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qwe · 02-28-2006, 10:15 PM

if i'm buying let's say Western Digital Raptor 74GB SATA 10000RPM 8MB 4.5MS Hard Drive ... what else to I need to buy to run SATA ? or you just plug that into IDE cable ?

also what if i buy Fujitsu MAU3036NP 36.7GB 15,000 RPM SCSI Ultra320 68pin Hard Drive - OEM ... i need to buy scsi controller ?like this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16816103131
?

qwe · 02-28-2006, 10:18 PM

will this http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...acture=Adaptec

work for Fujitsu MAU3036NP 36.7GB 15,000 RPM SCSI Ultra320 68pin Hard Drive - OEM

?

Slick · 02-28-2006, 10:26 PM

I'm not an expert in this, so people can correct me if I'm wrong, but here's my take on the matter. If you pick up a SATA drive, you definately need a motherboard with SATA ports, you CAN'T hook it up through an IDE cable.

As far as the SCSI goes, if this is a home computer, I wouldn't bother with it, if it's for something server related, then that's a whole other ballgame.

Back to the SCSI subject. I believe it'd be harder to find a decent motherboard for a home pc with SCSI on it. There is however other options like buying a PCI SCSI card, but definately don't do that because what happens is that if you have a sound card or something else running on those PCI slots, it's gonna load down your "bus" and you're gonna get sound loss at times when activity is heavy (I know from personal experience).

If I were you and you wanted a 10K drive, definately go with the Raptors, RAID them if you need more space than the 74 GB.

Definately keep in mind that there's lots of HUGE drives out there that are only 7200 RPM that do have 16mb buffers which definately make them a little faster than the norm.

Sosa · 02-28-2006, 10:29 PM

SATA drive you will need a montheboard with SATA connectors. Also make sure the drive comes with the SATA cable and also the power cable.

qwe · 02-28-2006, 10:30 PM

i got P4P800 pentirum motheboard, can it take Western Digital Raptor 74GB SATA 10000RPM ?? also do i need to buy sata controller or something?

qwe · 02-28-2006, 10:33 PM

p4p800 specs

Storage
RAID Level RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 10, JBOD
Controller Interface Type DMA/ATA-133 (Ultra) Fast Drives
Storage Controller RAID
Storage Controller (2nd) IDE
Controller (2nd) Interface Type Serial ATA-150/DMA/ATA-100(Ultra)

im guessing Serial ATA-150 is sata150 ?

qwe · 02-28-2006, 10:50 PM

bump.....

Sosa · 02-28-2006, 11:23 PM

yeah your board has the sata connections. Just make sure when you buy the drive it comes with the cables etc.

qwe · 02-28-2006, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sosa

yeah your board has the sata connections. Just make sure when you buy the drive it comes with the cables etc.

thx

im thinking to order from here http://search.ncix.com/displayproduc...tern%20Digital

but im not sure about the cables, doesnt say anything... what if it doesnt come with them, what kind do i need to buy ?

EdgeXXX · 02-28-2006, 11:28 PM

You're fine. I run multiple Raptors on my systems, so I am quite familiar with the drives as well as Serial-ATA itself. The Raptor will come with the SATA data cable and I believe it comes with a SATA power adapter in case your PSU doesn't have SATA power connectors (Doesn't really matter though because the Raptors can take SATA power connectors OR legacy power connectors).

qwe · 02-28-2006, 11:37 PM

also people saying if you have 2 of them to run it as raid 0... means if 1 goes bad other takes its place ? like it copies data to 2nd drive ?

02-28-2006, 10:15 PM	#1
qwe Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,109	computer ppl need help if i'm buying let's say Western Digital Raptor 74GB SATA 10000RPM 8MB 4.5MS Hard Drive ... what else to I need to buy to run SATA ? or you just plug that into IDE cable ? also what if i buy Fujitsu MAU3036NP 36.7GB 15,000 RPM SCSI Ultra320 68pin Hard Drive - OEM ... i need to buy scsi controller ?like this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16816103131 ?

02-28-2006, 10:26 PM	#3
Slick Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houghton, MI Posts: 7,338	I'm not an expert in this, so people can correct me if I'm wrong, but here's my take on the matter. If you pick up a SATA drive, you definately need a motherboard with SATA ports, you CAN'T hook it up through an IDE cable. As far as the SCSI goes, if this is a home computer, I wouldn't bother with it, if it's for something server related, then that's a whole other ballgame. Back to the SCSI subject. I believe it'd be harder to find a decent motherboard for a home pc with SCSI on it. There is however other options like buying a PCI SCSI card, but definately don't do that because what happens is that if you have a sound card or something else running on those PCI slots, it's gonna load down your "bus" and you're gonna get sound loss at times when activity is heavy (I know from personal experience). If I were you and you wanted a 10K drive, definately go with the Raptors, RAID them if you need more space than the 74 GB. Definately keep in mind that there's lots of HUGE drives out there that are only 7200 RPM that do have 16mb buffers which definately make them a little faster than the norm. Last edited by Slick; 02-28-2006 at 10:28 PM..

02-28-2006, 11:28 PM	#10
EdgeXXX Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Secretely plotting a hostile takeover Posts: 5,816	You're fine. I run multiple Raptors on my systems, so I am quite familiar with the drives as well as Serial-ATA itself. The Raptor will come with the SATA data cable and I believe it comes with a SATA power adapter in case your PSU doesn't have SATA power connectors (Doesn't really matter though because the Raptors can take SATA power connectors OR legacy power connectors). __________________ . . . . I have a sig

02-28-2006, 10:18 PM	#2
qwe Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,109	will this http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...acture=Adaptec work for Fujitsu MAU3036NP 36.7GB 15,000 RPM SCSI Ultra320 68pin Hard Drive - OEM ?

02-28-2006, 10:29 PM	#4
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	SATA drive you will need a montheboard with SATA connectors. Also make sure the drive comes with the SATA cable and also the power cable.

02-28-2006, 10:30 PM	#5
qwe Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,109	i got P4P800 pentirum motheboard, can it take Western Digital Raptor 74GB SATA 10000RPM ?? also do i need to buy sata controller or something?

02-28-2006, 10:33 PM	#6
qwe Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,109	p4p800 specs Storage RAID Level RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 10, JBOD Controller Interface Type DMA/ATA-133 (Ultra) Fast Drives Storage Controller RAID Storage Controller (2nd) IDE Controller (2nd) Interface Type Serial ATA-150/DMA/ATA-100(Ultra) im guessing Serial ATA-150 is sata150 ?

02-28-2006, 10:50 PM	#7
qwe Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,109	bump.....

02-28-2006, 11:23 PM	#8
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	yeah your board has the sata connections. Just make sure when you buy the drive it comes with the cables etc.

02-28-2006, 11:37 PM	#11
qwe Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,109	also people saying if you have 2 of them to run it as raid 0... means if 1 goes bad other takes its place ? like it copies data to 2nd drive ?