I guess it wasnt 50 sorry. Alright that was strange I guess it is 50.

owning money sucks... And not getting money you should have is even worse...

did anyone see teh dates if these ICQs ??

2003/2004 why wait till now.

Read my answers then you're allowed to type again. :upsidedow

Looks like you paid for his trip to Italy for the Olympics, as well as paying for his fat ass to get laid.

Sorry to hear he ripped you off.

Regardless of dates and all the other shit .. point is that he bought the content and didn't get it.

Who in their right mind shoots exclusive content and sends the originals to the client without making any backups.

THAT IS THE DUMBEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD.

He probably does have backups but may have sold that content to someone else so now he can't give it to you as exclusive and doesn't want to take the time to shoot all new stuff for you.

I really hope you get your money or the content. This is bullshit.

$5000 is a lot of money for stuff you didn't get. You have a lot more patience than me and good luck getting what you are owed.

Adam, there is WAY more to this story dude, don't believe everything you read on GFY

What's way more? What am I not explaining dude? The last package arrived with 4 scenes missing. Granted I waited a long time but don't think I didnt contact him every month for a long while with nothing done. Joe probably knows hes wrong he's offering me $3000 worth of content from amacontent but Im not accepting that bullshit. I want my $5000 or my 4 content scenes. He also says hes going to counter sue me for slander on this board when Ive done nothing but state the facts. Granted you cant believe everything you read on the board but not about this. I just want whats rightfully mine and right now Im getting fucked hard by this.

No matter who it is, or what it is about, I think it is silly for people to believe something that is one sided. My point is just that Joe doesn'tpost on here except to draw business, and for good reason, this place is filled with non-webmasters and barely any business at all....so him not posting has nothing to do with you, it has to do with not getting sucked into the drama of gfy....and for anyone to come in this thread and believe only a single side of something is just unprofessional and not a proper way of getting the full story

I suggest anyone that knows Joe's icq or email him and get his side of the story also

fact remains though, this is drama between Joe and you that needs to be settles in a court of law, and anyone interfering is just nosey or can't live without some daily drama....and well, that is just plain sad

I understand I can agree with you on these points you're actually right. The simple fact is that I wanted to spare myself court costs by trying to go public but now since this doesn't seem to be working I definitely need to go to court.

He doesnt have a side of the story though and Im sick of the bullshit that he tells me. He says he sent me the master tapes for all 7 and I got 3. Its bullshit and Im not going to put up with it any longer.

I agree 100%....I think anyone that claims to have been ripped off for that much money needs to be filing some sort of court docs....

More facts are that he shoots good content and people will probably still go about their normal business dealings with him. Nothing will probably change because of my thread. Thats why Im using common sense and not going around saying dont use joe he sucks he fucked me because that's stupid. that doesnt change the fact that im left here alone and i was screwed. And its my word against his that I recieved the one package with only 3 tapes. Although I do have proof he said he mailed two packages and fedex specifically said only one package was mailed.

I've done plenty of business with joe. he never wronged me. Could this posibly be a misunderstanding?

DUke

No and believe me I dont know why it has to be like this either. All that happened was I didnt get 4 scenes and he told me he would make it right and didnt.

Because I keep saying to him I only got 3 scenes and he keeps saying no I sent the 7 masters. But thats not true because I didnt recieve 7. But he doesnt want to believe me on that. Its also weird because he said two packages with 3 scenes and 4 scenes were sent. I got one package with 3 scenes. Fedex said only one package was shipped. Maybe he meant 2 packages within that one big package I dont know but all I know is I didnt get it and he's not doing anything for me but offering me $3000 worth of non exclusive content.

So where the hell is that chubby bitch.

ahhhh weekend afternoon drama!!!

I made a similar post a few weeks ago if you guys remember, and it got somewhat settled... so I hope this works out for you too ry0t!

I am not one to post in "drama" threads, but don't you state in your ICQ log that "someone" might have stolen it while it was at your door step? Just that possibility will give a Judge reason to not order Joe to pay you anything.:2 cents:

bottom line is that he didnt get hsi content, so he deserves his money back.

hmmm no reply yet?

He is online, he just contacted me on ICQ to tell me he's not chubby anymore.

What a special threatment, Ryot you paid for his diet bro. :pimp

Btw I put him on ignore. :1orglaugh

How do you know he didnt get his fucking content. Do you live next door to him. Are you his brother and happened to be there when he opened fed ex. DO you have cameras pointing at his house.

Ryot , send me invoices and cancelled checks and I will do what my attorney says.

And youre just full of hate because I fired you because of shitty product you delivered to me.

I can identify with that:Oh crap
I hope this gets resolved

You fired me? Now this is all new to me Joe. But then again, we all know you are full of lies. I quit working with you since you were such annoying person to deal with in the first place. :)

But keep on spreading the lies man.

were you a graphic designer for him? nice logos you got

2003????

Yeah i guess im annoying when i expect to get a design im happy with. You begged me to keep using you.

Thanks man. I did some work for him when I just started in the adult design.

Joe you know damn well YOU NEVER sent me invoices. We only talked on ICQ and I gave you wire's from my bank. So what now? And fuck that I live in a house in a safe neighborhood no one stole my shit Joe you just didnt send me shit.

You're probably right. This dude probably got the content but bothered you about not getting it for years just so he could make you give him a refund. Nevermind that he'd be stuck with content he could never use without you blowing fire up his ass or the fact that doing the above is pointless in every other way as well.

Why don't you just make the shit right and go on with your life?

5000 is a lot of money, I hope you get this sorted out.:2 cents:

Normaly when someone sends you a package thats worth a lot of $.. I make sure UPS has them sign for the package or it's shipped back.

Yup he didnt do that but I was there when the guy came to the door because at the time I was anxious to get all my stuff ready. To be honest I got real depressed when I didnt have this shit so it was one of the reasons I never got the site up because I said forget it because I dont have all my shit. Now look where I am. 3 years later and this sucks. Im still getting it live though I will not stop my dream.

Can't steal one package out of two if only one was shipped (and received) :

Yeah nothing is really getting taken care of here at all. Its just Joe man.. you said in 5 weeks you would look into your records. It took me two days to keep messaging you to even get you to respond. Even then you didnt look into this for me. Why dude? I dont understand why this is so hard.

This is my last bump sorry if I'm annoying. I'm filing the court papers this week.

good luck

Interesting ...

Again why hadn't you inquired about this 6 months ago, or 8 months ago, or a year ago .. Time is a great importance .. Once you waited more then a year ... Your story starts to sound a little Iffy ... You should of delt with it There and then ...

and 18000 $ contract isn't peanuts iether

Also the fact that you never launched the site makes me wonder even more .. You've left the content sitting all time ???

Joe, Why hasn't he delt with this? Maybe cus there wasn't enough Info or proof .. How long after the package was recieved did the client make this discovery ? A day? a month?

I am so very confused by this ...

The Time factor seems to take presidance here
I'm very confused here

Retarded? Probably right after he fucking opened it.

send the mafiabucks crew after him

I recieved the package and opened it the same day to find 3 scenes and wondering where the rest was. I got online immediately and contacted Joe on icq and he gave me that ICQ log that you see. Saying 'I shipped them all but if I didnt I'll take the heat etc' As you see he said he will contact me after he finds out if another customer has my shipment by mistake. His story changes because he said he shipped me two packages but fedex says only one was shipped. Then he says he shipped one package and the other might of gone to another of his customers by accident. I contacted him often about it. He told me he would re shoot the scenes so I wasnt worried. I waited a long time and yes all the content that I have has not been doing anything. All the girls are probably on other sites by now but that's my fault and really not apart of this story. I was concerned then 3 years ago that there wasnt enough proof, its my word against his that I didnt recieve the content. And that still stands 3 years later but this time I'm trying my best to do everything I can to get what's mine. I was very frustrated and mad when I saw there was missing content in my package and from the beginning Joe said I was not being truthful and he sent everything out. That is what makes me more furious than anything. $5000 is not a small number to be missing. I'm trying to explain myself the best that I can, I owe it to you guys since I did come here and make this public. I do understand why it's hard to believe because it's been long.

So Joe started an inguiry immediately and has never Discounted the fact that you didn t receive these missing scenes...

There is nothing retarded about getting the facts straight ..

IF you have been paying attention .. According to Joe s Posts on this thread, he refuses to believe the scenes were not delivered ...
Actually he seems to pussy foot arround that actual statement

I think I explained myself pretty well. That's all I can do.

I don't know - but we keep copies of all exclusive sets and clips we send out to customers. and if a parcel gets lost, we burn the stuff again and send it.

:2 cents:

:thumbsup

He sent me masters or so he says. Im not sure if they got filmed but who knows. He didnt put insurance on the fedex which was not cool either. I bet he learned what to do now that he's been in this business for awhile. He's not on icq calling me all sorts of names like little dweeb and that he's going to sue me for slander. I am not resorting to childish bullshit only he is. I want what's rightfully mine and I'm not going to deal with the bullshit anymore. He just said 'your mommy know youre online trying to scam people' that's because he knows I took money from my moms loan to pay for my adult site going live that was 3 years ago though so he's throwing that all in my face. We will see when this goes to court.