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Old 04-28-2002, 11:31 AM   #1
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Hosting movie files on AOL Accounts

I'm curious to know your guys opinion on people who host movie files on AOL accounts rather than paid, legal hosting. I think it is a bad idea for people to use AOL as their server for movies due to the fact that that is bandwidth theft. Albeit the fact that AOL is a corporate monster, stealing is stealing. If you have beef against them, see them in court -- don't be an ass and still a few dozen GB of b/w.

The MGP biz would be a lot easier to make money in if we didnt have assholes like these people abusing non-adult non-high traffic accounts to host their movies.

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Old 04-28-2002, 11:35 AM   #2
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I think its the movie TGPs that shouldn't support these guys by posting their galleries when the movies are hosted on AOL or shaw.ca or tera.es

There are plenty of honest gallery builders out there, support the honest ones, not the cheaters.

If they're willing to cheat someone else, they're willing to cheat you. Don't give them the chance!
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Old 04-28-2002, 11:47 AM   #3
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Its an age old problem, where to host a file 1mb+ on a site that gets 200k + /day the free host that fixes this problem will be very rich...
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Old 04-28-2002, 11:49 AM   #4
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Yea, it pisses me off to see galleries that have movies hosted on AOL and Co. get higher listing than me. I host my movies on a ColoGroup server and its fast as hell and it's legit. And if someone hotlinks, I can give them a pleasant surprise =D

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Old 04-28-2002, 11:50 AM   #5
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I'd rather approve a movie gallery hosted on Aol because it has a 3 - 4 mb movie usually.... then a stupid need4xxx gallery that has 6, 250k clips
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Old 04-28-2002, 12:00 PM   #6
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Satan,

Are you saying a freehost that offers 1mb mpegs would make a killing?

They would need to have VERY aggressive ads in the headers and footers...

plus they would be a HUGE target for hotlinkers...

I mean how many outgoing links on a freehost would that take 6-10 probably..
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Old 04-28-2002, 12:01 PM   #7
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Yea, it pisses me off to see galleries that have movies hosted on AOL and Co. get higher listing than me. I host my movies on a ColoGroup server and its fast as hell and it's legit. And if someone hotlinks, I can give them a pleasant surprise =D

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What is this "pleasant surprise" that you give hotlinkers?
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Old 04-28-2002, 12:04 PM   #8
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take 5 minutes and do something like this

http://xdb.shax.ru/movies/?limit=10&offset=0


check out the judsmovies section, click on a movie too
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Old 04-28-2002, 12:07 PM   #9
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Satan,

Are you saying a freehost that offers 1mb mpegs would make a killing?

They would need to have VERY aggressive ads in the headers and footers...

plus they would be a HUGE target for hotlinkers...

I mean how many outgoing links on a freehost would that take 6-10 probably..
Well, when I say "fix" the problem I realy mean fix, as in can afford to run such huge bandwidth.

There used to be a free host which did this once, it had pre-paid bandwidth for 1yr, I know they made a killing but once their bandwidth deal ran out.. the server closed.
They had a file size limmit of 5mb.

Can't remember the name.. hmm
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Old 04-28-2002, 12:10 PM   #10
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take 5 minutes and do something like this

http://xdb.shax.ru/movies/?limit=10&offset=0


check out the judsmovies section, click on a movie too

Thats fucking hilarious, just wait until he sees that. Fucking russian cheaters.
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Old 04-28-2002, 12:11 PM   #11
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Well, when I say "fix" the problem I realy mean fix, as in can afford to run such huge bandwidth.

There used to be a free host which did this once, it had pre-paid bandwidth for 1yr, I know they made a killing but once their bandwidth deal ran out.. the server closed.
They had a file size limmit of 5mb.

Can't remember the name.. hmm
What do you mean fix?

The fact that it's not profitable to give away 1MB movies doesn't really indicate anything is broken to me. There's nothing to fix.
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Old 04-28-2002, 12:16 PM   #12
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What do you mean fix?

The fact that it's not profitable to give away 1MB movies doesn't really indicate anything is broken to me. There's nothing to fix.
Problem = no place to host large movie files (free)
Fix = A place to host large movie files for free...

Whats so hard to understand?

Its been done before, and I believe it will soon be solved by a large company that can afford to host in this manner. (bandwidth continues to get cheaper)
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Old 04-28-2002, 12:22 PM   #13
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Only this industry could attract people who think that is a problem.
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Old 04-28-2002, 12:53 PM   #14
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5mb movie files is insane!

I was considering allowing 1mb movie files on my freehost, but what's the point - these guys want 3-5mb so they won't use it...

Besides most of the content hosted on aol, terra, ans shaw accounts is stolen content and no freehost wants that :p

I'll stick with 350kb...
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best leeching free host I'd ever seen, maybee that is the one he's talking about
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Old 04-28-2002, 01:04 PM   #16
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5mb movie files is insane!

I was considering allowing 1mb movie files on my freehost, but what's the point - these guys want 3-5mb so they won't use it...

Besides most of the content hosted on aol, terra, ans shaw accounts is stolen content and no freehost wants that :p

I'll stick with 350kb...
Yeah I'm not saying its a good idea to host large files, unless you can find a way to host them without it costing you huge $$$.

If it was easy to do, every free host would do it...
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Old 04-28-2002, 01:06 PM   #17
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best leeching free host I'd ever seen, maybee that is the one he's talking about
Nope thats not it...
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Old 04-28-2002, 03:55 PM   #18
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Its an age old problem, where to host a file 1mb+ on a site that gets 200k + /day the free host that fixes this problem will be very rich...
they'll be dead broke....
if you think it's great to have 1mb sized movies and submit them to movieposts, why don't you go ahead and pay for your own hosting and see how great it is?

ok, I'll open a freehost that allows 1mb file size movies, but I get 10 header/footer links and get to redirect 1 of every 5 US/Canadian surfers and all foreign surfers.....and 33% of all the webmaster links have to point to a sponsor with MY sponsor code....

then I might even make a few dollars on it......
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they'll be dead broke....
if you think it's great to have 1mb sized movies and submit them to movieposts, why don't you go ahead and pay for your own hosting and see how great it is?

ok, I'll open a freehost that allows 1mb file size movies, but I get 10 header/footer links and get to redirect 1 of every 5 US/Canadian surfers and all foreign surfers.....and 33% of all the webmaster links have to point to a sponsor with MY sponsor code....

then I might even make a few dollars on it......
I do pay for my hosting, but not to host free movies, I'd be dead broke!

But I like the sound of your deal! your on!!
Where do I upload?
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Maybe if the freehost had a way to insert their ad in the beginning in and end of each movie for like 3-5 seconds.

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Old 04-28-2002, 08:45 PM   #21
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people who host movies on their own server can definitely be seen as more reliable and more professional

if theyre posting movies on AOL, terra.es - there is no consistency, the movies can be taken down any time..

it all about having control and know what type of server everything is on
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Old 04-28-2002, 08:58 PM   #22
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ISnt that against aol rules anyway? Hell I have the name "Hot Tropical Sex" and have been in trouble for that!
bastards LOL
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Rackshack.net have a 10mbps unmetered dedicated package for $399 a month, I dont know if I would host my main pages there due to the lack of support, but at that price you could get with a few friends and serve movies to your hearts content.

http://www.rackshack.net/compaq10mbps.asp
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Rackshack.net have a 10mbps unmetered dedicated package for $399 a month, I dont know if I would host my main pages there due to the lack of support, but at that price you could get with a few friends and serve movies to your hearts content.

http://www.rackshack.net/compaq10mbps.asp
But, dude....that's not FREE.

We only want to serve up 1 to 5 MB movies to 200k people a day if someone else is paying for it.
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But, dude....that's not FREE.

We only want to serve up 1 to 5 MB movies to 200k people a day if someone else is paying for it.
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Old 04-29-2002, 12:58 AM   #26
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My freehost will host movies up to 1Mb. I just need to find a better freehost script. The one I am using right now is total crap.
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