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Old 03-07-2006, 08:15 PM   #1
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I need to buy SiteDepth or Adultwebware

After a disatrous experience and lost of time with " X-tract management " from Ecoders.biz.

Any deals available ?

Or if someone has a ref code that you could do a few bucks, post it here. I have to buy this before tomorrow AM.
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Old 03-07-2006, 09:17 PM   #2
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What kind of disastrous experience?
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Old 03-07-2006, 09:29 PM   #3
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What kind of disastrous experience?
Install was relatively easy.

But no instructions are supplied to know how to use the scripts.

So to them, it seems obvious or easy, but to those who didn't write the script, it is far from obvious. So some parts works, some others don't. They also use terminology that means something to them, but not to me.

A simple 2-3 pages ' how-to' would have been appropriate.

They were also gone for a full week, so emails went unanswered.

So you have to do a 'trial & error' approach, which is way too time consuming and unreliable.

Too bad, because it looks good. I even joined jenna.com to see it in action ( they never supplied a demo login - they were not there ).
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Old 03-07-2006, 11:15 PM   #5
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Install was relatively easy.

But no instructions are supplied to know how to use the scripts.

So to them, it seems obvious or easy, but to those who didn't write the script, it is far from obvious. So some parts works, some others don't. They also use terminology that means something to them, but not to me.

A simple 2-3 pages ' how-to' would have been appropriate.

They were also gone for a full week, so emails went unanswered.

So you have to do a 'trial & error' approach, which is way too time consuming and unreliable.

Too bad, because it looks good. I even joined jenna.com to see it in action ( they never supplied a demo login - they were not there ).
ummmmm Xtract is easy as shit. WTF didnt you understand?
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Old 03-08-2006, 09:31 AM   #6
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Old 03-08-2006, 09:38 AM   #7
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As with any business or product, its only as good as the customer service and support.

Omar at Site Depth is one cool guy and very helpful ......
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Old 03-08-2006, 09:41 AM   #8
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We have sitedepth on www.tabithastoybox.com and absolutely love it...the hardest part was learning the templates, but even that doesn't take that much time. All in All it kicks major ass for what we need done

if you need anything regarding sitedepth (help after install, or more info on it) let me know, I know it inside and out and would be glad to give you a hand
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As with any business or product, its only as good as the customer service and support.

Omar at Site Depth is one cool guy and very helpful ......
damn right, him and alfredo work 24/7 it seems, support is always there and they always goes that extra mile
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Old 03-08-2006, 09:53 AM   #10
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Id go with sitedepth personally, I like being able to icq their support guy when i have a problem
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Old 03-08-2006, 09:54 AM   #11
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I'm using a highly customized site depth install. The templates are really very easy to undersand and Omar and his team have been very helpful.
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Install was relatively easy.

But no instructions are supplied to know how to use the scripts.

So to them, it seems obvious or easy, but to those who didn't write the script, it is far from obvious. So some parts works, some others don't. They also use terminology that means something to them, but not to me.

A simple 2-3 pages ' how-to' would have been appropriate.

They were also gone for a full week, so emails went unanswered.

So you have to do a 'trial & error' approach, which is way too time consuming and unreliable.

Too bad, because it looks good. I even joined jenna.com to see it in action ( they never supplied a demo login - they were not there ).
Did you figure it out, or switch to another CMS ?
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Old 04-12-2006, 05:38 PM   #13
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Did you figure it out, or switch to another CMS ?
Long story ...

Switched to SiteDepth ... was really impressed . and had constant support ...

Too bad, X-track looked good and with a " how to " could be a good choice...

Problem with Europeans is that they don't see business the same way as Americans...

As a french Canadian ( or Quebecois .. ) we have a bit of both, but still expect direct answers to direct questions... never got that from ecoders.biz... too bad.
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That's too bad.. one of the sites running X-tract that I've looked around in was pretty good. I really liked their site and the way the members area was setup. Did you buy the source? What did you do with your version? Did you sell the license yet?
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Old 04-12-2006, 06:04 PM   #15
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We use sitedepth on most of our sites, it definately rocks! No complaints its pure plug and play with and easy button
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That's too bad.. one of the sites running X-tract that I've looked around in was pretty good. I really liked their site and the way the members area was setup. Did you buy the source? What did you do with your version? Did you sell the license yet?
I bought the 129.00 version ... I still have it ... I didn't reall look at their terms about reselling ...
Maybe I will give it another try on another less complicated site that I am opening...
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Old 04-15-2006, 09:14 AM   #18
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Long story ...

Switched to SiteDepth ... was really impressed . and had constant support ...

Too bad, X-track looked good and with a " how to " could be a good choice...

Problem with Europeans is that they don't see business the same way as Americans...

As a french Canadian ( or Quebecois .. ) we have a bit of both, but still expect direct answers to direct questions... never got that from ecoders.biz... too bad.
As a happy Xtract customer, I came across this thread and feel the need to point a few things out. First off, you said you paid for the $119 version of Xtract. How much did you pay for SiteDepth...$599? So to begin with you're comparing a product that costs 5 times as much.

Secondly, let's look at the pricing scheme > http://ecoders.biz/pricing.php. You went for the lite version which only includes an install. The control panel is very easy to use, you just have to figure out the templates. Documentation for the templates is available.

Had you paid for the Pro version at $499, you'd have a product which offers most of the features that SiteDepth does. In addition you'd be able to run unlimited sites (this costs $899 with SD) and you get the source code ($3995 with SD). For $499 you don't even have to setup the templates yourself. Get all your pre-organized content on your server and Xtract support will get it added to the CMS, thumbnailed, etc.

Truth is Xtract is an amazing CMS solution for the money. Consider the fact that maybe you were asking too much for $119. Had you purchased the pro version instead (for at least $100 less than SD), the things you had trouble with would have been done for you and you would have been given a guided tour so you would know how to use the product
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Documentation for XTract is in the works for the next upgrade which hasn't been released yet, but will in the coming weeks.

If you want some help getting it setup and not have to purchase another script, I can give you a hand. Damian is usually around to help too. He's been more than helpful to me...I owe him a dinner for that.
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Had you purchased the pro version instead (for at least $100 less than SD), the things you had trouble with would have been done for you and you would have been given a guided tour so you would know how to use the product
I don't want to get in an argument, but I find amazing that the support people at ecoderz.biz didn't tell me this when I contacted them . I have to come here to find this out...

On the other hand, Sitedepth was always answering my inquiries. At one point my videos could not be included. After checking, he let me know that the filenames were too long ... That is support.

If you read what I posted, I said that it was too bad that ecoders.biz didn't have good ( if any ) support because the product looked promising.

May I also point out that they have been claiming that a new version was supposed to be out beginning of march .. and still isn't ...
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I don't want to get in an argument, but I find amazing that the support people at ecoderz.biz didn't tell me this when I contacted them . I have to come here to find this out...
I sent you a email on 3/08/06 telling you that... and even offered you to convert your templates and install them... but you never replied to my email...

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.. la très grande majorité de nos clients ont une license >lite qui leur offre,
entre autre, un script 'walkthrough' ainsi que la conversion gratuite d'un site au 'format' xtract (pour la pro).

Si vous avez des templates/design deja pretes je peux m'arranger pour les installer et configurer votre système.
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On the other hand, Sitedepth was always answering my inquiries. At one point my videos could not be included. After checking, he let me know that the filenames were too long ... That is support.
And the reason I chose Xtract was because of all the SD support complaints on this board. Do a search.

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If you read what I posted, I said that it was too bad that ecoders.biz didn't have good ( if any ) support because the product looked promising.
Again...what exactly were you expecting for $119? You're complaining about lack of support but you chose a version which included minimal support.

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May I also point out that they have been claiming that a new version was supposed to be out beginning of march .. and still isn't ...
Doesn't look like the $119 version you bought even includes updates anyway. If you don't want an argument, why would you bring up something so trivial?

Glad SiteDepth worked out for you. I see no reason for you to continue bashing Xtract just because you cheaped out.
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I sent you a email on 3/08/06 telling you that... and even offered you to convert your templates and install them... but you never replied to my email...

I got back from Florida on the 5th of March ...


Maybe that email got picked up by my laptop ( used in Florida ) while back home I use the desktop ...

I would have taken you on that offer .

AS I said to begin with, the product looks very good... I had an issue with the support.. Letès not forget that, right after I bought, I couldnèt mnot get an answer from you guys because you were ALL gone on vacation at the same time ... ( please, don't make me dig up that email on my laptop ).

Also, your site was regularely down... ( I also emailed you about that ).

Maybe I was just unlucky ...

Now I will address the clown "widget"
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Glad SiteDepth worked out for you. I see no reason for you to continue bashing Xtract just because you cheaped out.
Again read... I must have said 20 fuckling times that there product looks good...

But my personnal experience with support was not good: they were not there.

Now, if it makes you feel better:

X-tract management is TOP NOTCH ..
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How do these CMS compare with awiz paysite manager?
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wtf are you bumping a month old thread? open a new one and ask now I had to read that shit all over again then saw its April 2006
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yea good support on SD, im working with the system right now as a matter of fact.
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Old 09-25-2006, 05:07 PM   #28
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I'm interested in SiteDepth, however, when I do a search on Google for 'sitedepth' I find a lot of pages about vulnerabilities in SiteDepth. I'm wondering what you're experiences are with SiteDepth when it comes to securtiy. I suppose it's necessary to update the script each time a new version has been released? It says on sitedepth.com: 'Automatic updates from SiteDepth.com'. Is that really the case? How automatic can script updates be? I would think that access to the server would be needed in order to upgrade the script?

Another question: I think I once read that you can not only use SiteDepth for member area's but that you can also use it to create free sites. Is that true? And is that feature common for a paysite cms?

My final question: how long did it take before you knew how to use the script?
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