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Old 04-24-2002, 08:41 PM   #1
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about ccbill

Hey guys I have been using ccbill for over a year now I love the support they have and kimmykim has gone way out of her way to help but.... there is allways a butt I have been hearing that alot of webmasters are swtiching cc companys due to the scrubbing they do. IS This correct? I hear once they signup like to jettis there sales go way up? IM in no way putting ccbill down at all. I would rather keep them but shit I got to see more sales or something hehe... Thanks a bunch
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Old 04-24-2002, 08:54 PM   #2
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ccbill mails me all denials so I can see how many get scrubbed.
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Old 04-24-2002, 08:54 PM   #3
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Old 04-24-2002, 08:55 PM   #4
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I'm doing just as bad with ibill sites as I am with ccbill sites
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Old 04-24-2002, 09:16 PM   #5
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Great That makes more sence and makes my mind up Ill stick with them thanks guys and kimmy <hides> Dont hurt me pwease
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Old 04-24-2002, 09:26 PM   #6
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Scrubbing is a good thing at times! Yes, Jettus approves more people from what I have seen, but they also have a high return ratio. They like giving people their money back, so it isn't as viable if you are running a per signup program. The higher the scrubbing, the better on those!
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Old 04-24-2002, 09:34 PM   #7
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also if they're approving more and giving more refunds that means more people are getting freebies. which = more bandwidth costs.
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Old 04-24-2002, 09:45 PM   #8
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Oh yea I agree with the scrubbing just didnt know if they were going overboard or not :/ but ya all helped me decide. also It proilly isnt them its prolly my shitty sales pitch. BUT thats ok it will get better
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Old 04-24-2002, 10:14 PM   #9
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ccbill mails me all denials so I can see how many get scrubbed.
Do they give a reason for a denial...?
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Old 04-24-2002, 10:26 PM   #10
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Do they give a reason for a denial...?
Yes, and most of the time it is human error, and they get it right the second or third time, LOL.

here is a few of the Emails Some IFO Blocked..

You are receiving this email to let you know that Blocked NAME
attempted to subscribe to account 918194-0000
and was declined due to Invalid Card Number.
Customer Name: Blocked
E-mail address: Blocked

Thank You.
************************************************** ********

You are receiving this email to let you know that Blocked
attempted to subscribe to account 916418-0000
and was declined due to Invalid Name On Card Provided, Please Use Only Characters.
Customer Name: Blocked
E-mail address: Blocked

Thank You.
************************************************** ********

You are receiving this email to let you know that BLOCKED
attempted to subscribe to account 918194-0000
and was declined due to Invalid State Provided For The Country You Have Selected.


and all the declined insuf funds
wrong number from the back
stuff like that
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Old 04-24-2002, 10:51 PM   #11
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Great That makes more sence and makes my mind up Ill stick with them thanks guys and kimmy <hides> Dont hurt me pwease
Why not use both and give your surfers an option?

I am beginning to think like every thing in life people get used to things, and when someone signs up for a CC Bill it makes it easier for them to sign up for another CC Bill site one day.

I also, personally think, that if someone is burned by iBill or if they have had a bad experience with CC Bill it wont matter which you use, its all personal experience. But if you gave that surfer the option, he would join your site, but not with iBill or CC Bill, whoever burned him... or if the last CC Bill site he joined sucked ass.

Despite the bad marks regarding Paypal and holding funds blah blah blah, I added it as a payment option to a member site, and I make more on the Paypal sign ups than CC BIll, I am also thinking of adding different processing methods to give surfers the option to choose, If I put all my trust in CC Bill as the only option for my site, I would have cut myself out of hundreds of dollars a week... and thousands per year.

Your surfers are the ones you should be worried about how they feel about processors.

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Old 04-24-2002, 10:56 PM   #12
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hey that isnt a bad fucking idea there holy shit I got good info from gfy < is in shock> I signed up with pay pall but I do not have any idea on how to set it up through my .htacess file anyone know how to do this?
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Old 04-24-2002, 11:13 PM   #13
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We need an option to PayPal for billing. We only want to clear the final ammount, not a fixed ammount or the CC companies shopping basket on our site.

Will CCBill do for this?

Someone got there number? Or any other suggestions.
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Old 04-24-2002, 11:42 PM   #14
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kimmykim will thrash you now as soon as she is done mopping up the blood from her perpetual period.....
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Old 04-24-2002, 11:45 PM   #15
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Old 04-24-2002, 11:48 PM   #16
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so you enjoy throwing money down the drain? 2.4% is all anyone should ever take from you.
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Old 04-25-2002, 12:16 AM   #17
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hey that isnt a bad fucking idea there holy shit I got good info from gfy < is in shock> I signed up with pay pall but I do not have any idea on how to set it up through my .htacess file anyone know how to do this?
i have been trying for months to figure out that paypal script.
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Old 04-25-2002, 12:26 AM   #18
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I was thinking about testing this script out but have not got around to it. If anyone wants to test it and let me know how it goes I would be greatly appreciative (for what that is fucking worth)

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Old 04-25-2002, 05:00 AM   #19
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I discovered just the other day (doh! It's probably been possible for quite some time) that ccbill makes it very easy to add a check box on my signup page where I say:

Join our mailing list: [Ckeck box]


And then a little PHP script I wrote joins the surfer to our list as part of the payment proces. Cool!

(My point is that ccbill is pretty good because of their flexibility like that)
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Old 04-26-2002, 11:48 AM   #20
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kimmykim will thrash you now as soon as she is done mopping up the blood from her perpetual period.....
That's your job, moron. Or perhaps you're too busy tooling around in your sissy car to do any work?

Tom,
Trying out different processors is a wise idea for any business, and having at least two on board is critical to getting the most thruput you can.

As for our scrubbing? The average account has 10% or fewer declines due to scrubbing. The bank declines, surfer error declines, etc account for the other 90% of the average account.

Something else to think about is pre-sorting your surfers by IP country.

If you know CCBill or someone else doesn't take a particular country, why even offer them the chance to be declined? Sort them out, send them to a dialer, to Paypal, whatever as their primary join option, it only makes sense.

Sorry it took me so long to reply, I guess I missed it the other day.
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