Anyone who thinks that Cathy B is responsible for all the crap that happened at IBill probably thinks thinks that JR was never shot and that Bobby really did die.

Look at who was running the show when the downhill slide started picking up steam. MCI was one big warmup, lol...

Holy crap, i couldnt have said it better myself! :thumbsup

I agree, blame iBill from sep 04, but why blame the guys that bought it? makes no sence to me. they paid out big money on old fuck ups caused by past owners. If you dont blame Kathy (and I don't) why blame the new guys trying to save it??? also check out AVNONLINE.com for news story, very interesting...seems like FBI has already been there

one thing thats still amazing is that they are still allowed to run their fucking shit? your country is fucked up!

Canada=USAlight....HEY!

You are a complete FUCKTARD. For the 10,000th time, THERE ARE NO NEW OWNERS AT IBILL. The new guys who are trying to save it are the same old guys who fucked it all up.

Fuck them, they are bad for the industry. :2 cents:

bump for clipman!

Very interesting

As a former Exec at an IPSP, I can tell you that this is not true.

This may have been covered elsewhere, but Ibill apparently just sold its entire processing operation (including webmasters private information, all customer information, rebilling info, etc) to Etelegate, an EU-based company that, among other things, has exhorbitant fees ($1.99/mo PROCESSING fee per subscriber renewal, on top of the discount rate and other charges, just for starters...)

Several webmasters over at GayWideWebmasters have managed to get in touch and arrange cancellation of all the rebills, but it's another disaster waiting to happen.

And, of course, neither Etelegate nor Ibill notified their webmasters about the arrangemement.

We tried to sign up with them years ago, and after two weeks of chasing them on the phone, they could not get things set up, So we went to ccbill. And thank fucking god.

i totally feel that if my rep gave me a heads up when they knew it was pretty much done i'd have had my money. But I was told the money was gone and thats it... when in fact i know of 10-15 who got paid in full.

I feel i was let down. I think any rep that didnt tell their clients to sue after week 1 did their clients a disservice. I dont know about you, but trusting anyone over at i bill or any of the ibill jr's just aint going to happen for me.
Duke

They actualy have a pennystock? I know the SEC doesnt care much for that end of the market, but damn, how can they let people invest into a shit storm like ibill.

will the ibill story ever die? I fell the pain of those they fucked over....but its just like crying over spilled milk anymore......its time to face facts....your fucked and you will never get your $$$$ :(

You think?? :winkwink:

You may want to check out corp paperwork shuffling lately and see what friends of friends own eTelegate.

It saves postage when ya just have to move corp docs from one side of the desk to the other.

Fuck Ibill...bump

there is no real deal