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websiex 02-23-2006 10:39 PM

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He palms the cards into his right hand and drops them off the edge of the table.
I was thinking that too since it is the only logical explanation, but that would mean that the guy with the microphone was in on it... I'll just assume he is Tenkai palming them off...

BoyAlley 02-23-2006 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TexasDreams
http://www.texasdreams.com/anallube.jpg
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I can make my fist disappear using that stuff...... :winkwink:

volante 02-23-2006 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by websiex
I was thinking that too since it is the only logical explanation, but that would mean that the guy with the microphone was in on it... I'll just assume he is Tenkai palming them off...

If you ever see a magician performing a trick in front of spectators and you wonder if one or more of the spectators are in on the trick, they usually are.

volante 02-23-2006 10:46 PM

A question for BoyAlley - I have very long, skinny fingers (think of the "facehugger" in Alien). Where can I get a decent thumbtip? The Vernet thumbtip I've got is a bit obvious.

DeanCapture 02-23-2006 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by volante
If you ever see a magician performing a trick in front of spectators and you wonder if one or more of the spectators are in on the trick, they usually are.

I saw David Copperfield perform in Memphis and I had tickets to two shows. In both shows he went out in the audience looking for an assistant and both times he picked the same girl. Although he asks the girl "have we ever met before" and the girl answers "no"....that was a complete lie. If you believe the lies, he's already fooled you :1orglaugh

BoyAlley 02-23-2006 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by volante
A question for BoyAlley - I have very long, skinny fingers (think of the "facehugger" in Alien). Where can I get a decent thumbtip? The Vernet thumbtip I've got is a bit obvious.

I'm the same way that you are, long slender fingers, which was a HUGE advantage to me in slight of hand.

You know what I ended up doing? Buying one the CHEAPEST versions that I could find and using a lighter on the end of it to melt the plastic some and stretch and shape the tip. Just don't put the heat source too close to the tip or you'll blacken it. Did the job just fine!

All of the guys thought I spent a fortune on a custom molded prop. :thumbsup

buddyjuf 02-23-2006 10:53 PM

Good stuff BoyAlley!!! :thumbsup

reed_4 02-23-2006 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider Ninja
who was the best magician?

http://www.firstscience.com/SITE/IMA...27/blaines.jpg
For me it's David Blaine.:thumbsup

Downtime 02-23-2006 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley
With a fleshlight.

lol da da dum

Fucksakes 02-23-2006 11:06 PM

any good online sites to learn some basic tricks to impress friends?

BusterBunny 02-23-2006 11:06 PM

david blaine not eating is not magic and i think its time to toss on some 50cent
http://www.ooze.com/finger/assets/images/coverorig.jpg

JuiceMonkey 02-23-2006 11:09 PM

hook up a link to something for a noob to learn.. or a couple of easy "party tricks"

websiex 02-23-2006 11:09 PM

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any good online sites to learn some basic tricks to impress friends?
Google Ultimate Magic

polster 02-23-2006 11:17 PM

All those guys that do street magic use actors as there crowd. Ever notice in the street magic its allways only 5 or less people around the magician.. There all in on the trick. I.e the levitation trick is basically crowd reaction shots then editing with some editer app to make it look like the guy is floating. That trick is never done live for a reason.

dpw 02-23-2006 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JuiceMonkey
hook up a link to something for a noob to learn.. or a couple of easy "party tricks"

I second that! :thumbsup

BoyAlley 02-23-2006 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JuiceMonkey
hook up a link to something for a noob to learn.. or a couple of easy "party tricks"

A Trick That You Can Learn

I'm often asked by people if there are ways to "fool their friends" and if I can teach them some "party tricks that will really floor people". WITHOUT A DOUBT the #1 thing that a novice can take some time to learn, that will fool people just as well as magicians that have spent years mastering complex slight of hand techniques, is the "card force".

Virtually EVERY CARD TRICK that you've ever seen involves a "force".

What's a force?

Basically it's a slight of hand technique that a magician uses to "force" the spectator to pick a playing card of his choosing. Once you know in advance what card a spectator is going to pick, you can perform any number of variants of an effect, including "mind reading", having the chosen card "predicted" by writing it's name in a sealed envelop, etc. etc.

There are literally HUNDREDS of ways to "force" a card, some more obvious than others, and some taking WAY more practice than others.

One of the easier card forces to master is called the Slip Riffle. I found this link which does a pretty good job teaching it:

http://allmagic.com/magicshow/cards/slipriffle.html

It might take a week of you fucking around with a deck of cards to get it down pat, but once you do you have a lifetime ahead of you to freak people out at the poker table!

:winkwink: :winkwink: :winkwink:

volante 02-23-2006 11:49 PM

Here's how to make a card placed on the back of your hand begin to curl up without being touched - this works great in pubs or with friends who are drinking, and is unbelievably easy to do. What you do is secretly wet the back of your hand by wiping it on the condensation on a beer bottle or cold glass, then just place the card lengthways on the back of your hand. The moisure and heat from your hand will cause the laminate on the card to warp, forcing the card to curl slightly while it sits on your hand. It takes about 30-60 seconds, and adjusting the angle of your hand makes it appear more pronounced. Spectators WILL see the card bending before their eyes without it being touched.

Then challenge the spectators to try the same - unless they wet the back of their hand first, it won't work.

jrap 02-23-2006 11:52 PM

very cool thread !

I've always been interested in sleight of hand tricks, but never had the patience to learn. Instead I just shuffle cards all day while I sit in front of the computer.

SlamDesigns 02-23-2006 11:52 PM

I can't fucking believe that you are sitting here telling all the secrets. As a card carrying member of both the S.A.M. and the I.B.M. I am totally appalled to see "one of our own" revealing our most trusted secrets!




































Just kidding. Actually I used to be a member of I.B.M....and my dad was in the Order of the Merlin, but I have long since quit giving a shit about prestidigitation. BTW, if you were in S.A.M., did you ever go to any of the MagiFests in Ohio?

clickhappy 02-23-2006 11:52 PM

how does David Blaine levitate?
the same way that other guy did? I always thought it was weird that they only show his feet on camera, not the rest of his body.
I mean he bould be pulling himself up on a chin up bar and the camera wouldnt catch it.

volante 02-23-2006 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by clickhappy
how does David Blaine levitate?
the same way that other guy did? I always thought it was weird that they only show his feet on camera, not the rest of his body.
I mean he bould be pulling himself up on a chin up bar and the camera wouldnt catch it.

http://www.magiclearn.50megs.com/photo2.html

reynold 02-23-2006 11:59 PM

kindly illuminate our puzzled minds on David Blaine's tricks and techniques

woj 02-24-2006 12:02 AM

excellent thread, one of the best this in a while :thumbsup

BoyAlley 02-24-2006 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by woj
excellent thread, one of the best this in a while :thumbsup

woj your post bot makes me the horny. when are all your sig going to belong to www.AlleyBucks.com and www.GayMainStreet.com?

woj 02-24-2006 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley
woj your post bot makes me the horny. when are all your sig going to belong to www.AlleyBucks.com and www.GayMainStreet.com?

icq: 33375924, I'm sure we can work something out...

Scott McD 02-24-2006 02:53 AM

How does Copperfield do the flying in the air thing on stage ??

BusterBunny 02-24-2006 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD
How does Copperfield do the flying in the air thing on stage ??

lots of taco bell

PussyTeenies 02-24-2006 03:18 AM

bump .. nice reads

Spider Ninja 02-24-2006 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BusterBunny

:thumbsup

SilentKnight 02-24-2006 08:27 AM

How did Houdini escape the infamous Russian prison truck?

BoyAlley 02-24-2006 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD
How does Copperfield do the flying in the air thing on stage ??

Perhaps THE best stage illusion ever created. I remember the first time I saw him perform it. The illusion is all about proving to the audience that he's not using wires, when in reality that's exactly what he's doing.

The wavy blue curtain in the background that's constantly moving is an OLD technique to "break up" the wires so that they can't be seen. If the curtain behind him wasn't moving, the wires would be VERY visible.

The wires aren't straight up and down during most of the illusion, but rather are a giant V going from 1 end of the stage to the other, with the performer himself being the bottom point.

This allows for the double hoops to be rolled over top of him (which is what's actually happening), while the wires remain off to the sides. When he enters the plexiglass container the wires are again in V formation out of the top sides, and he's basically rotating himself on his center axis.

He's actually patented the technology that he had developed to accomplish the illusion, and you can read about the actual harness and wire configuration, along with seeing diagrams of the device here:

http://64.132.7.41/pcgi-bin/patents/...he/5354238.pdf

Dwreck 02-24-2006 01:17 PM

This is going to be my favorite thread ever! Wow the shit I learn about people!

I going to read this over and over! I love magic!

Nembrionic 02-24-2006 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by volante


Fucking spyware alert!

Nembrionic 02-24-2006 01:26 PM

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bastardsquad 02-24-2006 01:28 PM

this is a pretty awesome thread...really informative...:thumbsup

Spider Ninja 02-24-2006 02:37 PM

I agree...fun reading this stuff :thumbsup

Scott McD 02-24-2006 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley
Perhaps THE best stage illusion ever created. I remember the first time I saw him perform it. The illusion is all about proving to the audience that he's not using wires, when in reality that's exactly what he's doing.

The wavy blue curtain in the background that's constantly moving is an OLD technique to "break up" the wires so that they can't be seen. If the curtain behind him wasn't moving, the wires would be VERY visible.

The wires aren't straight up and down during most of the illusion, but rather are a giant V going from 1 end of the stage to the other, with the performer himself being the bottom point.

This allows for the double hoops to be rolled over top of him (which is what's actually happening), while the wires remain off to the sides. When he enters the plexiglass container the wires are again in V formation out of the top sides, and he's basically rotating himself on his center axis.

He's actually patented the technology that he had developed to accomplish the illusion, and you can read about the actual harness and wire configuration, along with seeing diagrams of the device here:

http://64.132.7.41/pcgi-bin/patents/...he/5354238.pdf

So i take it the bitch he 'selected' from the audience was in on it aswell then ??

She must have seen the wires...

BoyAlley 02-24-2006 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD
So i take it the bitch he 'selected' from the audience was in on it aswell then ??

She must have seen the wires...

Yes, most of the assistance that he brings on stage in all of his shows are stooges, whether the tricks requires that they be or not.

People are unpredictable, so it's not worth having that uncertainty when you can just use a stooge and no one's the wiser.

Often times his people will call up the local S.A.M. or I.B.M. chapter for where he's performing, and get local magicians or their wives to be stooges, so that it's not the same people being used over and over again.

I hear the non disclosure contract that they're made to sign is several dozen pages long.

Dollarmansteve 02-24-2006 03:00 PM

Ok, there's this one video ive seen.. its a magician in a restaurant in Japan.. and he does a bunch of tricks with coins... the last one he does the coin ends up inside the glass table.. here's the video

Pipecrew 02-24-2006 03:05 PM

What is a Thumbtip used for?


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