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Old 03-16-2006, 05:23 AM   #1
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**update** Arabsex.com is a FRAUD The funniest email i ever read

I finally recieved an email from the crook scumbag andy woods, aka mohit behl aka rockstar ventures. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY HILLARIOUS


Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:43:26 +1100
From: "Customer Support" <[email protected]> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Re: Billing Customer Support


I told you earlier we dont do checks as they are a pain in the ass for
us. We are not based in the US.
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HIS AFFILIATE WEBSITE CLEARLY STATES IT PAYS OUT BY CHECK,EPASSPORTE,PAYPAL, AND WIRE
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In my email dated Feb 05 we offered to open an epassporte account for
you and send you the money instantly. If our intention was to steal
your
money, I would not have offered you that option.
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UHM, IF YOUR FUCKING WEBSITE STATES YOU PAYOUT IN 4 WAYS, WHAT THE FUCK DO I WANT TO OPEN A EPASSPORTE ACCOUNT FOR? FUCK EPASSPORTE. GO PUSH EPASSPORTE ON SOMEONE ELSE!
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Now you say the check is torn. There is not much we can do about this.
If you dont believe its bank of america who sent the check, please go
into any branch and show them the check. Maybe they can help you
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ANDY WOODS AKA MOHIT BEHL AKA ARABSEX.COM EXPECTS ME TO WALK INTO A BANK OF AMERICA WITH A TORN, STAINED CANCELLED CHECK AND ASK THEM FOR HELP? LMFAO. THEY WILL HELP ME ALRIGHT! THE WILL HELP ESCORT ME OUT THE FUCKIN BANK! this douchebag sends me a check, ripped down the center, stained with mcdonolds grease and he thinks a bank will accept this check in that condition that looks like its printed with home software and a lexmark printer. The FUNDS came from the Bank Of America, The check came from his apartment .
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We dont want you as an affiliate anymore. Your sales are not high
enough
to justify the amount of time we have to spend on you. I am not
disabling your account, but please send us no more traffic.
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MY SALES ARENT HIGH ENOUGH? LMFAO. SINCE MY SALES ARENT " HIGH ENOUGH" WHY ISNT HE DISABLING THE AFFILIATE ACCOUNT? I'LL TELL YOU WHY, BECAUSE HE WANTS TO KEEP ALL THE RECURRING MEMBERSHIPS AT 29.99 A POP....BUT THEN AGAIN, MY SALES ARENT HIGH ENOUGH
you spend too much time on me? wow!!! 4 emails, 4 words, within a span of 5 months is too much time spent on me? holy shit! excuse me for not being worth anything to you!
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We will pay you what you are owed after that last payment we sent. We
can wire it to you for a $10 fee, or send it via epassporte/paypal for
free. Its your choice.
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YOU WILL PAY ME WHAT IM OWED AFTER THE LAST PAYMENT?
LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT, HAVEING A FUCKED UP CANCELLED CHECK IN YOUR POSSESION CONSTITUTES AS A PAYMENT?
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Also, I realize that we sent you 150 USD by mistake when it should have
been 150 euros equivalent. I am adding $20 to your next payout to make
up for that.
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150 EUROS IS ROUGHLY 180 USD. AND ACCORDING TO THE PEOPLE SENDING ME COMMENTS AND EMAILS, YOU SEEM TO MAKE THAT MISTAKE VERY OFTEN
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If you think we are some kind of scam/fraud - please go ahead and
complain to whoever you feel like (federal department within the united
states crime banking fraud division ???? - no such thing).
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Hey buddy, i dont give a fuck if you live with santa in the north pole! YOUR websites are registered in the united states of america. Your doing business internationally.Their are federal banking laws within the u.s. that you fall under. To accept peoples personal data, ie: name address ss# bank account numbers..need i say more?
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Please simply let me know how you want the rest of the funds.

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THE REST OF THE FUNDS? YOU HAVE BALLS YOU DIRTY SCUMBAG.
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Regarding the "torn" check - take it up with Bank of America.

Andy

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Do you see how this scumbag operates? He thinks hes immune because he lives in the nederlands.

In all my time promoting for this douchebag from arabsex.com, I emailed him maybe 3 times. And those emails were about custom links.( which he quickly responded - sometimes within 5 minutes!)

Before this check incident, i emailed this crook to ask why i havent recieved payment thus far, he stated " oh we emailed you to see how you want the funds sent" . I NEVER RECIEVED THIS EMAIL.

He was notified to send a check, he stated they rather not do checks, but he will entertain me and send one out, but for future reference, to set up an
epassporte account because thats my only option to recieve funds.
Then he states they can wire to a bank account, so i update and send my banking info for him to send by wire.

Then i recieve a check, this fuckin check is hillarious.
Some greasy fingered scumbag stuffing it in the envelope , check gets ripped, full of oil that smudged the ink on the check.

I email him and tell him of the situation -Feb.21 2006 ( email # 5 out of a 5 month time span)

He states, give me a day, ill cancel the check, send out a new one.
so i wait...and wait...and wait...and wait....NO RESPONSE.

I make a call to the processing company printed on the check Just for the hell of it( march 01,2006), the gentleman i spoke with says the check hasnt been cancelled, he also states that they are just a processing company and all they can do is email the person who drafted it. So i tell him this whole shit appears to be a scam, and that i might investigate this matter further and see where it leads, he quickly tells me he will cancel the check and will reissue me out another 1 the same day. So i ask myself, how does he have the authority to cancel and reissue a check if all they do is just process the checks?...I wait....

March 14 2006, i call them back, girl on the phone says " sorry sir, that check was cancelled and funds were credited back to the payers account.

SEE HOW THEY FUCK PEOPLE?

So i ask to speak to the head hahahahahaha in charge, I get a "stupidvisor" on the line.

She says " sir, we just process payments, all we can do is send an email.
I tell her to go fuck herself, and that i have the entire convo recorded, as well as the initial convo being recorded. Since they monitor /record calls for " training purposes, i do the same

And i hang up.

Then i get this email ( above) from the crook himself.

1. this guy in my opinion is a real douchebag and a shady person to affiliate with.
Others may say" well he pays me "...sure, he pays people who he feels can fuck him back, but the little fish like me, he fucks over.

Paying someone or sending an email is " too much time to spend on a person" that makes you money?

The check he sent out, cancelled, ripped, full of pig grease constitutes as payment?

shaved payouts are just an innocent mistakes?

what do you think?
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Old 03-16-2006, 05:28 AM   #2
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Cliff's notes are in order for this one I think...
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I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha
fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before
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Old 03-16-2006, 05:40 AM   #3
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Too much drama. The only reason I'm not calling you a dipshit is cause I'm too new and I might not know the substory behind this one.
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Old 03-16-2006, 06:27 AM   #4
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The check he sent out, cancelled, ripped, full of pig grease constitutes as payment?

shaved payouts are just an innocent mistakes?

what do you think?
I think there's no way it's pig grease!
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Old 03-16-2006, 07:50 AM   #5
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Old 03-16-2006, 08:05 AM   #6
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Old 03-16-2006, 08:32 AM   #7
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Old 03-16-2006, 12:00 PM   #8
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Hahahahaha is this guy on crack? wtf is the bank going to do other than tell him/her to contact the person who sent it !durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

thats really foul.

theres always 2 sides 2 a story, but for this website owner to tell this affiliate " Regarding the "torn" check - take it up with Bank of America." is not only un professional, but also moronic. I have an account with the bank of america and i mustsay they are pretty cool people.lets just say the check isnt defaced,hows the bank going to accept it if the check is cancelled? "heres 5 bucks kid go away" mentality shows what type of business person this guy is. And reading the other guys post shows he knows him or atleast he knows of him and also shows that there are more others like him on this board.
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Old 03-16-2006, 12:48 PM   #9
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It just doesn't sound as bad as you make it out to be. You cry "fraud" but whoopie if they didn't remove that they pay by cheque yet. Plus, it sounds like they made a special attempt to pay you by cheque so it's conceivable that they cut it while sitting at their desk while eating some chips. They are wanting to clear your account up and didn't close it and keep your money. So while they may be a pain, you sound like a crybaby. I am still going to send them lots of sales every month but do appreciate your concerns.
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It just doesn't sound as bad as you make it out to be. You cry "fraud" but whoopie if they didn't remove that they pay by cheque yet. Plus, it sounds like they made a special attempt to pay you by cheque so it's conceivable that they cut it while sitting at their desk while eating some chips. They are wanting to clear your account up and didn't close it and keep your money. So while they may be a pain, you sound like a crybaby. I am still going to send them lots of sales every month but do appreciate your concerns.

When someone defrauds someone, it is a big deal.

It is a big deal that they did not remove the payment by check option from their website .

Dont offer services if you dont want to provide that service.

Dont try to con people into signing up for another payment option so that you can make a few more extra bucks.
Have some integrity.

If i want a pack of newports and the sign says u sell newports, dont try and sell me salems. Tell me you dont have newports from the start.

what if my main reason for signing up was that I PREFER TO BE PAID BY CHECK?

NO THEY DID NOT MAKE A SPECIAL ATTEMPT TO PAY ME BY CHECK.
the website states they pay out by check, dont sugar coat their actions.

All this happened because he wanted to make a few bucks on hooking another epassporte client.

They are wanting to clear up my ACCOUNT AND THEY DIDNT CLOSE IT? How would you know? was it your fat ass stuffing your face while you were doing payroll?

Theres nothing to clear up.
Look at how much im owed, and wire out the funds.
Takes 2 minutes.

They may be a pain?
lmao

Ill tell you what.
Let me owe you some cash, then ill send u a check thats all fucked up that you cant even cash or deposit it.

Then later ill cancel the check

Then ill tell you , hey sorry, go take your fucked up check cancelled check i sent you to the bank.

You have to be a moron.

Anyone with an ounce of intelligence who read that email i posted, know its a con.

Im glad you have no issues with him, bravo for you.
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Old 03-16-2006, 03:12 PM   #11
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if your really refering to the same "Mohit Behl" thats been scamming in one way or another for over 5 years now i wouldn't hold your breath about ever getting anything out of him... he has a history w/ me of signing up at my paysites, downloading frantically and then charging back or demanding a refund. usually w/in two weeks the stolen content would show up on one of his pissant hack-job websites as his own to sell.

if he actually has an affiliate program at this point i would stay *far far away*... long-time scammer and known crook. i have been blocking his varaious creditcard numbers and IP's for years..
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When someone defrauds someone, it is a big deal.

It is a big deal that they did not remove the payment by check option from their website .

Dont offer services if you dont want to provide that service.

Dont try to con people into signing up for another payment option so that you can make a few more extra bucks.
Have some integrity.

If i want a pack of newports and the sign says u sell newports, dont try and sell me salems. Tell me you dont have newports from the start.

what if my main reason for signing up was that I PREFER TO BE PAID BY CHECK?

NO THEY DID NOT MAKE A SPECIAL ATTEMPT TO PAY ME BY CHECK.
the website states they pay out by check, dont sugar coat their actions.

All this happened because he wanted to make a few bucks on hooking another epassporte client.

They are wanting to clear up my ACCOUNT AND THEY DIDNT CLOSE IT? How would you know? was it your fat ass stuffing your face while you were doing payroll?

Theres nothing to clear up.
Look at how much im owed, and wire out the funds.
Takes 2 minutes.

They may be a pain?
lmao

Ill tell you what.
Let me owe you some cash, then ill send u a check thats all fucked up that you cant even cash or deposit it.

Then later ill cancel the check

Then ill tell you , hey sorry, go take your fucked up check cancelled check i sent you to the bank.

You have to be a moron.

Anyone with an ounce of intelligence who read that email i posted, know its a con.

Im glad you have no issues with him, bravo for you.

You are going to blow an O ring if you don't chill out. You are the one who said above that they want to clear up your account and won't close it, but also asked for you to not send any more traffic because to them you are a pain in the ass. I am pretty sure they have to pay to upload and send money to you by ePassporte and don't benefit financially in any way from you opening an account.

If you cry fraud because they didn't yet remove from their site that they pay by cheque (and probably went out of their way to shut you up by sending you a cheque special because of your whining) and prefer epassporte, than you obviously are not rational and way too sensitive, as that is so low on the infractions list of what a sponsor can mess up on.
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Old 03-16-2006, 03:16 PM   #13
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if your really refering to the same "Mohit Behl" thats been scamming in one way or another for over 5 years now i wouldn't hold your breath about ever getting anything out of him... he has a history w/ me of signing up at my paysites, downloading frantically and then charging back or demanding a refund. usually w/in two weeks the stolen content would show up on one of his pissant hack-job websites as his own to sell.

if he actually has an affiliate program at this point i would stay *far far away*... long-time scammer and known crook. i have been blocking his varaious creditcard numbers and IP's for years..
Can anyone confirm this is the same guy...as I would hate to be sending joins to a scammer...? I just need more substance than what this thread starter is coming up with.
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Can anyone confirm this is the same guy...as I would hate to be sending joins to a scammer...? I just need more substance than what this thread starter is coming up with.
in all fairness i've never heard of the 'Andy Woods' monicker... but Mohit Behl has been on my shitlist for many years now, thats the actual name on the creditcards he'd use to sign up to my sites that would turn into chargebacks or refund requests. never heard of Arabsex.com either, he was always stealing my indian girl content in the past and putting it up on his low-grade ripoff sites..
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in all fairness i've never heard of the 'Andy Woods' monicker... but Mohit Behl has been on my shitlist for many years now, thats the actual name on the creditcards he'd use to sign up to my sites that would turn into chargebacks or refund requests. never heard of Arabsex.com either, he was always stealing my indian girl content in the past and putting it up on his low-grade ripoff sites..
Yikes, thanks for the info. That arab site is actually part of their affiliate program called "Indian Loot" so I am starting to feel sick to my stomach as I am sending them a bunch of traffic...and this is starting to all smell bad.
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in all fairness i've never heard of the 'Andy Woods' monicker... but Mohit Behl has been on my shitlist for many years now, thats the actual name on the creditcards he'd use to sign up to my sites that would turn into chargebacks or refund requests. never heard of Arabsex.com either, he was always stealing my indian girl content in the past and putting it up on his low-grade ripoff sites..

Its the same person or one of his associates

Indianloot.com ( offers indian content)
pornguru.com ( indian content)
arabsex.com ( french women dressed as arabs /indian content passed off as arabs)
arabnude.com ( duplicate site of arabsex.com )
mohit.net ( he disabled this site )
subscriptioncs.com ( this is whats stamped on his checks)

MAjority of his sites either contain indian content, or indian content passed off to make people think its arab content.



They are all registered to Andy Woods and Mohit Behl
All registrations have the same address listed
Rockstar Ventures
Andy Woods
370 Altair Way, # 367
Sunnyvale
ca
28105
US


Its the same scumbag bastard
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Its the same person or one of his associates

Indianloot.com ( offers indian content)
pornguru.com ( indian content)
arabsex.com ( french women dressed as arabs /indian content passed off as arabs)
arabnude.com ( duplicate site of arabsex.com )
mohit.net ( he disabled this site )
subscriptioncs.com ( this is whats stamped on his checks)

MAjority of his sites either contain indian content, or indian content passed off to make people think its arab content.



They are all registered to Andy Woods and Mohit Behl
All registrations have the same address listed
Rockstar Ventures
Andy Woods
370 Altair Way, # 367
Sunnyvale
ca
28105
US


Its the same scumbag bastard
haha, my friend... you have *no* idea how happy you have just made me w/ that address. after all these years its time for some just desserts..
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... so it's conceivable that they cut it while sitting at their desk while eating some chips....
Yep the sort of professionalism we like to see - fat slob at desk dribbling burger and chip grease over checks to be sent out thereby creating an unforgetable impression to the recipients. If that was what happened (which I doubt) then he deserves to be batted round the head for that alone and am staggered you think thats an acceptable defence
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from an outsiders point of view i will tell you my opinion..

It seems you flipped the lid a little early. You did have a right to be mad , but im really suprised at this guys patience. I would have told you to fuck off long ago ( but then again i dont run an affiliate program as that prob wouldnt be the wisest thing to say to an affiliate who is making me money heh )

Lets just say you seemed to get mad and make accusations before the guy had a chance to rectify the situation.. BUT there are guys who just do this kind of thing over and over again.. thats there M.O. judging by the other comments in this thread the latter may be more accurate ;)

Anyways , i hope you haven't spent to much traffic with the guy. hopefully some new sponsors will chime in this thread and offer you better service..
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whoops i think i misunderstood the comments you originally posted , the caps wasnt what you actually said just your observation right ?..
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whoops i think i misunderstood the comments you originally posted , the caps wasnt what you actually said just your observation right ?..

caps were my own thoughts
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Granted I only read a few paragraphs of this (which was too many), I did notice that you said it looks like he printed teh check from his apartment. Who cares if he did, a lot of businesses print their own checks. Hell, you can go to Office Depot right now and choose from a number of programs that'll do this for you. As long as the check has the proper account numbers, routing numbers, etc. on it then it isn't a problem.
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why you ask? wanna take me out for dinner..then breakfast in the morning?
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Yep the sort of professionalism we like to see - fat slob at desk dribbling burger and chip grease over checks to be sent out thereby creating an unforgetable impression to the recipients. If that was what happened (which I doubt) then he deserves to be batted round the head for that alone and am staggered you think thats an acceptable defence
I am not defending them or an apologist for their behaviour but was trying to make the point that possibly they do not send out cheques any longer but made a special exemption for this guy complaining and thus it didn't have the appearance of a normal business cheque... Spare me with that "staggered" accusation and your assumption of what I was talking to.
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Old 03-17-2006, 04:45 AM   #29
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UPDATE latest email FROM THE CON ARTIST

Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:52:58 +1100
From: "Customer Support" <[email protected]> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Re: Billing Customer Support


No lets do this right way shall we.
Mail me that torn check. The address is :

Postbus 9
Post Kraainem 1
Koningin Astridlaan 278
1950 Kraainem
Belgium


Once I get it, I will send it to Bank of America. Then they will send
you a new one. Yes it will take a few weeks but lets do this by the
book.

I will however send you next payout via paypal.



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Im sorry but this guy is really garbage in my book.


Lets do this right shall we?

why does he want the check so bad when he knows HE CANCELLED IT?


This guy is a joke. Let this be a lesson to all you people who affiliate for scumbags like this.
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Old 03-17-2006, 05:37 AM   #30
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Old 03-17-2006, 05:47 AM   #31
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This totally reminds me of the time I went into another thread and didn't read it cuz it was too long.

Hope you get it all sorted out, whatever it is.
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