Which sponsor shaves the most? - GoFuckYourself.com

Aussie Rebel · 04-28-2002, 07:37 PM

Simple question what sponsors have ripped you off by shaving your stats?

04-28-2002, 07:43 PM

topbucks

noshit · 04-28-2002, 07:47 PM

the ones i've been shaved the most: an old program called clickermint was by far the worst for me, was run by the ALWAYS upfront... robmac.

now a days of the ones i've used, i'd have to say the totally4freecash 4 cent blind program.

DTK · 04-28-2002, 07:48 PM

I'd bet that ROLLIN's upcoming "big sponsor program" would be in the running.

Sly_RJ · 04-28-2002, 07:48 PM

Flame war waiting to happen.

Royaltee_Gee · 04-28-2002, 07:49 PM

All per signup sponsors shave. No matter what they say, its a proven fact. thats the only way they can afford to pay you that much money per signup...

Its just some sponsors shave more then others, and make it more obvious. some are smarter and harder to notice....

Kimmykim · 04-28-2002, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by noshit
the ones i've been shaved the most: an old program called clickermint was by far the worst for me, was run by the ALWAYS upfront... robmac.

Didn't he have a partner?

J.R. · 04-28-2002, 08:03 PM

Ha.. funny stuff..

Xpics shaved.. some accounts.

Anyways,

If your worried about shaving sponsors. Signup
for a Parthernship Program like www.PervertCash.com

They don't shave!

noshit · 04-28-2002, 08:05 PM

kimmykim,

yeah kind of a partner, he was a spawn of someone else, not going to mention him here but you probably know who it is.

hehe

Sly_RJ · 04-28-2002, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J.R.

If your worried about shaving sponsors. Signup
for a Parthernship Program like www.PervertCash.com

They don't shave!

Dude, don't act like PC is some third party company you just happen to work with. Take pride in your work and don't look like a spammer.

Pipecrew · 04-28-2002, 08:26 PM

*cough *cough I hear everyone bitching about NastyDollars

flame away

SABAI · 04-28-2002, 08:27 PM

biggest shaver???

hmmm i think topcash used to shave big time

Aussie Rebel · 04-28-2002, 08:30 PM

I'm surprised that some of the bigger companys hav'nt been mentioned,

Hot Tropical Babes · 04-28-2002, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aussie Rebel
Simple question what sponsors have ripped you off by shaving your stats?

Aussie, It feels like they ALL are this month!

Lev · 04-28-2002, 08:35 PM

Quote:

All per signup sponsors shave. No matter what they say, its a proven fact. thats the only way they can afford to pay you that much money per signup...

Not the ones using CCBill

GreenBooger · 04-28-2002, 08:46 PM

Eliminate shaving by starting your own paysite or support the little honest guys and their affiliates !

Aussie Rebel · 04-28-2002, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hot Tropical Babes

Aussie, It feels like they ALL are this month!

Thats what made me start this post, this is the worst month I've had in 4 years

Hot Tropical Babes · 04-28-2002, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aussie Rebel

Thats what made me start this post, this is the worst month I've had in 4 years

same here

Sly_RJ · 04-28-2002, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aussie Rebel

Thats what made me start this post, this is the worst month I've had in 4 years

That bad? Damn!

hyper · 04-28-2002, 10:39 PM

then doesnt it make sense to use sponsors with 3rd party billing?

in other words if your worried about people with their own stats interface shaving, then use someone who uses ccbill ibill globill and such

angelsofporn · 04-28-2002, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by Aussie Rebel

Thats what made me start this post, this is the worst month I've had in 4 years

Yep

jimmy3way · 04-28-2002, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by angelsofporn

Thats what made me start this post, this is the worst month I've had in 4 years

Same here.....but a certian prick I know is doing mad sales...he knows something we don't...now if I could just get him on ICQ when he drunk nough to brag....

LiveDose · 04-29-2002, 12:06 AM

Glad someone started this post. The shaving in this industry has started to get more noticeable. Some sponsors make it so blatant that it is almost funny...

That's why FREE CONTENT is not really free.... We are indeed paying for it.

I think at some point a sponsor with balls will start a smaller scale or different payout system that works for them without shaving and the word will get out. I would much rather make less per sale but really know what the true stats are. It would take one of the larger companies to start on this though...

I agree that the best strategy is to move towards starting and promoting your own sites. It can be done on smaller levels and you can still make pretty good bank. Then you will also see what the real deal is with your traffic...

Aussie Rebel · 04-29-2002, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LiveDose
Glad someone started this post. The shaving in this industry has started to get more noticeable. Some sponsors make it so blatant that it is almost funny...

That's why FREE CONTENT is not really free.... We are indeed paying for it.

I think at some point a sponsor with balls will start a smaller scale or different payout system that works for them without shaving and the word will get out. I would much rather make less per sale but really know what the true stats are. It would take one of the larger companies to start on this though...

I agree that the best strategy is to move towards starting and promoting your own sites. It can be done on smaller levels and you can still make pretty good bank. Then you will also see what the real deal is with your traffic...

Good point

klik · 04-29-2002, 01:13 AM

worst month for me too... i'm converting 0:3000 on my last gallery

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Pornwolf · 04-29-2002, 02:12 AM

Let's see who's post on this thread will be his last...

LiveDose · 04-29-2002, 02:15 AM

Maybe he doesn't know??? LOL

We shall see...

candidpublishinginc · 04-29-2002, 04:19 AM

Jesus guys. No one is shaving you. Unless you have solid proof that you're being shaved, you can't accuse an honest sponsor like topbucks of shaving.

You may think you're being shaved because your sales are lower than maybe a few months ago, but it's because the traffic you're sending to that sponsor isn't converting as good as it used to.

Also lets not forget scrubbing. Your sponsors probably doesn't shave, but the processors must scrub in order to keep the chargebacks below 1 percent.

andrey · 04-29-2002, 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by candidpublishinginc
No one is shaving you.

I agree

funkmaster · 04-29-2002, 04:28 AM

"was run by the ALWAYS upfront... robmac. "

noshit, if you don´t have the guts to mention his two partners (serge and scott philips) and also have now idea what really happened at clickermint, you better shut the fuck up here, robmac is one of the most honest guys I have ever met in my whole life. he was the one that originated the 100% programs, but he had no control of the program itself ... and when he got kicked out of clickermint he was doing CE´s webmaster support for a short period of time, do you honestly think FM would employ a blantant cheater ??

... and once we are at it, robmac has started a new program, this time without the clickermint partners. feel free to check it out: http://www.crocodilecash.com/

teadrinker · 04-29-2002, 05:15 AM

ARS, no contest.

ldinternet · 04-29-2002, 05:28 AM

ars is a great sponsor.

honest as they come.

justsexxx · 04-29-2002, 05:48 AM

intergal

Andre

Pornwolf · 04-29-2002, 06:13 AM

I was starting to wonder if Intergal was even a real program. I have next to no conversions with them and they still have banners that had to be made in 1992.

SABAI · 04-29-2002, 06:24 AM

hmmm most sponsors shave, even some third party processors like CTC....but above all all credit card processors are weebing out a big percentage of foreign and us credit cards randomly...

the problem with this practise is that the guy willing to pay memberships and being refused will not try to join any site again in 90% of case.....
also the refusals are totally random....
most of time i take out my visa to take a trial to sites i advertise

with CCbill its 2 out of ten times that i'm refused
with Globill its 4 out of ten times
and the winner is IBILL wich refuses my card 8 out of ten tries

my card is a valid visa international and i never had any problems with it exept on the internet all the time on porn sites....i have a 2000$ under 0 authorisation so there is absolutely no way for my bank to refuse a transaction...exept for the automatic billings like my host who knows they have to bill me after the 10th of everymonth...

i think this practise is ruining it for everyone......

funkmaster · 04-29-2002, 06:38 AM

"with CCbill its 2 out of ten times that i'm refused
with Globill its 4 out of ten times
and the winner is IBILL wich refuses my card 8 out of ten tries"

... so this is how the "true professional" scrubbing realy works, it´s all random based ... vscrub.com´s cover has finaly been blown away ... thanks for clearing this up !!

12clicks · 04-29-2002, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SABAI

most of time i take out my visa to take a trial to sites i advertise

with CCbill its 2 out of ten times that i'm refused
with Globill its 4 out of ten times
and the winner is IBILL wich refuses my card 8 out of ten tries

dude, I'm sure you're credit card is smoked. You joined that many sites? your card is in the fraud base of any *GOOD* processor.
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oh, and guys. I know you just hate to hear this but don't you think *years* of giving the milk away for free has finally caught up with the cash cow?
no one ever needs to join a paysite if they know how to surf. we're lucky ANYONE pulls out a CC any more. Conversions are down. I doubt very seriously that anyone reputable shaves. (my reputable list will be different from yours I'm sure) I send traffic to a site that I know doesn't shave because its run by my friend

I see very wide signup swings and doughts there just like the rest of you.

You know how much I love to blast people. If there was shaving going on that I knew about, you can be sure I'd be screaming.

and I always liked rob mac. He doesn't always make the smartest decisions but he's a good guy and occasionally comes up with good ideas.

pornJester · 04-29-2002, 06:47 AM

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amadman · 04-29-2002, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by candidpublishinginc
Jesus guys. No one is shaving you. Unless you have solid proof that you're being shaved, you can't accuse an honest sponsor like topbucks of shaving.

You may think you're being shaved because your sales are lower than maybe a few months ago, but it's because the traffic you're sending to that sponsor isn't converting as good as it used to.

Also lets not forget scrubbing. Your sponsors probably doesn't shave, but the processors must scrub in order to keep the chargebacks below 1 percent.

Lol.. I cant find the post now but I remember awhile back a guy came on here promoting his new affiliat software which he gave a temp password to the admin area and inside it had option settings for shaving :o)

Shaving is possible so it is being done by some. No doubt about it!

sarcasticbastard · 04-29-2002, 08:26 AM

as soon as i can get revshave.com open you can bet your fucking ass we shave. but hey we tell you upfront and pay on time. And didnt one bright fucker or two say it's the size of the check that matters? so i expect all you mad tgpers to signup and carry my referral in your sig.
just like you all do for a bunch of similar bastards.

all bullshit aside, a couple of ya said this is your worse month in 4 years? time to examine what the hell your doing. no need cuz this is your whole problem. you guys that tgp for majority of your income are all fighting for the tid bit of search traffic a tgp generates or for the occasional lucky perv who is looking for exactly what you got out of the billion bookmarkers and crap foreign traffic you all pass back and forth from gallery to gallery for fucking ever.
now take out all the shit traffic and include avs linklist traffic along with that search traffic then you will start to understand
that your traffic can be down 25 to 50% but still making sales goals. hell yea i got spanked good by google the last update but my sales goals are being met with no problem.
while you fuckers sit and worry about wether your next hun gallery is gonna get listed and bitch on the ars board
do sponsors shave? fuck i cant prove anything. i will say i proudly have topbucks as an advertiser on my board and goddamn sure don't think they shave. their ass wouldnt be there for any amount of money. just look at their entrance console and tell me they shave. they don't fuckin have to, that console is killer.
and learn some goddamn statistical analysis before you whine about ratios ever fuckin again.
some of you just piss me off
but hey ima
sarcastic bastard

noshit · 04-29-2002, 08:40 AM

Quote:

noshit, if you don´t have the guts to mention his two partners (serge and scott philips) and also have now idea what really happened at clickermint, you better shut the fuck up here

it was a robmac program, what pupose would it serve to mention serge?

Quote:

he was the one that originated the 100% programs, but he had no control of the program itself

sounds just like clickermint , thanks for making my point

Quote:

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amadman · 04-29-2002, 08:41 AM

Just to make things more clear.

My post was to the comment:

"Jesus guys. No one is shaving you. "

My point wasnt to point fingers at any one sponsor.

I am just paranoid my nature and even though it may not be done by many it is kind of foolish to think it isn't done at all.

cherrylula · 04-29-2002, 09:16 AM

lol.....all of the sponsors I'm using... lol nah, but honestly I will say this:

TOO MUCH FREE PORN has fucked this industry. I just put up a mainstream page with about ten cd's from amazon's affiliate up. Made sales already. Made sales in a hearbeat!!!

Sure, they don't pay "blah blah, 50%, a million bucks a signup!" lol... BUT I now have this instinct that tells me I can convert MAINSTREAM traffic with MAINSTREAM products better than porn.

Fuck, all I keep reading around here are posts about visa and mastercard, and I forget who to quote that said "PORN is only less than 1% of all credit card transactions"..... OH REALLY?? Well then this must not be the place to be...??? I'm testing the waters right now, seeing if I change my focus.

Amazon dot com does not give shit away for free (its easier to sell something when a person has to buy it).

Before ever working in this porn industry, I have NEVER known one person that to my knowledge has paid for porn online. Anyone else? I myself never have, never will.... why bother when there are so many fucking pictures out there for free???? Unless you absolutely have something people want to see, I really think that conversion rates will continue to suck more and more. Get used to it.

funkmaster · 04-29-2002, 11:43 AM

"sounds just like clickermint , thanks for making my point"

LOL, I was only talking about clickermint. but like I said, it was not because of madmac that webmasters didn´t get payed. I lived at the mac´s house for almost 8 weeks and I am still short by 850 clickermint dollars, do you think I wouldn´t have stabbed him with a knive when he was sleeping (madmac is an awfull big and tough cunt) if it was him stealing the money ??

Aussie Rebel · 04-29-2002, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf

Let's see who's post on this thread will be his last...

HUH?

Milton · 04-29-2002, 06:23 PM

offshore clicks

04-28-2002, 07:37 PM	#1
Aussie Rebel Blow Me U Geeks Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Maximum Security Posts: 5,108	Which sponsor shaves the most? Simple question what sponsors have ripped you off by shaving your stats?

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04-28-2002, 10:39 PM	#20
hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	then doesnt it make sense to use sponsors with 3rd party billing? in other words if your worried about people with their own stats interface shaving, then use someone who uses ccbill ibill globill and such __________________

04-29-2002, 12:06 AM	#23
LiveDose Show Yer Tits! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere Out there... Posts: 25,792	Glad someone started this post. The shaving in this industry has started to get more noticeable. Some sponsors make it so blatant that it is almost funny... That's why FREE CONTENT is not really free.... We are indeed paying for it. I think at some point a sponsor with balls will start a smaller scale or different payout system that works for them without shaving and the word will get out. I would much rather make less per sale but really know what the true stats are. It would take one of the larger companies to start on this though... I agree that the best strategy is to move towards starting and promoting your own sites. It can be done on smaller levels and you can still make pretty good bank. Then you will also see what the real deal is with your traffic... __________________ Scammer Alert: acer19 acer [email protected] [email protected] Money stolen using PayPal

04-28-2002, 07:47 PM	#3
noshit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest USA Posts: 1,582	the ones i've been shaved the most: an old program called clickermint was by far the worst for me, was run by the ALWAYS upfront... robmac. now a days of the ones i've used, i'd have to say the totally4freecash 4 cent blind program.

04-28-2002, 07:48 PM	#4
DTK Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The 510 Posts: 4,545	I'd bet that ROLLIN's upcoming "big sponsor program" would be in the running.

04-28-2002, 07:49 PM	#6
Royaltee_Gee Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 973	All per signup sponsors shave. No matter what they say, its a proven fact. thats the only way they can afford to pay you that much money per signup... Its just some sponsors shave more then others, and make it more obvious. some are smarter and harder to notice....

04-28-2002, 08:03 PM	#8
J.R. WantBoobs.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Calif & Washington Posts: 3,472	Ha.. funny stuff.. Xpics shaved.. some accounts. Anyways, If your worried about shaving sponsors. Signup for a Parthernship Program like www.PervertCash.com They don't shave!

04-28-2002, 08:05 PM	#9
noshit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest USA Posts: 1,582	kimmykim, yeah kind of a partner, he was a spawn of someone else, not going to mention him here but you probably know who it is. hehe

04-28-2002, 08:26 PM	#11
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	cough cough I hear everyone bitching about NastyDollars flame away

04-28-2002, 08:30 PM	#13
Aussie Rebel Blow Me U Geeks Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Maximum Security Posts: 5,108	I'm surprised that some of the bigger companys hav'nt been mentioned,

04-28-2002, 08:46 PM	#16
GreenBooger Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: in your nose Posts: 108	Eliminate shaving by starting your own paysite or support the little honest guys and their affiliates !

04-28-2002, 11:25 PM	#21
angelsofporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 3,218	Originally posted by Aussie Rebel Thats what made me start this post, this is the worst month I've had in 4 years Yep

04-29-2002, 01:13 AM	#25
klik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: san diego Posts: 5,092	worst month for me too... i'm converting 0:3000 on my last gallery

04-28-2002, 07:43 PM	#2
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04-29-2002, 04:19 AM	#29
candidpublishinginc Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bedford, NH 03110 Posts: 707	Jesus guys. No one is shaving you. Unless you have solid proof that you're being shaved, you can't accuse an honest sponsor like topbucks of shaving. You may think you're being shaved because your sales are lower than maybe a few months ago, but it's because the traffic you're sending to that sponsor isn't converting as good as it used to. Also lets not forget scrubbing. Your sponsors probably doesn't shave, but the processors must scrub in order to keep the chargebacks below 1 percent. __________________ Candid Clicks Earn up to 4 cents a click for blind link traffic! NO CONVERSIONS, NO BS!

04-29-2002, 04:28 AM	#31
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	"was run by the ALWAYS upfront... robmac. " noshit, if you don´t have the guts to mention his two partners (serge and scott philips) and also have now idea what really happened at clickermint, you better shut the fuck up here, robmac is one of the most honest guys I have ever met in my whole life. he was the one that originated the 100% programs, but he had no control of the program itself ... and when he got kicked out of clickermint he was doing CE´s webmaster support for a short period of time, do you honestly think FM would employ a blantant cheater ?? ... and once we are at it, robmac has started a new program, this time without the clickermint partners. feel free to check it out: http://www.crocodilecash.com/ Last edited by funkmaster; 04-29-2002 at 04:36 AM..

04-29-2002, 05:15 AM	#32
teadrinker Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: CA Posts: 339	ARS, no contest.

04-29-2002, 05:28 AM	#33
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	ars is a great sponsor. honest as they come.

04-29-2002, 05:48 AM	#34
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04-29-2002, 06:13 AM	#35
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	I was starting to wonder if Intergal was even a real program. I have next to no conversions with them and they still have banners that had to be made in 1992.

04-29-2002, 06:24 AM	#36
SABAI Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: footmaniac.com Posts: 2,880	hmmm most sponsors shave, even some third party processors like CTC....but above all all credit card processors are weebing out a big percentage of foreign and us credit cards randomly... the problem with this practise is that the guy willing to pay memberships and being refused will not try to join any site again in 90% of case..... also the refusals are totally random.... most of time i take out my visa to take a trial to sites i advertise with CCbill its 2 out of ten times that i'm refused with Globill its 4 out of ten times and the winner is IBILL wich refuses my card 8 out of ten tries my card is a valid visa international and i never had any problems with it exept on the internet all the time on porn sites....i have a 2000$ under 0 authorisation so there is absolutely no way for my bank to refuse a transaction...exept for the automatic billings like my host who knows they have to bill me after the 10th of everymonth... i think this practise is ruining it for everyone...... __________________

04-29-2002, 06:38 AM	#37
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	"with CCbill its 2 out of ten times that i'm refused with Globill its 4 out of ten times and the winner is IBILL wich refuses my card 8 out of ten tries" ... so this is how the "true professional" scrubbing realy works, it´s all random based ... vscrub.com´s cover has finaly been blown away ... thanks for clearing this up !!

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04-29-2002, 08:26 AM	#41
sarcasticbastard Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: at the #1 newbie board Posts: 104	as soon as i can get revshave.com open you can bet your fucking ass we shave. but hey we tell you upfront and pay on time. And didnt one bright fucker or two say it's the size of the check that matters? so i expect all you mad tgpers to signup and carry my referral in your sig. just like you all do for a bunch of similar bastards. all bullshit aside, a couple of ya said this is your worse month in 4 years? time to examine what the hell your doing. no need cuz this is your whole problem. you guys that tgp for majority of your income are all fighting for the tid bit of search traffic a tgp generates or for the occasional lucky perv who is looking for exactly what you got out of the billion bookmarkers and crap foreign traffic you all pass back and forth from gallery to gallery for fucking ever. now take out all the shit traffic and include avs linklist traffic along with that search traffic then you will start to understand that your traffic can be down 25 to 50% but still making sales goals. hell yea i got spanked good by google the last update but my sales goals are being met with no problem. while you fuckers sit and worry about wether your next hun gallery is gonna get listed and bitch on the ars board do sponsors shave? fuck i cant prove anything. i will say i proudly have topbucks as an advertiser on my board and goddamn sure don't think they shave. their ass wouldnt be there for any amount of money. just look at their entrance console and tell me they shave. they don't fuckin have to, that console is killer. and learn some goddamn statistical analysis before you whine about ratios ever fuckin again. some of you just piss me off but hey ima sarcastic bastard __________________ Newbies Get Real Info Here! Tgp Avs Search Engines

04-29-2002, 08:41 AM	#43
amadman Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: padded room Posts: 738	Just to make things more clear. My post was to the comment: "Jesus guys. No one is shaving you. " My point wasnt to point fingers at any one sponsor. I am just paranoid my nature and even though it may not be done by many it is kind of foolish to think it isn't done at all. __________________ Affordable Quality Niche Content at <a href="http://reyko.com/in.php?ref=amadman">Reyko</a> Please submit your free and AVS sites <a href="http://xstash.com/sexpack/submit.html">here</a>

04-29-2002, 09:16 AM	#44
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	lol.....all of the sponsors I'm using... lol nah, but honestly I will say this: TOO MUCH FREE PORN has fucked this industry. I just put up a mainstream page with about ten cd's from amazon's affiliate up. Made sales already. Made sales in a hearbeat!!! Sure, they don't pay "blah blah, 50%, a million bucks a signup!" lol... BUT I now have this instinct that tells me I can convert MAINSTREAM traffic with MAINSTREAM products better than porn. Fuck, all I keep reading around here are posts about visa and mastercard, and I forget who to quote that said "PORN is only less than 1% of all credit card transactions"..... OH REALLY?? Well then this must not be the place to be...??? I'm testing the waters right now, seeing if I change my focus. Amazon dot com does not give shit away for free (its easier to sell something when a person has to buy it). Before ever working in this porn industry, I have NEVER known one person that to my knowledge has paid for porn online. Anyone else? I myself never have, never will.... why bother when there are so many fucking pictures out there for free???? Unless you absolutely have something people want to see, I really think that conversion rates will continue to suck more and more. Get used to it.

04-29-2002, 11:43 AM	#45
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	"sounds just like clickermint , thanks for making my point" LOL, I was only talking about clickermint. but like I said, it was not because of madmac that webmasters didn´t get payed. I lived at the mac´s house for almost 8 weeks and I am still short by 850 clickermint dollars, do you think I wouldn´t have stabbed him with a knive when he was sleeping (madmac is an awfull big and tough cunt) if it was him stealing the money ??

04-29-2002, 06:23 PM	#47
Milton Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Mauritius Posts: 1,118	offshore clicks