:BangBang: :feels-hot


:mad: that's what I feel.....

I'll explain it the 1000000 time for today....

It's not russian sites! They are mostly UKRAINIAN SITES!

Problem is that they nearly all end in RU.......

And the point remains that nobody (well, very few) in this thread are saying you would or do cheat but are just stating the reasons behind being cautious with any Russian site/WM - your original question. And believe me you ARE underestimating the number of Russian WM's that cheat hugely. This is all of Russia not just Ukraine. It is a huge shame but is true nevertheless. They know they are fairly safe from any type of legal action so they cheat.

This is not to say every Russian WM/site cheats but by far the majority do. You may well be a good example of one that doesn't. Unfortunately due to the way my sites work traffic in is big but exit is fairly small so I probably can't try you out.

On the CP issue with the exception of the 'legal' nude teen shit (fuck that stuff needs to be banned) just about all hardcore CP is hosted in Russia. You only have to try playing the toplists and see the amount of Russian sites you end up on with real CP shit. This may be Ukraine or may not be - it is too hard to tell the difference.

Again, few in the thread are doubting you. I think your actions so far would tempt me to try you in a small way if I had enough exits. Oh - and the .org isn't a good move. There's a shit load of .coms still as there's no reason to use a 3 letter domain just be creative with the name it'll pay off in the long term.

another good reason why

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=58167

The difference between Russia and Ukraine is that it's absolutely 2 different countries.
And concerning CP locations. Why are you so sure, that they are all hosted in Russia? Did you check the hosters or what?
As I remember, someone mentioned here, that Russian CPs are hosted in U.S.! Not in Russia. Do you know why? Because most of hosting companies in Moscow are official ones, and they will never allow CP on their hosts! NEVER!

And also, how russian webmasters cheat you? Which way?

So what? Dmitry - is not only russian name, afaik.
And also, it's just one post... It doesn't proove anything.

See? There's that fucking "the rules don't apply to me" attitude that was mentioned above. I see it every day here in NY with my programmers or any other Russian I come across that's looking for money from me.

All the good domains are sold out :waaaaahh
I have no money for hosting :waaaaahh
Content is too expensive :waaaaahh
All Russians are not cheaters :waaaaahh

I'm sorry, ELK but you've just lost the game again. :321GFY

First of all. It wasn't my personal idea to buy this domains. I came here, when they were already bought. So i have no idea about why did they choose these ones. And, concerning rules. Ok. I agree with you. But i read a lot of articles, where I saw the phrase "these rules are not actual now anymore". And there's no such limitations anymore. It's not a law, afaik.

oh... i love russian wms.... atleast they dont upload warez so often....

Ok. Anyway, i'm going home from work now.
So, let's talk tomorrow...

Yeah, and you know why? ;-)
Because it's useless for them. They can find all warez on CDs in the open sale.... Piracy, you know...

The thread is to long to read!!!

Anyways I would just like to state that I've got nothing against russians infact I enjoy working with them.
For the past 3 months I've had most of my coding and gfx work done by a russian company and I've been very impressed with it.

So if you are a russian and keep getting canned by other progs then check out http://www.sugarcash.com

We won't can you just because of your nationality.

he already admitted that he was russian - when i asked him

my family hates me because i'm an russian adult webmaster :Graucho

Hmmm....I think the fact that many CP sites either end RU or are on servers located in Russia sort of gives if away. I can understand you getting defensive about yourself but you seem to be also trying to defend all the cheating bastards. There are 100's of ways to cheat from hitbots to stolen cards and between them many Russian WM's use the lot. And before you say it again yes people from the rest of the world do cheat but the % is FAR smaller.

You sound like a sleazy used car salesman.


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I've always believed you shouldn't ask a question if the answer will only piss you off. This thread seems a case in point

Oh stop it, now you're starting to blame Ukrainian wm's just as most of us blame you?

wow, 98 posts in this thread BEFORE I even add MY thoughts.
hahahaha

ELK, you simply a moron by saying Ukraine and Russia are different countries, I know you trying to make your image better(or to look better) by putting all that shit on other sholders...

And what the fuck you got against Ukrainians ? Ukranians are exactly same as russians, there is no difference ....

What are you talking about?

I love Arnold.

Ukraine and Russia are the same pile 'o poo to me

Hello guys , look it in other way: US and Canada invited Russians to play hockey (not to many local talents) and from my experience 40-60% of computer programmers who working in N.America are from Soviet Union , China and India and they paid not less then a locals.
:winkwink:

mic, that's exactly why usa goes to space "seccesfully" now :)

Does that mean you're not going to weigh in here?? :(

I blame them for CP sites creation, not for cheating.
That's much easier to proove, that to find out cheaters.
That's just a fact. I don't want to tell that all Ukranian WM are CP WM. But most of CP webmasters are from there.

Well. But that's just a fact.. Ukraine and Russia - are different countries. Ukranians and Russians are different people. May be they are the same from your point of view. But it's just a fact... All nations are different. In mentality....

It's not only your personal experience. It's just an official fact.

:thumbsup

I know, sorry...

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I wonder, why all CP sites using russian girls content (8-14 y.o)
can you explain ELK?

How do you know that they are russian girls?
If it's just writtern "russian girls/e.t.c." it doesn't mean anything. It can be ukranian girls as well. Since Russia is much "popular" in the world, than Ukraine, so...
Actualy, in most cases it's just a way to make money, telling that it's RUSSIAN. It may be a lie, but ...

So just one question how can you proove, that it's really russian girls?

2 ELK: (some dirty words on russian )

WTF! Âîò òû ðàçâåë òåëåãó... Êàêàÿ íàõ ðàçíèöà åñëè êòî-òî íå õî÷åò ðàáîòàòü ñ ðóññêèìè... âîîáùå èìõî äàâíî óæå òàêîãî íåò, âåðíåå âñòðå÷àþòñÿ îòäåëüíûå èíäèâèäóóìû, íî âñå ðåæå... Ðàáîòàé ñ òåìè , êòî õî÷åò ðàáîòàòü ñ òîáîé è âñå áóäåò â íîðìå... Êàê òû äóìàåøü åñëè áû ïðèøåë íà êðóòîï èëè òàì ìàñòåð èêñ êàêîé-íèáóäü êèòàåö è íà÷àë áû ïèñàòü ìîë êàêîãî õðåíà âû ñ êèòàéöàìè íå ðàáîòàåòå, ôëåéì áû åùå ïîõëåùå áûë... è ïðè÷åì çäåñü óêðàèíöû (ìåæäó ðóññêèìè è óêðàèíöàìè äåéñòâèòåëüíî íåò îñîáîé ðàçíèöû ìåíòàëèòåòà)

Êîðî÷å, åñëè òû ïèøåøü çà èäåþ, òî áðîñàé ýòó õðåíü, ïîäîáíûå òîïèêè íàîáîðîò îïóñêàþò ðóññêèõ. À åñëè òàê ÷òîáû ïîñïàìèòü è îòæàòü DVD òî ïðîäîëæàé è óäà÷è!

:feels-hot

ELK my friend:

It's all about risk assessment, there are so many opportunities on the Adult Industry so if one is to decide whether to take the chance and do business with a Russian WM he's instantly adding the risk of dealing with a cheater, at this point, when our market is flooded with WMs he'll just give up the risk and at the same time, give up the Russians :)

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2 RussianSubmitter: (some dirty words on russian)

Íàñ÷åò óêðàèíöåâ - ëàäíî, â áàíþ ýòó òåìó. :) Ðå÷ü òîëüêî î òîì, ÷òî òàì î÷åíü ìíîãî CP. Ýòî ïðîñòî êàê áû ôàêò.

À ïèøó ÿ ïî áîëüøåé ÷àñòè íå çà èäåþ, à èìåííî ÷òîáû ïîñïàìèòü ;) Èäåÿ áûëà ñíà÷àëà ;)

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ok.... :( but is there any chance to fix this situation?

Be honest, stay honest and build YOURELF a good reputation. Fuck all the other Russian WM's as all most have achieved is to make life very difficult for you. If you keep plugging away (and lose the .org :winkwink: ) it will happen.

ok.
btw, concerning .org.
There was a post with 2 .org URLs.
Just for a few minutes. And then it suddenly disappears.
What happened?

translation please

uh.. here's the translation from PROMT online translator :)

WTF! You have dissolved a cart... What a difference if someone does not want to work with Russian... In general IMHO for a long time already such is not present, there are separate individuals, but all less often more truly... Work with those who wants to work with you and all will be in norm... As you think if the master-x any chinese has come on crutop (russian adult forums) or there and would start to write what pier of a horse-radish you do not work with chinese , the flame still was even worse... And and here ukrainians (between Russian and ukrainians) really there is no special difference of mentality) More shortly if you write for idea throw this shit, similar topics n the contrary lower(omit) Russian. And if so that spam and to wring out DVD that continue also good luck!

:Graucho
:Kissmy

Well, to get a DVD I'd also dissolve a cart, and maybe even pier a horse-radish while I'm at it :)