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will76 03-14-2006 10:26 PM

GFY's Calender of excuses

January: Credit Cards maxed out from Christmas / Superbowl
February: Credit Cards maxed out from Christmas
March: Spring Break
April: Taxes
May: Summer Slow Down
June: Summer Slow Down
August: Summer Slow Down/Kids Back in School
September: Kids back in school.
October: Saving For Christmas
November: Saving For Christmas
December: Holidays/Christmas Spending

Holidays:
Bad Economy
War
Good Weather
Sporting Events
Law and Order

dissipate 03-14-2006 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
GFY's Calender of excuses

January: Credit Cards maxed out from Christmas / Superbowl
February: Credit Cards maxed out from Christmas
March: Spring Break
April: Taxes
May: Summer Slow Down
June: Summer Slow Down
August: Summer Slow Down/Kids Back in School
September: Kids back in school.
October: Saving For Christmas
November: Saving For Christmas
December: Holidays/Christmas Spending

Holidays:
Bad Economy
War
Good Weather
Sporting Events
Law and Order

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

BV 03-14-2006 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed
I'm not panicking here, but I can really see today as an *unusually* slow day for sales. Anyone else? Anyone see a cause or pattern?

Steve Lightspeed

Tomorrow or the next day you will have record sales! Happens to me every once and a while.

Spring Break affects us some, Nice weather, lots of people away on vacation, etc etc.. If everyone lived at the North Pole we'd all be filthy rich.

April 14 - 15th I noticed was bad last year. Those days really sucked for me. Everyone busy & depressed paying taxes.

Football season, especially towards the end, I saw trends, like after Monday Night football was over I noticed bursts of sales. Same for SuperBowl day. All day was off then late that night, boom, picked up again.

Maybe it's all just coincidence, maybe it's not....

:upsidedow

venus 03-14-2006 10:54 PM

yesterday and today have been slower then normal, people to the signup page have been the same tho, was trying to blame it on the storms in the midwest - but who knows, I think tomorrow I am sending out a bulk email to just see who is biting.

fuzebox 03-14-2006 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
GFY's Calender of excuses

January: Credit Cards maxed out from Christmas / Superbowl
February: Credit Cards maxed out from Christmas
March: Spring Break
April: Taxes
May: Summer Slow Down
June: Summer Slow Down
August: Summer Slow Down/Kids Back in School
September: Kids back in school.
October: Saving For Christmas
November: Saving For Christmas
December: Holidays/Christmas Spending

Holidays:
Bad Economy
War
Good Weather
Sporting Events
Law and Order

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh so true :thumbsup

The worst part is, whenever one person is having the worst day/week they've had in months, someone else is having a record breaking best day ever.

venus 03-14-2006 10:56 PM

one thing I noticed is that my overseas signups are higher then the US signups, like fewer americans are not buying right now compared to the overseas crowd.

kenny 03-14-2006 11:15 PM

thanksgiving

chrismas

spring break

summer slow down

football

taxes

elections

I never see the traffic change much at all just the sales.

Doctor Dre 03-14-2006 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
GFY's Calender of excuses

January: Credit Cards maxed out from Christmas / Superbowl
February: Credit Cards maxed out from Christmas
March: Spring Break
April: Taxes
May: Summer Slow Down
June: Summer Slow Down
August: Summer Slow Down/Kids Back in School
September: Kids back in school.
October: Saving For Christmas
November: Saving For Christmas
December: Holidays/Christmas Spending

Holidays:
Bad Economy
War
Good Weather
Sporting Events
Law and Order

Almost sounds like strippers there. They think the world revolve arround them, and that the gas price is the reason why they are making 50% less money then the week before.

kenny 03-14-2006 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venus
one thing I noticed is that my overseas signups are higher then the US signups, like fewer americans are not buying right now compared to the overseas crowd.


Has your US traffic dropped?

or just the US conversion ratios?

venus 03-14-2006 11:44 PM

traffic looks the same, just more foreign sales, and not the expected gerrmany and japan either, I am seeing more LU, SE, CL .. places like that

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny
Has your US traffic dropped?

or just the US conversion ratios?


potter 03-14-2006 11:46 PM

SPRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING BREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAK

thought it was obvious.

kenny 03-14-2006 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by potter
SPRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING BREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAK

thought it was obvious.

except the traffic doesn't change

hey it's spring break.. we'll just look at porn and not buy it

will76 03-15-2006 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venus
was trying to blame it on the storms in the midwest

LOL BINGO! you can BLAME is on anything you want to.

Maybe Jupiter was alined with Mecury and Pluto was in it's 7th solar obit. :1orglaugh

will76 03-15-2006 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh so true :thumbsup

The worst part is, whenever one person is having the worst day/week they've had in months, someone else is having a record breaking best day ever.

exactly.

I can't work with people who are looking for excuses. People looking for excuses are not looking for ways to MAKE money, they are looking for REASONS to explain why they are NOT making money.

I don't care if you are a noob or a vet here, you need to reread what I just posted and understand it.

chadglni 03-15-2006 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
LOL BINGO! you can BLAME is on anything you want to.

Maybe Jupiter was alined with Mecury and Pluto was in it's 7th solar obit. :1orglaugh

Dude, people that get majority US signups are affected by MANY things. You promote clickcash, they process worldwide and are good at it, big ass difference.

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will76 03-15-2006 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni
Dude, people that get majority US signups are affected by MANY things. You promote clickcash, they process worldwide and are good at it, big ass difference.

WTF? Find me the US residents only section of the internet. lol.

Find me which sponsors only process US transactions.

you are way off base.

will76 03-15-2006 04:37 PM

For those of you who believe in slowdowns, bad internet days, you are ignorant. Don't take it as an insult, ignorant just means you don't know better, not that you are stupid.

Here is a little education compliments of TeamClickCash, a good read for everyone here:

My Porn-Myth:

DO NOT believe that there is a slow time of the year. Do NOT make excuses for why your sales/traffic is down. There are no slow times of the year.. I repeat there are no slow times of the year. (in the adult online industry)

It is ok if you think there are. Just about everyone thinks there are slow times and they make sure to teach others this. You need to unteach yourselves. This way of thinking teachs people how to make excuses and put blame on something else other then themselves, and honestly it is not true anyway. But it is definetly a negative way of thinking regardless what you believe, and you should always be thinking positive. When sales are down think how can i do better not, oh well its not my fault kids just went back in school, etc..

Let me get the excuses out of way... you will hear:
Nov/Dec... it's the holidays people are saving for Christmas, so not spending on porn.
Jan - people not spending their credit cards are maxed out because of christmas.
April - taxes, people too concerned about pay taxes
June - Aug - summer sucks, everyone on vaction or spending more time outside.
Aug/Sept - kids are back in school. just had to spend a lot on tuition or school supplies.
etc...

My personal favorite is the weather... The myth is that when the weather is nice sales are down because more people go out and when the weather is bad people stay in and spend money.

Having so many excuses causes problems from time to time. The winter is believed to be good by many because the northern US gets a lot of snow, it is cold, and people stay in and search porn. But the holidays (christmas in particular) is a bad time of the year because people are traveling or spending a lot of money on gifts... so i guess when you have a good day it is because there was a lot of snow and a bad day was caused by too many people going shopping that day.

Sporting events... another personal favorite of mine. When you have a bad day and it happens to be a sunday from august - jan, don't fear you have the NFL to blame it on. (this works well for Monday nights too and if you are a college fan then you know no one is online during college football saturday). Superbowl!!! Are you crazy! no one makes money during the superbowl why even waste your bandwidth, just shut your servers down.

Politics... If you noticed your sales have dropped over the last couple years, blame it on IRAQ. And when you are having a bad day if it wasn't a holiday and the weather was bad and there was no sporting event, you can always find something political that happened to blame it on... Tentions increase with China... hey the pope died today,, sales tanked..

OHH the economy.. almost forget that one.. Easy to blame it on the economy, just blame Bush... damn gas is up who can afford porn when it is 2.50 at the pumps.

There are so many excuses I could go on and on but the only legit excuse is you.

You can see I covered just about every day of the year above with excuses. so if all of these excuses were true then no one would ever make money, every day would suck. What happens is people don't think about the excuses (slow downs) till they see their sales are down, then they think "why are my sales down" at this point there are two ways you can go.. positive or negative. A negative person will start trying to justify why his sales are down and he will find like people so they can console each other. A positive person will double check all of his stuff, server, links all work, nothing been changed, traffic sources still sending traffic, etc.. and then he will start working harder to make more money. A negative person will make excuses faster and more often and will eventually create his own slow times. " I'm taking off this sunday, not going to make any money with all the football games on, etc..." A positive person will work harder on the "supposed' slow time to ensure he makes more money then usual during these times.

If after reading all of this you still don't believe me thats fine, just tell yourself you will work harder on those days to make money and try keep a positive point of view. At least take away from this the importance of being positive. It is hard for people to be untaught. All of us were taught to make excuses. All of us myself included. It is only natural, we want to make ourselves feel better for why we are not doing as good as we like. Everyone does it to some extent.

A little bit of what I have noticed over the last 6 years.
Slow downs affect all mainstream industries and are magnified when over a smaller location. BUT Adult online (world wide) is not affected by "slow downs".

I had an average day on September 11th (911) with sales. My sales are consistant every week through out the year. I am not the only person. the only time my stats differ is when i do something to affect them (neglect my stuff for a few days they go down, work double time they go up, never fails). If you post on a messageboard or network with a lot of people you will see this is common, for every 1 person that says they are having a bad day there is another person saying he is having a great day.

Also, there are the "scrubs and shaves" people. I am not sure if they are the same people who believe slow downs and when they can't blame it on a football game or time of the year the blame the sponsor for shaving... ive seen them all get blammed by the way.

Your sales will be up some days and down some days it is 100% fact, You can't keep doing better and better every single day. And don't micro analyze. If you ride the roller coster of watching your stats day to day or even worse hour to hour and comparing previous days or hours to the current sales, you will go insaine.. not too mention spend too much time not working. Use sales as an indicator.. when you see them low double check everything.. and then turn it up a notch.. put more effort in.. when you see them high don't be dissapointed when they go back to averge. it happens. Try to look at your stats week to week to compare how well you are doing.

It's funny I've never heard someone say " I'm having a bad day today and it's my fault" LOL ANYONE ever hear that?

I don't mean to sound like I am on soap box. Just trying to help some of you guys who have never heard a different view point on this. Being successful has a lot to do with having the right attitude. If one person reads this and takes something good from it then it was worth the long post ;)

BTW exercise caution when debating this with a firm believer of "slow downs" to some people excuses are their crutch and they dont want to face reality and will not believe what you are saying no matter how convincing you are.

chadglni 03-15-2006 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
WTF? Find me the US residents only section of the internet. lol.

Find me which sponsors only process US transactions.

you are way off base.

Look here you god damned hard headed know it all fuck. Adult programs use 2 count them 2 main billers. Clickcash bills their own shit. Clickcash has always gotten more out of the US signups through than the 2 main adult billers.

That being said I just looked at my downline stats for clickcash. 27 affiliates that push decent sales, 26 of them are well under their normal dollar amount. The average is 34% lower sales this week than from 1 month ago. Take your argumentative assed out attitude and blow it out your ass ok? :thumbsup

chadglni 03-15-2006 04:41 PM

I can hear the keyboard banging now, here comes Will with more wisdom!

HushMoney 03-15-2006 04:43 PM

everyone should quit now, there is no money in porn.

:helpme

Jensen 03-15-2006 04:44 PM

about average for me.. just another day

will76 03-15-2006 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni
I can hear the keyboard banging now, here comes Will with more wisdom!

no point, you know it all aready i would only be wasting me time with you.

so why are your sales down this week? Spring break ?

chadglni 03-15-2006 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
no point, you know it all aready i would only be wasting me time with you.

so why are your sales down this week? Spring break ?

Mine aren't too far off from normal. As for why my downline is off who fucking knows but there can be reasons for signups going down. As much as you dont' want to believe it by your 55 mile long post up there sales are not a straight line across all year. If you don't think Steve Lightspeed has the experience to know when something is up you are nuts.

Oh and if the main billers can get those non US residents so easy then why do programs geo IP foreign shit? Why do they use alternative billing methods? Why is there a constant struggle in the industry to get the money from these people? God damn they should just call Will, he can make those processors magically approve more out of country cards!

Even you can't believe your constant shills.

Wiggles 03-15-2006 05:04 PM

last 2 days have been slow, in comparison to last week that was huge for sales.

Dirty D 03-15-2006 05:12 PM

Yesterday wasn't too bad but TODAY SUCKS :2 cents:

will76 03-15-2006 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni
Mine aren't too far off from normal. As for why my downline is off who fucking knows but there can be reasons for signups going down. As much as you dont' want to believe it by your 55 mile long post up there sales are not a straight line across all year. If you don't think Steve Lightspeed has the experience to know when something is up you are nuts.

Oh and if the main billers can get those non US residents so easy then why do programs geo IP foreign shit? Why do they use alternative billing methods? Why is there a constant struggle in the industry to get the money from these people? God damn they should just call Will, he can make those processors magically approve more out of country cards!

Even you can't believe your constant shills.


obviously you haven't read my posts, i have STATED several times that people's stats can't be straight line, when you actually read what i post before you reply then I might reply back to you.

WTF does shills have anything to do with me not believing in slow downs, or good weather affecting my sales. explain that one?

Lastly, if steve is neive enough to think that the reasons his sales were down on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 was because of spring break, then that is steve's ignorance or anyone else that belives that.

I will post FACTS for everyone WHY this " spring break" was not the reason why someone's sales were down on Tuesday, or any day for that fucking matter.

FACT: 5,747,190 students (major universities)
FACT: 2,282,556 students were on spring break this past week March 13- 19. I think it is safe to say that at least half were girls and we know account for very little of our sales. Not everyone goes on spring break.
For the ones that do go, the weekends are the most popular. I know first hand, I went several times, sometimes more then once a year. So lets assume that spring break affected your sales it would have hit them hard on friday when the MAJORITY of students got out of class and headed out of town. Class all day, then pack up and then hit the highway, check into hotel party all night. This happens on FRIDAY, not a TUESDAY. So if Spring break was the cause of the problem, meaning that a very very small portion of the entire US population that was "off of school and on vacation" which affected your sales, then Friday would have been the day you would have noticed this.

Source: http://www.tripsmarter.com/panamacit...sbcalendar.htm

I think i am going back to " take my word for it" and you people can believe me if you want to or not. Proving this to you takes too much of my valuable time and you still probably are not going to believe what you read anyway.

Titan 03-15-2006 05:44 PM

I'm almost certain its Paycom/CCBill scrub fucking everyone. Sales have been very erratic this month. Somebody is probably doing a bunch of fraud and they are scrub fucking everyone to bring down the average chargeback ratios. Its a few bad apples fucking everyone. Paycom/CCbill use a lot of the same scrubbing stuff so I think its time to look for a true alternate biller to put in the cascade.

XPays 03-15-2006 05:45 PM

the big factor that consistently interrupts sales that is consumer-related and not vendor/middleware-related is a big ass news story. for example 9/11...

venus 03-15-2006 05:52 PM

will, your not as smart as you want to be.... think about storms, think what they do, especially when phone lines, cable lines and such are destroyed. what happens when you cut these lines or destroy building that routers are in.
major storms cause problems. period.
I missed it but what website do you own?

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
LOL BINGO! you can BLAME is on anything you want to.

Maybe Jupiter was alined with Mecury and Pluto was in it's 7th solar obit. :1orglaugh


BV 03-15-2006 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venus
will, your not as smart as you want to be.... think about storms, think what they do, especially when phone lines, cable lines and such are destroyed. what happens when you cut these lines or destroy building that routers are in.
major storms cause problems. period.
I missed it but what website do you own?

will76 gets 48 signups a day 7 days a week 365 days a year, every 30 minutes on the dot, never any slow time for him........

venus 03-15-2006 06:01 PM

ya I am sure he does. A legend in his own mind

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV
will76 gets 48 signups a day 7 days a week 365 days a year, every 30 minutes on the dot, never any slow time for him........


will76 03-15-2006 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venus
will, your not as smart as you want to be.... think about storms, think what they do, especially when phone lines, cable lines and such are destroyed. what happens when you cut these lines or destroy building that routers are in.
major storms cause problems. period.
I missed it but what website do you own?

storms causing your sales to go down is about as relivant as which website i own is to my post about this topic.

i own teamclickcash.com and about 200 other domains, am i required to post them to make a point here ?

Ok, lets follow your logic.... ( i don't know why i even do this.) how many people do you think were affected by those storms, how many people in the us ? Lets say, that .0001% lost power or internet access because of those storms, why would your sales be down significantly ??? why wouldn't they be relative to the amount of people who were actually affected. Please explain.

This how a storm affects your sales. You own a resturant in middle town us, a tornado rips through the little town and half of the homes are destroyed and you have no power. You can't open the next day and a lot of people are out of town staying with friends. Your sales at your restaurant suffer from storms.

When you operate a business online, even if it was just in the US, and somethign happens that affects a small portion of the population in a small area, you will NOT see this reflected in your sales. Hmmm i usually get 10 signups a day, but today i had 5 because of the storms in the midwest.??? :upsidedow :warning

chadglni 03-15-2006 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV
will76 gets 48 signups a day 7 days a week 365 days a year, every 30 minutes on the dot, never any slow time for him........

Will is a hardheaded ass period. Yesterday (the day Steve was talking about) was one of the worst days in a long long time for 27 people I can keep an eye on. This week is slow for 26 people and yesterday sucked. But god damn don't tell Will that because it's impossible. He'll pull some fucking irrelevant statistic out of his ass and call you a moron.

will76 03-15-2006 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV
will76 gets 48 signups a day 7 days a week 365 days a year, every 30 minutes on the dot, never any slow time for him........

another fucking idiot that can't read.

scoll up a post and try reading again.

Basic_man 03-15-2006 06:12 PM

Last seven days have been slowwwwwwww for me :(

will76 03-15-2006 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni
Will is a hardheaded ass period. Yesterday (the day Steve was talking about) was one of the worst days in a long long time for 27 people I can keep an eye on. This week is slow for 26 people and yesterday sucked. But god damn don't tell Will that because it's impossible. He'll pull some fucking irrelevant statistic out of his ass and call you a moron.

i want to give you access to how my clickcash stats so you can see how my downline did yesterday. I don't want you to come back and say i am makign up shit i want you to log in and check. They had a much better then average day. So how do you explain that, my guys did great yesterday, the people " you keep an eye on" did bad.

ICQ me chad, check my stats and educate me.

chadglni 03-15-2006 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
i want to give you access to how my clickcash stats so you can see how my downline did yesterday. I don't want you to come back and say i am makign up shit i want you to log in and check. They had a much better then average day. So how do you explain that, my guys did great yesterday, the people " you keep an eye on" did bad.

ICQ me chad, check my stats and educate me.

Why don't you explain it? Oh wait you can't, does that mean there isn't a damn reason? Last damn time you were on here yelling about clickcash specifically not being slow their fucking server wouldn't even resolve for 5 seperate people I had test it. Their tracking was all fucked up for a couple of days for whatever reason and you were STILL yelling about this same shit. Let me guess, the 5 people I know checking something are too stupid to know how to do it right and you have all the answers? Why don't you spit out your other tried and true suggestion "change your pages!". Doesn't matter if they've been consistent for 3 or 4 years, when they drop in half and stay there for days on end it's because you're promo isn't fresh. The shit is retarded and I think you know that. You're just so used to coaching 100 noobs that scream when their 1 signup a day is a 0 the next day you don't even bother to look anymore.

chadglni 03-15-2006 06:22 PM

I dropped CCBill on a PPC account I was spending thousands of dollars a month on because the 1:50 ratio went to 1:3000 overnight and never recovered. What excuse do you have for that one? I'll just bypass common sense and ask you these important questions from now on.

BV 03-15-2006 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
another fucking idiot that can't read.

scoll up a post and try reading again.

:321GFY no need to waste any more time

sarcasm Do you speak it?


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