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sickkittens · 02-21-2006, 06:56 PM

50 stolen posts

HairToStay · 02-21-2006, 07:15 PM

Chase, how did you feel seeing all your content there, knowing you didn't make a cent from it, and knowing other webmasters were earning money by promoting YOUR content while you made absolutely nothing?

jonesy · 02-21-2006, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by chase

But the fact is, they are within the law, :

no guba is not within the law

they are breaking copyright laws no matter what bullshit they say or any other ill-informed asshole blabbers on this board.

- unless guba has permission from or have licensing agreements with the producers of videos/pics/music listed on their site, they are breaking many laws.

why do you think they remove files when asked?

because they didnt have agreements- permissions - licensing to have them on their site in the first place.

seeric · 02-21-2006, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk

you're fucking awesome man!!!!!

seeric · 02-21-2006, 07:51 PM

BTW, everything i have been saying since the skin went up, came down and to current is true. they think that all of you are going to forget and attempt to re-run the skin in march. me thinky wrong.

Scootermuze · 02-21-2006, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

Gary, Guba made the mistake this week - they exposed themselves to the people they steal from.
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I find it a bit odd that there are soooo many threads about this now...

Guba has been brought up in the past in a thread or two, and a few comments about them stealing content... then the threads went by the typical wayside..

Now all of a sudden because they skinned the board they are some wretched evil players in the industry..

Don't know why people didn't rise up in the past... It was Guba then just as it is Guba now.. Doing the same things then as they are doing now..

Why all of the hooplah now over it has be a bit confused...

chase · 02-21-2006, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HairToStay

Chase, how did you feel seeing all your content there, knowing you didn't make a cent from it, and knowing other webmasters were earning money by promoting YOUR content while you made absolutely nothing?

I was shocked, really. I'm sooo small time that I didn't expect to be affected.

But it's not the first time I've come across this. I've had my content taken and put on paysites, Yahoo groups, eBay auctions, etc. before..I belong to a board of BBW amateurs and it's probably the hottest topic there-we all keep our eyes open for each others' content on paysites, Yahoo groups, eBay auctions, etc. And when we find unauthorized use, we take action. No one does it for us...the hosting companies don't police for our content..Yahoo doesn't do it..eBay doesn't do it, so it's up to us. When we find it, we take action to get it removed, and I guess I just see this as the same thing. I found it, I took action, and it was removed.

But the fact remains that while my content is not on Guba anymore, it is still on the newsgroups, and I think that is the problem that should be tackled. If I protect my content at the root-on my site-then Guba having my content won't be a problem; neither will forums having it, or Yahoo groups, or eBay auctions, or paysites, or anyone else that I don't authorize use to.

I don't see Guba as the problem. I see the problem being my own ignorance and inaction with regard to protecting and controlling my own content. Now I've identified the problem, and I am going to solve it the best I can. I made my post based on my own experience with this situation, and I don't expect anyone else to see things the way I do. I just wanted to put my two cents and my own experiences in the pot since so many others were. It is clear I am very much in the minority, and that's fine. I respect the opinions that vary from my own..I understand the frustration. I choose to change the things I can, and make the things I can't change work for me. Maybe others take a different path to solving the problem. That's up to them. All I can do is what makes sense to me, and what I think is best for me and my business, and that's what I did and am doing.

With regard to my statement of them being within the law..if they are not, then why do folks keep talking about loopholes being the reason they are allowed to operate as they do? I made my statement based on the fact that no one has been able to cease their operations. Perhaps it's an incorrect conclusion to draw, but that is why I made that deduction.

RawAlex · 02-21-2006, 08:34 PM

Chase, it doesn't matter how much you "protect" your content on your site, one member copies your entire site, dumps it on the newsgroups,and you are back in the same point.

Alex

chadglni · 02-21-2006, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

See if everyone can understand this..

Newsgroups are legal, Guba is legal. Anyone wants to take them to court will lose. Guba is one of 1000+ newsgroup feed sites, all legal in the United States as long as they follow a few guidelines.

Hell, they said they would filter your content if you asked.

If you want to waste your money and sue Guba, I can provide you a list of 1000+ other domains that steal your content daily too.

One more thing to note, newsgroup feeds are pretty common in paysites. Funny that I saw someone bitching in another post about Guba yet I know for a fact they have news services within their own member areas.

This isn't drama anymore, it's gay. Move on.

This guba shit has been the funniest thing to me in a long time. Not only do most of the posters I usually agree with side on teh bitching side of the fence, there have been several that I have argued with on other points take my side on this. Pure entertainment and I agree with this post 100%.

chase · 02-21-2006, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

Chase, it doesn't matter how much you "protect" your content on your site, one member copies your entire site, dumps it on the newsgroups,and you are back in the same point.

Alex

So DRM wouldn't keep my images from being used elsewhere?

I am aware that is possible without DRM, and that is why I am going to be watching the newsgroups, and I'm going to be active in them myself, and post my own samples, and let folks know that if they report any pics posted that I didn't post, I will reward them. Is it a foolproof approach? Hell no, of course not. But it's better then bitching on GFY, but doing nothing, isn't it?

It's all in the approach. I had a major life crisis over the last year, and a lot of changes. I learned that I can only control ME, and it's changed my approach to life from the focus being on what others do, to what I do. I can't change UseNet from allowing my content to be posted. I can't change the people who join and take all my content. What I CAN do is what I've detailed above, and that is what I will do.

chadglni · 02-21-2006, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jayeff

I really don't think you do.

For whatever reason and however you did it, you rationalized the need to check and contact a commercial site before its operators would remove links to content which they have to know is copyrighted. That they do not host the content itself is in this context irrelevant: they base their entire business on easing access to content which you and others paid for, and compete with you not only for sales but also for affiliates.

Just because the law may not have caught up with technology and just because it likely isn't worthwhile chasing individuals who pass your content around, should not make for complacency towards those who build their businesses this way. And it doesn't matter whether someone is a sponsor, a content producer, or an affiliate, the nature of this business is such that most of us will always make our money promoting legitimate content. As such, we are damaged by the likes of Guba and even if we cannot stop their activities, it is short-sighted in the extreme to support them or excuse them in any way.

You act like their sitting in the GUBA offices with 54 videos and 200 pics on a server. There are fucking millions and to think any person, company, corporation, country could regulate out all of the copyrighted shit you are crazy.

jayeff · 02-21-2006, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chadglni

You act like their sitting in the GUBA offices with 54 videos and 200 pics on a server. There are fucking millions and to think any person, company, corporation, country could regulate out all of the copyrighted shit you are crazy.

And you obviously have never heard of due diligence...

HairToStay · 02-22-2006, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by chase

I was shocked, really. I'm sooo small time that I didn't expect to be affected.

But it's not the first time I've come across this. I've had my content taken and put on paysites, Yahoo groups, eBay auctions, etc. before...

When it's in a Yahoo group, is there an affiliate program where scummy, skanky webmasters are earning a whopping seven bucks for each signup and rebills?

When being sold on eBay, is there an affiliate program where scummy, skanky webmasters are earning a whopping seven bucks for each signup and rebills?

How much money did you lose, Chase, because folks like GUBA allow webmasters to use YOUR content to promote THEIR site?

02-21-2006, 06:56 PM	#51
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02-21-2006, 07:51 PM	#55
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	BTW, everything i have been saying since the skin went up, came down and to current is true. they think that all of you are going to forget and attempt to re-run the skin in march. me thinky wrong.

02-21-2006, 08:34 PM	#58
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Chase, it doesn't matter how much you "protect" your content on your site, one member copies your entire site, dumps it on the newsgroups,and you are back in the same point. Alex