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Old 04-26-2002, 02:31 PM   #51
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Fuck man! Well, I guess "School's out for summer"!
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Old 04-26-2002, 02:37 PM   #52
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if it was me... I'd choose something that makes a statement... like a flamethrower or maybe a hosing device to spray them down with hydrochloric acid.... much more visual impact, and just as efficient.
You gave up so easily?
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Old 04-26-2002, 02:56 PM   #53
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actually i ain't totally anti-gun,,just that it should be controlled,,,

not everyone should be allowed to have a weapon,,
and also not every kind of gun should be allowed,,,

Oh here we go..

heres the shit i had to go thru to get a LTC in mass.

1. have a FID (licence for a rifle) for 10 years
2. Take Firearm training courses
3. Pass accuracy test with a .22 pistol to satisfy the state police
4. pass a state police back ground check
5. pass a FBI background check
6. get fingerprinted/photgraphed/ checked for tatto's and scars
7. shit out alot of money for all that
8 wait....

Now. i got all this shit and i STILL could have been denied by the chief of police to carry a pistol for any reason from I had an attitude to he didnt like the color of my house.

So now for the rest of my life, I have little police file with my "mugshots" fingerprints, scars, tattos, height. ect ect and if i decide to move to a new town, i have to notify the police of the town im moving to and the town im moving from.. and the fucking state police.. the exact same process a fucking registered sex offender goes thru.

and to top it off, EVERY time i buy a gun I get yet another background check.

It's NOT fucking easy to get a gun.

Now explain to me why i shouldn't be able to carry whatever gun i want? This "civilians shouldnt own assault rifles" shit is garbage. an assault rifle is a *fully automatic* rifle. They are illegal to even look at unless you have the licence for it.. which would take an act of fucking god to get, u have to REALLY be someone to get it, cops get denied.
I have a semi auto SKS thats classified as an assualt rifle, the ONLY thing that makes it different from a semi-auto hunting rifle is the way it looks. There are hunting rifles that have alot more power and fire just as fast... does a pistol grip and folding stock make it more deadly? i dont fucking think so.


and while im going off... Boston has a 10 round pistol capacity limit to carry in that city... what is the fucking point? You can switch pistol mags in approx 1-1.5 seconds.. if someones on a rampage.. what the fuck is that law going to do other then make the person carry more mags.. not to mention it'd only be licenced people following the fucking law... like some assface with a stolen gun and no ltc is going to think to himself "oh FUCK, i got a 16 round clip in this beretta, i better turn around before i hit the city line" gimme a fucking break.
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Old 04-26-2002, 03:25 PM   #54
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doesn't matter.... love 'em or hate 'em, the guns didn't kill anyone. The whack jobs using them did. Guns are tools. End of story. If there were no guns, the whack jobs would have simply used a different tool to kill those people. Like bombs..... or Anthrax..... or airplanes..... or pointy sticks..... or whatever. It never fails to amaze me when I see the level of sheer idiocy in people claiming that "guns kill people!".... fucking Drano kills people too.

I've owned guns for 29 years. Got my first one at the age of 6. And none of them.... not a single one..... has ever jumped up and killed a person.
I'm fucking proud of you dude...Let me tell you a little story..After my father passed away when I was 11 I used to snoop around and used to play with his shot gun..By this time I had already learned to shoot smaller caliber guns with my uncle...When you teach your child about fire arms and how to respect and use them properly the curiosity Fades QUICK... My family always hid that shit from me instead of teaching me..This created a drive to be curious..

If my parents were more open and explained things to me about the gun and made me used to it,I would not have been curious..I taught my kids how to shoot when they were young and we go to target practice once in a great while...My kids dont see guns as people killers.. They see them as a hobbie, And thats exactly what they define in our household. Shooting is an art form and there are so many techniques and I find it very intresting..

My kids can give a shit about my guns and they have NO CURIOSITY what so ever..They dont ask to hold or see them Like I did when I was a kid. I proved my wife wrong.. MOst my family cant stand the fact I have guns in the house...It all comes down to the parent and how you teach your children...

Same with a family that went out and bought quads..They had no clue how to ride..They go out and the dad had to be hospitaized cause he flew over a canyon.. Now you have lawsuits so they start Banning shit...

You can't buy a 2-stroke quad anymore over 350cc's WHY cause there too dangerous.. They banned the Quadzilla 5oo cause it had too much power..Too many people sued Suzuki so they stopped production..THESE people were never taught how to ride.. It is not fair for others who are experienced that don't have the option anymore to go out and buy a 500.

People fuck up cause there not taught proper in the first place.. GUNS DONT KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE...

Weather it's a Gun,Knife or pots and pans.. The gun is NOT the issue here.. The Problem is this Kid's backround..More then likely His parents are fucked up...

None of my firearms in the house are loaded nor have clips in them.. None have firing pins either..I'm finatical with firearms..And my kids see that.. And you know what?? They will be the same when they grow upand have pure respect for them..IF this kid did not have a gun who would have turned to something else..Perhaps a Bomb...

I rest my case

I bet kimmy could have done this one in 2 sentences.
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Old 04-26-2002, 03:31 PM   #55
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GUNS DONT KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE...

so true!

and no, legal weapons are not a problem IMHO and shouldn't be a problem in the future either.

if that 18yr-old had the right to buy and own a weapon this probably wouldn't have happened - and we all know that weapons in wrong hands cause trouble
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Old 04-26-2002, 03:32 PM   #56
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Oh another thing I wanted to say here.. This is theory only but makes alot of sense.. So many of the things that happen here in America eventually tricle into the rest of the world..

England had a impecible reputation for there school system,Well guess what not anymore..Europe used to point there finger at how stupid Americans are and there school systems are bad.. Guess what...It's gonna hit the rest of the world..

Europe was saying those stupid Americans with there guns..You have 18 people dead now right..So what are you gonna say about that..

My point is what happens here today will eventually happen where you live.It just happens here first..But I'n sure as hell not gonna look down on Germany for what happened like some Europeans look down on USA when shit happens here..

Major reality check on this story..Thats for sure.
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Old 04-26-2002, 03:39 PM   #57
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so true!

and no, legal weapons are not a problem IMHO and shouldn't be a problem in the future either.

if that 18yr-old had the right to buy and own a weapon this probably wouldn't have happened - and we all know that weapons in wrong hands cause trouble
Yeah but you know what Brian the kid would have turned to another form of destruction.. He could have driven his car into a mc donalds.. Or built a Pipe Bomb.. Weather it was a gun or whatever..He had motive period..

Excuse all my spelling errors I suck..
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Old 04-26-2002, 04:28 PM   #58
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I would like to know who hunts with a "fully automatic" military assault rifle. No hunter I know wants to go to prison for owning a fully automatic rifle, nor have I ever known anyone to hunt with a full auto weapon. TV style propoghanda.

If my AK47 is good enough to kill another man at several hundred yards, it sure as hell is good enough to drop a deer at the same distance.
good for duck hunting

u could get the whole row of em with one fuckin spray!
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Old 04-26-2002, 06:05 PM   #59
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Oh here we go..

heres the shit i had to go thru to get a LTC in mass.

1. have a FID (licence for a rifle) for 10 years
2. Take Firearm training courses
3. Pass accuracy test with a .22 pistol to satisfy the state police
4. pass a state police back ground check
5. pass a FBI background check
6. get fingerprinted/photgraphed/ checked for tatto's and scars
7. shit out alot of money for all that
8 wait....

Now. i got all this shit and i STILL could have been denied by the chief of police to carry a pistol for any reason from I had an attitude to he didnt like the color of my house
and this is bad?

so your saying that you don't want these pre screening for potential gun owners?
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Old 04-26-2002, 06:12 PM   #60
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If my parents were more open and explained things to me about the gun and made me used to it,I would not have been curious..I taught my kids how to shoot when they were young and we go to target practice once in a great while...My kids dont see guns as people killers.. They see them as a hobbie, And thats exactly what they define in our household. Shooting is an art form and there are so many techniques and I find it very intresting..

My kids can give a shit about my guns and they have NO CURIOSITY what so ever..They dont ask to hold or see them Like I did when I was a kid. I proved my wife wrong.. MOst my family cant stand the fact I have guns in the house...It all comes down to the parent and how you teach your children...

you are what i called a responsible gun owner,,, this is how all gun owners should be,,, model gun owner

but its a shame that some ignorant gun owner do not take these percautions and end up having an accident because there kids was "CURIOUS" with it,,,


as for me i been in the military and shot practically every type of weapon there was,,

from m-16 all the way to the stinger missle,,,

i know what kind of damage there capable off and without proper training in the wrong hands in get be deadly (seen people get hurt even just cleaning a 50 cal)
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Old 04-26-2002, 06:50 PM   #61
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theres a reason police use guns instead of grenades or hydrochloric acid

also snow, those europeans will just blame the US for giving the german kid the idea.. that the sickness is spreading through our sensationalist world media and american cultural hegemony...

they can prise my air rifle from my dead lifeless hands
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Old 04-26-2002, 06:57 PM   #62
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theres a reason police use guns instead of grenades or hydrochloric acid
there's also a reason the military uses claymores and napalm.
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there's also a reason the military uses claymores and napalm.
theres a reason why claymores and napalm aren't ideal weapons in a school situation.
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Old 04-26-2002, 07:03 PM   #64
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There's a reason I always lose one sock when I do laundry.

I just haven't found it yet. I think the washing machine eats them, but I can't prove it.
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Old 04-26-2002, 07:06 PM   #65
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There's a reason I always lose one sock when I do laundry.

I just haven't found it yet. I think the washing machine eats them, but I can't prove it.
don't they hatch in the washing machine and become empty coat hangers in your wardrobe?
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Old 04-26-2002, 07:11 PM   #66
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theres a reason why claymores and napalm aren't ideal weapons in a school situation.
agreed... I think propane bombs are actually much more ideal for a school setting.
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