Quotealex

I didn't think I would be making 100%+ profit doing arbitrage with Adsense... truely amazing I must say.

JoeMeca

Wtf are you talking about?

u-Bob

what joe said.

seven

What Bob said.

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Chris

lol iwa s gonna say wtf you talking about aswell but didnt want to look like an idiot for being confussed

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Thumbler

Put up a site with adsense on it, buy adwords for traffic, and generate twice as much revenue from the adsense as you pay for the adwords

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polish_aristocrat

i think he means buying adwords for "mortgage" and then redirecting them to a site with 20 adsense links to "mortgage" and making a profit from it..... ?

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Thumbler

You can't have 20 links

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Thumbler

Well on reflection, you can on a site but not on a page

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Chris

sounds like a way to get your self termed?

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u-Bob

google allows it. (as long as your page with the adsense ads has "real content")

Thumbler

It's actually becoming quite popular at the moment - almost as popular as private label article membership sites!

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Pornwolf

WTF is a private label article membership site?

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lots of people do it. good for you

Quotealex

Yup that's right and there's plenty of profit in this game.

Rex

Actually you could...

5 from a link zone

then 5 link in each text zone if you were running 3 120x600's

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brizzad

Don't forget a search box and a firefox referral button for good measure

Quotealex

That's aboutr it but there's no redirection involved and the page that the traffic is sent doesn't have or need that many links to make some nice coins.

Quotealex

Well, I discovered this technic recently by accident and I didn't I would be making that much profit from. In fact I thought I would be losing money.

Dirty F

What are you pushing?

Dirty F

And what is much profit to you? 10 bucks a day or 500 bucks a day?

NoWhErE

You basically become a middleman inflating the prices... this practice is kinda similar to Circle Jerks but for mainstream.

I say cash in on it while you can before this bubble bursts

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Dirty F

Well, what i wonder about is, lets say you buy 100 clicks, no way those 100 people will all click your adsense. Not even close to those 100. So while working in the same niche you have to buy REAL cheap traffic and sell very high.

Jer

Nice thread.

stfuvt

sounds good

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mmm, sounds good ! you do that?

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GatorB

Ok so people go to google and click on an adword ad and go to your site the click on the SAME ads they ignored on google? This works?

jjjay

here's a couple of such landing pages after searching for Windows XP:

http://msxml.info.com/infocom.uk2/se...ineset=uk-only

http://uk.bizrate.com/buy/superfind_...0,sfsk--0.html

One's using overture links, the other google

JoeMeca

Ya I am using yahoo ads ;)

Dirty F

Well, i understand that but what i wonder is...you buy 100 clicks for peopple searching for "win xp", this costs you 6 cts per click. Then you offer similar links on your page, 8 people of those 100 click it, you get paid 8 cts per click. I dont see the profit part

Dollarmansteve

That's why I only buy adwords traffic from the Search results and not from the 'content' pages... The search clicks are much more profitable for me

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sixone

I know the method of buying CHEAP PPC traffic from lesser know, and lesser used SE's and sending it to content sites with Adsense on it.

But buying AdWords and sending it to an Adsense filled page??? That is just lost upon me. Whoever claims they are doing such a thing and making money off of it is full of shit.

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jjjay

you're right, bizrate and nexttag are two-bit operations that have no idea what they're doing

jjjay

I think it's due to the fact the sites are listing around place 30, so they're paying maybe 10 cents a click? (a guess, I don't know)

And then the landing pages show the top five results where the clicks are probably going for maybe $1, $2 a click or more.

I guess the only way to make it work is with lots and lots of 5 or 10 cent keywords and being around place 30 for most of them

Dirty F

Yeah but its hard to control the adsense ads. Everybody loves to get 2 dollars per click but thats not easy.

sixone

We are talking about content driven mini sites. Not brandable domains from medium sized companies. Who already recieve regular SEO traffic and rely on type-ins and bookmarks from return visitors.

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jjjay

I don't care enough to argue. but I know small and big players are making money from it.

chowda

im actually glad i dont tell everyone what i do :D

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Dirty F

I agree, making threads like this, certainly on gfy is pretty damn stupid.

jjjay

haven't done it myself yet, and it seems an awful lot of hassle - you'd have to watch it constantly

might be worth playing around with though

I have heard however that after about a month it often stops working as Google starts paying less for clicks on that site

we'll have to see if this guys' still making money from it in a couple of months

shuki

I thought ppc arbitrage was buying from google and sending to yahoo and vice versa?

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jjjay

yup, I don't get the mentality of sharing stuff that works

but this is an open secret anyway. it's discussed all over mainstream boards and there's even a book about it called swapclix

Dirty F

Yeah the reason im trying to figure this out is because im busy with adwords and adsense lately and i really like the way you can make money with it. So this sounds interesting as well.

jjjay

send it wherever it makes money

if you qualify for the yahoo program I believe they pay more per click

jjjay

there's the book swapclix that talks about this. don't know how good it is though.

and i guess I can't link but there's a great thread at sewatch about this. can't remember where it is but you'll want to look through the adsense and adwords forums, or use their search

Dirty F

Here's how the Adsense Adwords Arbitrage system works:

A company buys cheap ads (using a Google Adwords account) to drive users to their site where they write about topics that are likely to attract high-paying ads.

If a reader clicks on cheap ad to come to their site, and then leaves the site by clicking on an expensive ad, the website owner makes money on the difference, minus Google's cut.

But Adsense Arbitrage may not be the best way to generate income from Adsense. There are some risks involved that could eat your profits:

1. People who have already clicked on an ad are much less willing to keep clicking on more ads.

2. You will never get a 100% CTR - and every visitor exiting your site without clicking the "high-paying" ad will make you poorer by atleast 5 cents.

3. Even if you provide no exit routes other than adsense links, people may always close the browser window or type another URL in the address bar or click on bookmarks.

Of course, without advertisers' cash, this corner of the online-ad market could never flourish.

Google has also introduced a system of separate content bidding for Google AdWords. Advertisers can now choose to bid different prices for keywords depending on whether the ad appears on either the Google search engine or content sites. Previously, the single keyword bid by advertisers was applied to their ads on both search and content pages.

The move brings Google into line with Yahoo! that has run a similar dual pricing strategy for some time. It allows advertisers to compare the effectiveness of their promotions on the different mediums and vary the prices they are willing to bid accordingly. For example some advertisers might prefer to target content sites specific to the product they are selling while others may wish to attract potential buyers while they are still in the 'research mode' - i.e. when using the search engine to find product.

Google says that the new content bidding mechanism will be available to advertisers through the AdWords campaign management interface and is available to all advertisers worldwide. It also says the new service will not affect the site targeting feature, which is the tool that allows advertisers to target specific content sites in the Google network.

In addition, the minimum bid for content is now a static $.01 (in the US).

Dirty F

Thanks, i will do some searching.

jjjay

further reading:

http://tinyurl.com/etekb

http://tinyurl.com/k6gth

http://tinyurl.com/g3zjx

Dirty F

Thanks, now lets let this thread die.

SmokeyTheBear

yah this is how the guy from plentyoffish.com is doing it.

He is both selling and buying the same keywords

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