his trademark. Maybe get a good gallery listing or something for helping expose the dumbass idiots of the world, just a thought....
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Old 05-02-2002, 02:32 PM   #13
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thehunyellowpagetgp.com so way can't he own this domain? You have a trademark for thehun.com hmmm don't get it.
*sigh*

Go open Wal-Mart Sex Store and see what happens.
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hmmm maybe he could have a webmaster program for referring sites that are infringing his trademark. Maybe get a good gallery listing or something for helping expose the dumbass idiots of the world, just a thought....

Hell if he did that I'd register a domain and expose it just for the gallery spot!
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It's not thehun.com that's trademarked. It's The Hun.

Anyone trying to use The Hun in a porn site context is infringing on the trademark. thehun.org, thehunyellowpagetgp.com, thehunbigpornsite.com, etc are all screwed if they put up porn sites.
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Does anybody else find it comical that a lot people don't know how a trademark works?

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Does anybody else find it comical that a lot people don't know how a trademark works?

Most 18 year olds don't
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Haha now this is a good one www.1thehun-worldsex.com blah nothing on that one. But here's one http://www.ampland-tommys-bookmarks-...dult-links.com And yes thats actualy some retard having a adult site there

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what if i change my first name to: The and last name to Hun
would i be able to open thehun.org ?
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I know them. I started the first turnkey adult website service AGES ago. Well, Maxwell RIPPED off my business page by page, word by word hahahah

Same stupid words, same inexperienced attitude. All these years and they are still a nobody who rips off people.

Funny, in like a decade, their pages have not changed. Hmm.

Well, I hope you nail them

God damn, I can not believe they are still in this day and age selling decade old crap. Just like Don Lupree pimping 900 numbers on TNT late nights.

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what if i change my first name to: The and last name to Hun
would i be able to open thehun.org ?
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I used to get high and watch that informercial....that dude trips me out..."just a little ad in the newspaper."

Another fun person to watch high is Robert Tilton...that dude just looks plain freaky.
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When can the owner of a trademark stop others from using it?
Whether the owner of a trademark can stop others from using it depends on such factors as:


whether the trademark is being used on competing goods or services (goods or services compete if the sale of one is likely to affect the sale of the other)


whether consumers would likely be confused by the dual use of the trademark, and


whether the trademark is being used in the same part of the country or is being used on related goods (goods that will likely be noticed by the same customers, even if they don't compete with each other).

In addition, under federal and state laws known as "anti-dilution statutes," a trademark owner may go to court to prevent its mark from being used by someone else if the mark is famous and the later use would dilute the mark's strength -- that is, weaken its reputation for quality (called tarnishment) or render it common through overuse in different contexts.

Anti-dilution statutes can apply even if there is no way customers would be likely to confuse the source of the goods or services designated by the later mark with the famous mark's owner. For instance, consumers would not think that Microsoft Bakery is associated with Microsoft, the software company, but Microsoft bakery could still be forced to choose another name under federal and state anti-dilution laws.

There is no good definition of what makes a mark famous. This means that to avoid dilution claims, it is necessary to stay away from all existing marks that have widespread and significant consumer recognition.

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I like the one with the twin dwarves.
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which one is the wacky lookin guy with the riddler lookin jacket on?
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"how about thehungreychildrenoftheworld.com go away or purchase the domain"


hahah that guys funny
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Most 18 year olds don't
I guess I'm more intelligent than most 18 year olds then?
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That's Matt Lesko. He sells books about Gub'mint handouts. He even has an affiliate program. Serious
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I guess I'm more intelligent than most 18 year olds then?
Maybe...what's 2 + 3? j/k

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I find it funny that as opposed to us - who follow threads we start and reply to people reaction, TheHun just starts a trade and let us wallow in it alone

(hope he dont reply to this one to prove me stupid. LOL)
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If someone is porporting to be the hun with their content i can understand using lawyers and whatnot but it seems llike people are progressively leaning towards opening up bigger cans of worms with domains infringing on trademarks and whatnot. I mean where does it end, you start suing people for registering 'thehunsucks' and 'theehun' etc? Like most classic dilemmas of this nature its too eazy for the line between whats arbitrarily acceptable or not to become blurred and eventually you have a bunch of webmasters squabbling amongst themselves over something that doesn't really effect their bottom line anyway in an industry that already has enough problems.

I find it weird too that whenever the guy from the thehun posts he never responds to anything else on the thread


maybe he'll be my USA wife?
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thehunyellowpagetgp.com so way can't he own this domain? You have a trademark for thehun.com hmmm don't get it.
Yeah, and everyone should be able to release their own soft drinks such as "Coca Cola 2"

The hun yellow page tgp is an OBVIOUS use of "the hun"
Which, as we konw, is a registered trade mark. Trademark doesn't cover only the exact words, it covers fairly (read: fair) broad varation. And this is definetley infringement.
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If someone is porporting to be the hun with their content i can understand using lawyers and whatnot but it seems llike people are progressively leaning towards opening up bigger cans of worms with domains infringing on trademarks and whatnot. I mean where does it end, you start suing people for registering 'thehunsucks' and 'theehun' etc? Like most classic dilemmas of this nature its too eazy for the line between whats arbitrarily acceptable or not to become blurred and eventually you have a bunch of webmasters squabbling amongst themselves over something that doesn't really effect their bottom line anyway in an industry that already has enough problems.

I find it weird too that whenever the guy from the thehun posts he never responds to anything else on the thread


maybe he'll be my USA wife?
Dude, i don't think what the hun is doing is wrong at all. Did you hear about the guy in the UK that got sued for owning a domain with "jaguar" in it. As in the motor car.. owned by Ford..

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Or you can ask the guy in England who published Jaguarcenter.com (an animal preservation Website). Or Jaguarenthusiastsclub.com (Also animals, also England.) They got sued, too. Ford didn't sue in England or Sweden. They sued all these people in Detroit, Michigan.
The sites were about the fucking animal.. and they STILL got sued. THAT to me, is complete bullshit.
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thehunyellowpagetgp.com so way can't he own this domain? You have a trademark for thehun.com hmmm don't get it.

i have some questions about it, but i think its close enough for the courts to award in the hun's favor

the hun: i would maybe send him this url. maybe he will clue in that this could cost him some cash.
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chodadog that's EXACTLY what i'm saying, it begins with something seemingly legitimate but then once you set a precident where does it end?

eventually you have thehun suing someone for using 'thehun.us' or whatever, "TheHun" is a pretty common nicknick in chatrooms, game servers, etc, so now you have to start speculating and assuming this person 'stole' the concept of using the name 'thehun' for the internet domain name from you and pay your lawyers etc etc for something that isn't affecting you or your business in any tangible way in the first place.

if youre not using content from the 'trademarked' site, it seems questionable whether it should really be an issue or not. In this case the person IS using the content, so being proactive can be understandable, but going on witch hunts for 'thehunt' dirivitives is pushing it. especially when it appears inspired by an overanxious desire to appease thehun anyway.
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Better yet, let's just blacklist the fucker from the whole industry.

Owning a domain is one thing, USING it will get you in DEEP SHIT.
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thehun.us would be trademark violation. If you were to register cocacola.us, you can bet your ass coke would sue you.

It's normally fairly easy to tell. If someone had a website called thehuncars.com and it was for a used cars lot in nottingham, england. I dare say, that wouldn't be trademark violation. Or at least, i don't think it should be. Could one of the legal eagles here correct me if i'm wrong

But this domain he's talking about. It's just.. completely obvious.
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I actually remember looking up at one point in time, the hun, and a few others when this argument happened with that other fucker who decided he didnt want a new domain from the hun.

I believe the hun has complete rights to THE HUN over the net, in advertising and marketing, and a few other things.

If I recall, he doesn't have complete trademark rights to the name in relation to non-advertising and marketing.

If thats right, couldn't anyone open up thehunismybestfriend.com as long as it was a site not involving The Hun, as we know him in this industry?

Any actual legal gurus around? But... Im pretty sure I got the jist out of it.
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TheHun,

I get to deal with this baloney all the time so I know where you're coming from.

Is the trademark registration you're referring to a US trademark or is there some international trademark registrar I'm unaware of. The only completed registration for "The Hun" that I find in the US Database is registered by someone named Eric Rosidivito in Wyoming. I see several applied for trademarks that are done with you as the owner, but that is the only registered one. Is that guy your agent in the US or is trademark registration 2354474 someone else?

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Old 05-02-2002, 07:51 PM   #44
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can somebody testify on how rich and sweet the hun's asscrack must be? I swear, some of y'all have your napkin tucked in your shirt ready to have a big plate of ASS!!

Gotdamn, just set up a tent and a campfire up on his ballsac while you're at it.
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can somebody testify on how rich and sweet the hun's asscrack must be? I swear, some of y'all have your napkin tucked in your shirt ready to have a big plate of ASS!!

Gotdamn, just set up a tent and a campfire up on his ballsac while you're at it.
I hear his new car has seats that make any ass smell sweet........
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can somebody testify on how rich and sweet the hun's asscrack must be? I swear, some of y'all have your napkin tucked in your shirt ready to have a big plate of ASS!!

Gotdamn, just set up a tent and a campfire up on his ballsac while you're at it.
You non-conformist rebel, you.
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chodadog, the problem is though, whether you win or lose the lawsuit is entirely irrelevant, when you're suing someone who is small time the legal fees are punishment enough, and they're probably just going to give up and give you what you want because you control the money, so you control the lawyers, so you may as well control the legal system at that point because you decide how many court cases and legal fees there will be regardless of their outcomes. These are the pressure tactics used by huge corporations and other nefarious organizations like scientology to silence things they don't appreciate everyday. I'm not saying THIS guy doesn't deserve it, afterall he is stealing the content, i'm just saying i think this is an area deserving of extreme caution.
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Have you seen the design on:http://stealth.wcivr.com...?

It's fucking Ugly!! Too ugly man!
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But here's one http://www.ampland-tommys-bookmarks-...dult-links.com And yes thats actualy some retard having a adult site there

ahahahahaha

that's the best one! Its like he made a bet to see how long it would take for someone to take him to court...
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